Senior Moments.
Got back to caravan about 3.45pm. Picked up tablet about 4pm to look at this caravan forum as I had not been on for a week. Was having trouble reading posts and had to keep cranking up magnification.l kept thinkIng that I did not remember a problem when viewing the site on the tablet 6 weeks ago. An hour later as church bells chimed 5pm I realised that I was still wearing distance glasses
Alan
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I use bi-focals now ! Not ideal but better than carrying / wearing two pairs !!
The only trouble is in newsagents like WHSmiths where I cannot read stuff on the top shelf without standing on tiptoe and tilting my head back ! Then again I cannot read the bottom shelf either without getting on my knees and tilting the head back again ! Suppose i could always grab the mags & see if they are what I wanted, but that can be a tad embarrassing at times
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Had a couple of senior moments this week. First when washing up I managed to break a casserole dish (turned out it was OH's favourite) then yesterday I broke a wine glass, it just slipped from my grasp, thankfully we'd had it a while and it was only a cheap one from IKEA.
What am I doing wrong I still can't get out of doing the washing up!
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We had one when we refitted our kitchen a few years ago. We only have a small kitchen so was a difficult decision. Wish we hadn't. Dishes have to be clean before they go in 😲😲. Glad my washing machine starts with dirty clothes and churns them out clean, occasionally a bit of stain treatment required before hand. But dishwasher needs them clean, takes an age to do the task, I then have to allow it to dry or do do with a tea cloth. Doing the dishes takes minutes, job done start to finish and all away. Socialable too as can chat to a helper or enjoy the solitude 😃. Start the next part of your life and no returning to finish off previous job
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Clean?? We just stick in the plates as they are, not with left over food on them of course, then rinse and leave for the next meal, repeat till full.
OH usually puts it on either overnight or in the afternoon. Dishes sit in it to dry till the next meal. A full intensive wash takes 138 minutes.
Would not like to be without the dishwasher.
2 things we miss when away in the caravan.....the dishwasher and the Insinkerator!
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I recon that its one of the most important kitchen aids But you need to be careful! About 30 Years ago the DCOS & I decided to invest in buying only Miele white goods. It was probably one of the best decisions we ever made! The twin oven is now 25 years old, The ceramic hob 8 years old , fitted when the kitchen was re furbished. The washing machine is 18 years old. The dishwasher is the newbie fitted only 12 months ago but it replaced a Miele 17 years old.
BUT five and a half years ago the DCOS decided she wanted a tumble dryer and looking at prices, we decided to save some money and buy a Bosch, because it was about £200 cheaper than the equivalent Miele.
BAD Decision ! Two weeks ago the Bosch died, so I called out the Bosch service engineer at a cost of £95. He told me the main panel had blown and a replacement would cost £395. I said no way, and he left me with a voucher for £50 off a new Bosch. Pretty disgusted, I sent a letter to Bosch complaining about the poor durability of their machines. No reply, despite two phone calls chasing them back! Very poor customer relations!!!
Lesson 1 Back to Miele!
TF
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Hmm. I've had quite the opposite experience and generally will choose Bosch for their quality and reliability. I've had no problems with my Combi Boiler, Washing Machine Tumble Dryer and dishwasher.
I have just replaced my old Areston double oven but opted for Neff for the aesthetics and features.
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I remember when we refurbished our kitchen- no I don't- it was a new kitchen completely when the extension was built.... anyway, we had a dishwasher for the first time and I remember the OH giving me some stick about a waste of money....... try and take the dishwasher out now- I dare you!!!!
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Same here, we have Bosch hob, fridges, freezers, dishwasher and washing machine.
Daughter has several Bosch appliances, includinga Bosch tumble dryer, now 12 years old, we have an AEG, as the vent positions fitted our space better.
Just replaced our 29 year old Miele oven with an AEG, very pleased with i so far. Miele was too expensive this time....and would probably have outlived us!!
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KjeIINN, I guess thats my point. The Miele is if anything over engineered. You said it yourself ,- you replaced your 29 Miele Oven.... 29 years! That's pretty good and the reason that we only buy Miele. Yes they are expensive, but my goodness you don't have to buy them very often!
To pay £95 to find out that my five and a half year old Bosch is Knackered is a joke! Bosch customer service is a similar Joke!
Any Miele outlet would react in horror if a customer called in to say that their machine had died aged five and a half!
No its not good enough. My wife and I are in our 70's now and so the usage of our machines is not high! I take your point that perhaps a Miele might outlive you. But from my point of view there is something quite satisfying about knowing that your essential kitchen aids are not going to fail you whilst still fairly new!
TF
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Miele V Bosch is always an interesting discussion. In recent years we have concentrated on Bosch products, dishwasher, washing machine and fridge freezer. Miele don't make the latter but sell a badged version made by Liebherr if I recall correctly. Many years ago we did have a Miele washing machine but it lasted no longer than the Bosch ones we have had since. It is true that Miele washing/dishwashers are pretty bombproof but is that extra level of construction really required. If you want something built like a tank and have the cash available by all means buy Miele but if you are on a more realistic budget I am happy to suggest Bosch products from my own experience of both brands.
David
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DK, I have respect for your judgement, but what I cannot accept is Bosch's total refusal to respond to my complaint, despite being prompted twice. Not on! I am a realist and never did really expect them to admit any failing but a polite expression of regret would not have gone adrift. Too late now the damage is done!
TF
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TF
Having been in the trade I am not convinced that Miele would have acted any differently on an appliance over 5 years old. The trouble with solid state electronics is that they will either last forever or can go after relatively short service lives. An example is my central heating boiler, the circuit board went after three years and that was 14 years ago. Had you said the bearings had gone then I would have been surprised as they are really of industrial proportions compared with others. The way I look at things is that a Miele washing machine won't clean my clothes any better than a Bosch and if I have to replace that machine after 5/10 years I have not spent as much on a Miele so the replacement Bosch really costs me not a lot. Any electrical appliances that are out of warranty I would be inclined to use a local repair agent as dedicated engineers are always more expensive.
David
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DK, Then sadly we must disagree! I will only accept 1st class engineering. That is what I pay for. On this occasion Bosch failed me, and the very least I will accept is an acceptance of that failure.
Failure to do that must mean that I cannot use them again. A £50 voucher means nothing against customer confidence. I have already ordered a new Miele!
TF
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TF
At the end of the day it is your money and I am sure your new Miele will be excellent and the retailer you buy it from will be equally happy
When we buy a new electrical appliance we always have a look at the Miele's but tend to reach the conclusion that for us the extra is not really worth it for us. But unlike yourself we have not had the same issues fortunately and found over the years Bosch products have provided us with reliability. David
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TF. I will take your £50 voucher off your hands. I'm in the market for a new steam iron.
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If I can find it, your welcome to it, but I think we ditched it once it became clear that Bosch didn't want to even recognise that we had a legitimate beef!
But surely even I would only expect the voucher to apply against a similar item. i.e a tumble dryer!
Will have a look anyway!
TF
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Miele for me now. We bought a Miele washing machine after several Bosch models. It's been brilliant and has already lasted longer than the Bosch models. Very poor customer service from Bosch which, I have to say, is not expected from such a respected company.
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Several Bosch models? In 49 years we have only had a total of 4 washing machines, the 4th one is only 4 years old.
Our first was a Philips, then an Electrolux, next a Blomberg, and now a Bosch.
Since 1972 we have had only 3 tumble dryers, and in the same time 4 dishwashers, seems we have been lucky with our machines!
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The reason we didn't replace our then Miele washing machine, which was about 10/12 years old so not too bad for a washing machine that was well used, with another Miele was that it was going to cost £250 to replace the bearings. When we looked at the prices of the Bosch machines we probably had to add no more than a £100/£150 and that machine lasted as long as the Miele.
As an aside, when the guys were demonstrating the Miele machines they would take a 10p coin from their pockets and try and scratch the enamel which of course they singularly failed to do such was the quality of the finish. They wouldn't have done that with any other machine, even with a Bosch
David
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I think it reasonable to replace appliances if they fail at a certain age, rather than trying to repair, say maybe if they are over 10-12 years old, as things have moved on and machines are now more efficient.
We were initially reluctant to dispose of our 29 year old oven, but the new one, an AEG, heats up much faster, yet uses less electricity, and has a few additional settings, so we are really pleased now that we did.
When our son got married, now 19 years back, we bought them a washing machine....a Bosch.....it is still going strong and has survived 2 children, and never had a thing wrong with it, we are surprised it has lasted so well!
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