Poo bags

Whittakerr
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edited August 2017 in General Chat #1

just watching a report on TV about plans by Manchester Council are thinking of introducing a scheme to fine dog owners who are out with their dog and are not carrying any poo bags to clean up after their pet.

the report said opinion seems to be 50 50 for and against.

whats your thoughts?

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  • Unknown
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    edited August 2017 #2
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  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2017 #3

    Apart from it should be in the pets thread, a good idea.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2017 #4

    If you ain't got bags but you do have a Dog(s) with you then you are not going to pick upfrown. I'd say it's well thought out, fine em. I've never known anyone(friends) who has Dogs but don't carry bags. I have them in coats, pants, vehicle. I'm the norm, not the exception. Yup-fine em big.

  • Pippah45
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    edited August 2017 #5

    I have them everywhere - in the laundry room so they don't get washed bedroom where I have emptied pockets and so it goes on - it would be very unlucky if I got caught without them and neither should any other dog owner.  Can't see it being enforced though with the cuts.  undecided  Although perhaps it would save money on the clear up. 

    It's amazing what they can be used for too!  Very useful at the pumps when gloves have run out!  Definitely the most bizarre use I put them too was helping my niece setting up  a fundraising Barn Dance for Breast Cancer research - my job was counting the sweeties - not for a jar - but for an enormous bra!  If memory serves there were almost 400 sweeties wrapped in pooh bags and stuff in a bra which was worn by my brother in law for people to guess!  Very popular side show it was too.  surprisedlaughingcool

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #6

    We only have a dog part time, much more part time these days too 😢 but most coat pockets have some in. I miss them in trouser pockets as like Pippah they have so many uses especially harvesting nature's bounty but not in the way she's mentioned 😉.

    Wholeheartedly agree anyone with a dog without poo bags ain't gonna pick up 😤. Our parish councils and the city council offer poo bags for free so no excuse about expense.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #7

    We were booking in on a privately owned caravan site once and were asked if we had any dogs. We said we had one. The next question was did we have poo bags and both of us automatically put our hands in our pockets and produced bags.

    The result was that we weren't charged for our dog but would have been if we hadn't had bags as that would have indicated we weren't likely to pick up.

    It's a similar scenario to the proposed fine and I say go for it. Responsible dog owners have nothing to fear.

  • scoutman
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    edited August 2017 #8

    We never go anywhere with our dog without poo bags, which we then dispose of responsibly in dog bins or take home. However, it really annoys me about the numbers of bags left laying in the gutter or hanging in hedges etc. Wise up people, the Poo Fairies don't exist.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2017 #9

    Wasn't someone, the other week, promoting the idea of moving dog poo into the undergrowth so it would rot away naturally rather than use all those bags? It would seem a sensible solution if circumstances allowed but I would imagine it would be against current laws. Having got rid of plastic bags for shopping people seem to be using poo bags in far greater numbers? I am not a dog owner so don't know/appreciate the finer details.

    David

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #10

    In open countryside it is possible to stick it and flick it 😉. Can you imagine this in a town setting where everywhere is concrete? Or on the lixal park where he children play? We only buy biodegradable ones. But I have wondered what happened to all the creatures who's job it is to dispose of the pool- they'll be like the bees 😉 . So having killed them off by starvation or chemicals we have to import youngsters and build up numbers again.

    Really it's all part of being a responsible dog owner.

    How many of us plunge our hand into soil to find cat poo? It's not possible to control where cats go unless you keep a litter tray, but neighbours cats still visit 😉. We used to have cats for years bit once they went we wanted our freedom 😂. These days no cats and too few visits from our part time dog means lots of cat visitors. Such is life 🙄

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2017 #12

    I saw the same report. A stupid idea thought up by someone short of something to do. As [Deleted User User] says, how are you going to enforce it?  

  • redface
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    edited August 2017 #13

    It never ceases to amaze me that some owners pick up the poo, in a bag, tie it off and then hang it on a bush or tree.

    What's that all about?

  • Pippah45
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    edited August 2017 #14

    No idea redface or on the ground which is very unfriendly to the environment.  I occasionally leave mine for the return and pick them up then but the mentality of people who hang them or leave them is unfathomable!

  • Merve
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    edited August 2017 #15

    I see it as good manners- why would you even consider leaving dog poi where others could tread in it or worse! Yes, I agree with the proposal. As has been very eruditely pointed out, if you ain't got bags, you ain't picking up! 

    Thank you to all you responsible dog owners who pick your dogs doo dah up. It allows us non dog owners to enjoy these wonderful animals whereas if the streets were littered with their waste products, we might think differently? 

  • Whittakerr
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    edited September 2017 #16

    i heard a report on radio 4 this morning that Canterbury are bringing in a similar scheme where dog walkers could be fined £80 if they dont have at least 2 poo bags with them.

  • paul56
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    edited September 2017 #17

    I'm sure most dog owners carry the bags. It's really a case of what happens to them afterwards. Many is the time I have seen trees festooned with bags swinging gently in the breeze. Seems some just can't dispose of responsibly!

    However, to be fair it now does seem to be the case that owners do clear up after their dogs these days and I have seen this on many occasions. 

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2017 #18

    I heard that report too. Of course there'd be no need for these new rules/bylaws if there was the willingness and the ability to enforce existing laws. Here in North Wiltshire 10 or so years ago we had a very effective team of wardens who you'd be sure to see 2 or 3 times a week on our regular routes. Of course, they've gone now as a cost cutting exercise.

    The Canterbury plan seems particularly illogical to me - you set out with 3 bags, get stopped and you're OK - use 2 of them and bin them and get stopped half an hour later, you've only got one bag and wham! thank you sir that'll be £80! yell

    Fortunately, as Paul says above, the vast majority do clean up after their dogs these days, certainly far better than when I was a nipper!

  • papgeno
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    edited September 2017 #19

    I don't have a dog but walk my daughter's dogs and I've got bags in the pockets of all my coats and jackets. Whilst I don't condone hanging bags from trees there is a problem with lack of bins to put the used bags in. Our local council provides bags in dispensers attached to posts but don't provide proper bins with the result that all the litter bins are full of poo bags.