Travelling with roll out canopy in awning rail....

flatcoat
flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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edited September 2017 in Caravans #1

could technically be illegal. Another forum suggests they obscure the side marker light and increase the caravan width beyond the manufacturers specification..... Any thoughts? 

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  • Pippah45
    Pippah45 Forum Participant Posts: 2,452
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    edited September 2017 #2

    I have traveled a few miles with mine in situe - it did cause a certain amount of panic when I was being loaded onto a ferry - it was no where near the wall but they got uptight!  I don't think mine obscures the light?  I have wrecked one on a narrow gate though! 

    I hope it's not illegal! 

  • peegeenine
    peegeenine Forum Participant Posts: 548
    edited September 2017 #3

    It would only be illegal if it took the caravan width over 2.55m. The issue with the end outline marker lamp being obscured means it doesn't comply with the lighting regs. I see this all the time with MHs fitted with wind out awnings where the converter is too tight to fit end outline marker lamps at front and rear positions.

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2017 #4

    Mine's fixed to the right up top of the side panel of the caravan and is a permanent fitting, but as overall width of a vehicle is only defined up to a height of 2m and the Fiamma awning is located higher than that, it doesn't affect the overall width as defined by the manufacturer in the Certificate of Conformity.

    The side marker lights are along the bottom edge of the side panel of my caravan, so the awning doesn't obscure them.

  • peegeenine
    peegeenine Forum Participant Posts: 548
    edited September 2017 #5

    I think the OP meant end outline marker lamps as side marker lamps, coloured orange, are mounted lower down. End outline marker lamps show white to the front and red to the rear. The regulations allow for a single lamp to be used on each side and must be mounted as high as possible. There are many many vehicles running around with these lights obscured. As far as I know, nobody has died and no accidents have resulted so no big deal really.

  • Oneputt
    Oneputt Club Member Posts: 9,145 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #6

    Surely had this practice been against the law one of our beloved clubs staff champions would have been on here to tell ussurprisedwink

  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited September 2017 #7

    Unless the awning is permanently fixed to the van i.e. with screws, then surely the legalality of the caravan's dimensions will be maintained. A rolled up canopy, slotted into the awning rail should be interpreted as temporary and therefore legal. Temporary loads on lorries, vans and even cars, which increase the overall dimensions are far from uncommon. That said, I'm sure that they would be required to be safe in terms of not being a danger to other road users.

    Perhaps, the greater hazard is increasing weight well above the van's centre of gravity, combined with some asymmetry of aerodynamics. Not that a caravan, or a motorhome's aerodynamics are particularly sophisticated in the first place.

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2017 #8

    Even if it is permanently attached, so long as it is more than 2m above the ground it doesn't count as part of the overall width. By the way, the exterior mirrors don't count towards overall width, either, even though they are lower.

    I'd challenge anyone to be able to tell the difference in the way the motorhome handles with and without the roll-out awning. I've seen motorhomes with sailing boats on the roof.

  • EalingBob
    EalingBob Forum Participant Posts: 32
    edited September 2017 #9

    I had a roll-out awning on my Bailey. In the end I got rid of it as it was damaging the LED lights above the door. I much prefer conventional awnings as long as you don't put them up when windy!

  • DSB
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    edited September 2017 #10

    We have had rollout awnings on the awning rail, in the past, and it did not obscure any van marker lights.  Our current awning (Thule Omnistor) sits on the roof of the van and does not cause any problems.

    David