Spinning wheels
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Reading the OP again it appears that when the Motor caravan first pitched the ground was ok? but deteriated when the weather changed,and as Black Knowl has just been through a complete rebuild there is every possibility that the ground conditions in that area were an unknown quantity
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A site we stopped on in North Wales a few years ago, made the MH's park on the road on a loop of the site where they did not obstruct anyone. Cables could still reach EHU's and nobody sank. The grass was so wet it would hardly support a car. Clearly this does require some advanced planning and a suitable area. However, a lot of sites have suitable loops, or dead ends.
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Does that describle everywhere in Kent though?
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Everybody is responsible for their own motorhome.
Never take a vehicle on to land that you cannot safely drive off again.
Why expect the Warden or someone else on site to extricate a vehicle due to somebody's lack of common sense.
If a grass pitch is soft and wet it's a no no.--- Find another pitch, preferable with hard standing.
K
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Good sense K, I've towed many from soft verges & even in ditches around our Village as they've spun off in the Winter. Once they're fully bogged down from soft ground/wheel spin it becomes a 'lift the front end winch' job. We all must accept responsibility for our actions. As far as duty of care is concerned it stops at the customers negligent/stupid actions. If I was in that position I'd not accept any help from anyone other than a fully trained professional. Well intentioned help has caused a lot of accidents & damage.
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I have to disagree. The site was full, there were only two other pitches in the grassed area - in fact they looked even worse as you could literally see the water spraying up whilst a man walked his dog from his van across to the tarmac via them,.
So the guy drove on to the pitch that in fairness looked better. it was torrential rain by the way and his wheels got stuck.
If the club take the money and say there is a pitch available is it not reasonable to assume that you can get your vehicle (caravan or M/H) on and off it?
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St Davids was the same last week. Grass only pitches. We had booked, turned up and told to find a pitch. There were problems but what do you do. You have booked and paid for to your holiday, pack up and go home? Fit for purpose again come to mind and the club is surely liable on taking my fee to provide a suitable pitch.
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I agree Kdee69, if you book a pitch then that pitch should be suitable for your outfit. If the only pitch available is unsuitable then the CAMC should at least assist you to get off. It is in their interest to have the least damage to the pitch otherwise it may be out of action for some time.
If the wardens are aware of the ground conditions, and they should be, and they know a MH is due then a HS pitch should be saved. Not so different to saving a disabled pitch in the sense that folk don't have a choice of that pitch. Controversial I know and it may upset a few of folk but it makes sense and would avoid having a pitch out of action for some time and maybe having to ring someone up and cancel their holiday. It's called managing the pitches available and the suitability of those pitches to the outfits due . It's not about favouring any particular group, just common sense at that particular time when the weather is not playing ball and not something that is applied all the time.2 -
If ground conditions are such that wardens would be asked to reserve HS for motorhomes then I'd prefer that they rang me to cancel my holiday. It'd save me wasting my time and money turning up to pay through the nose for a vile grass pitch
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On a Club site I was on recently, mostly grass pitches, the towing vehicle would have been on the perimeter road when hooked up so would have had no problem towing off. A motorhome would have got stuck. It is a question of common sense and I have no problem with the warden using it.
peedee
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I would have cancelled and gone to the next nearest site that would offer me hardstanding. I moved on once when I was refused a grass pitch on a Club site but I didn't have a booking so it did not matter. A commercial site 6 miles further on got my money. Better than getting stuck and having to face a further 50 mile drive to the next Club site. I have also had bookings cancelled before I have left home but then it was just a case of booking somewhere else.
peedee
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It's good site management if the motorhome or car can leave front wheels on a site road in severe weather conditions. We have stayed on sites where this has been done. At a certain point this could be instigated however the only other alternative is to take pitches out of action and keep some back for emergencies. If a site floods many will lose their bookings that's our weather for you and our van lifestyles.
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On a CAMC site last week I got the last HS arriving at about 12:30. I wished I had chosen a grass pitch as the pigeons on the over hanging trees used my van as a toilet. What a mess I had on the roof and all over the SP.
I don't understand why some folk would rather cancel their holiday than take a grass pitch. Nose and face springs to mind. Maybe bird mess is preferable to a grass pitch. So if a grass pitch was the only option left on arrival some folk would turn round and go home!!0
