Site Fee Increases from 2016 to 2017
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The quoted prices are correct for year 2016 and are the prices I paid. The prices quoted for year 2017 are the prices I paid for 2017 hence the increases are correct as stated. Also, What possible relevance is the date at which the CC set the prices? The indisputable fact is that prices at many sites have increased by over 10% from those experienced by myself and many others in 2016.
I concur with another point made on here which was along the lines that most people are just not interested and will continue to pay these increases. This thread has had only a small number of views and an even smaller number of contributors hence, yes, there appears little interest out there in debating price increases. Seems the CC are also aware of this.
Finally, another contributor essentially stated that if I didn't like it then I could go elsewhere. What a way to try to stop discussion!
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I never even bother to read the prices in their brochure or website and it never never matches the actual price paid in the shop (This applies to Thompson as well) and is always well below them. It does say discount on my booking form and they usually throw in select your seats, in flight meals for free. This year they even gave me priority boarding and up my luggage allowance to 25kg. Now I know they didn't do this as they felt sorry for me and it's the place they wanted me to go to for their own reasons. I then compared it to others, read the reviews, and as we thought it was pretty good we paid. The price was what we were prepared to pay for that level of quality. actually I use TC and Thompsons as we trust their judgement and, so far, haven't let me down.
My point was that it was more than last years price, and I didn't work out what the percentage increase was.
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and that is perfectly fine and I respect your views and choices, there are many like you who think that way and 'go elsewhere', equally there are many who think club sites are worth it. There are no right and wrong answers, at the end of the day it's your (or one's) money to spend how you see fit.
the problems occur when you, me , or 'one' is criticising for making their own mind up, I'm sure you have seen the comments on here before for those that like club sites: 'more money than sense', 'not savy enough to know there are better places' There is no need for that. Club site appeal to some and not to others.
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Surely the answer to the OP's dilemma is simple - if the prices are too high, in your opinion, find a better value alternative. Only if and when folk who object to club prices vote with their wheels will the club take notice. It's no good saying, as others have in the past, "the price is too high but I'll still use the sites" and then come on CTand complain!
And a bit of research (which, frankly, I can't be bothered to do) would almost certainly show that, overall, club price increases are pretty much in line with all others in the UK leisure industry.
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Finally, another contributor essentially stated that if I didn't like it then I could go elsewhere. What a way to try to stop discussion!
Not sure anyone said this did they countax?
I said The good news is that there are plenty of cheaper (and surprisingly) emptier sites out there for those who feel club prices are too expensive
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Still luckily if you don't think it's worth it you are not forced to go to a club site.
But that aside, sorry, what is your alternative outcome? Haggle with the wardens? Get the club to offer you a special rate?If you are not prepared to pay the going rate, for whatever reason, then you are not forced to, and sadly you will have to go elsewhere. You seem to say that it is your right to go to a club site and the price should suit you?
Also why should this statement stop a discussion? You and others could come back with some further suggestions? It only closes the discussion if you can't reply as the 'go elsewhere' is the only answer and you have accepted that?
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even though you are in danger of closing this discussion
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Sorry. You are now making this up as you go along. I made a complaint about price hikes on CC sites. You have then invented "haggling" "special rates" etc, etc, etc, I have never alluded to anything of the sort!
Your posts appear to becoming rather personal as you appear to invent arguments that I have never made! Why not stick to the points I made? Did prices at many sites increase by over 10% between those payable in 2016 and those payable in 2017. The facts confirm this. Any amount of obfuscation cannot camouflage it.
I realise that you will need to have the last say in this hence feel free to do so however I will make no further response to you.
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If it's the club site at Melrose you're going to (my fav site btw) that isn't cheaper than any of the two sites listed in the OP.
In peak it's £8.20 per adult and £11.20 per pitch. You can get it down to £6.10 and £6.80 but you will have to go in November or January. And for all it's high price (according to the OP as this is more expensive) you can't get more than a four day midweek booking in all of September for an awning pitch, and only 5 day midweek for a service pitch, if you want a non awning pitch you can get a midweek 6 days booking right at the end of September.
So I guess the high prices for this year haven't really put people off?
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well please point out where I am making this up or getting personal?
. I didn't invent anything. I merely asked what your alternative was? what is your alternative outcome? Haggle with the wardens? Get the club to offer you a special rate? Notice I was asking you a question which you have decided not to answer.
Yes prices have gone up, what do you want? an agreement? yes they have, is that all you wanted? a yes no answer? most people post on here to have a discussion?
Anyway have a nice day.
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Your OP directly refers to the site directory prices, not to what you paid in 2016. So I think what I posted was valid. If you mean what you paid in 2016, say so, it would avoid confusion.
The prices in the site directory are for the year of publication which was 2015. As the guide is only published every two years these are generally wrong in the second year, which would have been 2016.
Prices certainly went up between 2015 and 2016. Therfore in your OP as read, the 10% is spread over two years from 2015 to 2017.
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Just to try and clarify the point I am trying to make. I checked our booking for Baltic Wharf last year. Don't keep old site directories, but the confirmation emails are saved on my pad.
Now BW is very popular and you would think the club could ask what they like. However, comparing prices 2016/17.
In 2016 for the Balloon festival we paid £31.1 a night and in November £22.90. 2017 prices from the site details would be £32.7 and £24.1 respectively. So an increase for the year of just over 5%.
Although obviously greater than inflation this is a lot less than the figures quoted by the OP, and I feel a more realistic view of the General like for like rises. Yes I know due to changes in peak etc. There will be cases where the same week is substantially more, but that is not the case for the majority of like for like weeks.
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it would be useful to know where the Op got his before figures from in terms of year?
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I think somewhere he says they are the prices he actually paid in 2016 and 2017. So apparently he was on the exact same sites for the exact same weeks in both years. (It's in the post Steve quoted at the top of this page.)
I'm not sure, though, why, knowing those prices and the increases in advance, and obviously feeling aggrieved about it, he still went ahead with the bookings.
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"This thread has had only a small number of views and an even smaller number of contributors hence, yes, there appears little interest out there in debating price increases."
Countax, that is possibly because the subject was done to death over numerous threads many months ago when prices first went up and people are probably sick of the subject by now.
I'm surprised you seem to have missed those threads but that is the reason some folk are surprised you are raising the subject now.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to freedom of choice - choice to pay up and look happy, or choice to pick an alternative.
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Yes I've seen that now, still a slight discrepancy with the OP opening post where he/she says they got them from: looking back through the 2016 Site Directory. As Steve says the site directory used in 2016 would have printed in 2015 and so the prices would have been out of date in 2016, unless of course prices hadn't gone up?
Like you I'm puzzled by why go to a site knowing the price in advance if you feel it has gone up too much, when there are cheaper sites around?
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Better sites for you Fisher.
There are no doubt some cheaper deals. We are staying 5 nights at Clumber Park in September. 2 Adults £23.10
Looking in the area is Orchard Caravan Park. £22 at weekend and £19 in the week. 10 amp EHU which is fine. £2 extra per dog.
They also do 7 nights for the price of 6. Now I have no dog and I could save between £2 and £4 a night. Lets say £3. Would I be interested? No because I would only stay 5 nights and I have no interest in saving £3 a night. And also I don't like the look of the pitches. Narrow hardstands cars in front etc.
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The OP does not quote what weeks, so due to variations for Easter, May BH, or lengthening of summer peak, there could be differences between the same week. However, the OP does say on site now and the OP's figures for LMP are for 2017 peak prices at that site.
I realised I had saved the 2016 prices PDF on iBooks, so I checked peak at LMP for 2016. Theses are pitch £9.90 and adult £7.50, somewhat different to the OP's, which I think are 2015. They actually equate to about 4% for a pitch with two adults. Incidentally the child price increased by 10p or 3.9%.
So I think we should be debating a 5% average rise rather than a 10%.
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We are the same ET.
I just had a mess about with figures and calculated that for our rig from new over six years, and based on 120 nights a year, it costs us £60 a night before the site costs. That is based on a depreciating new van and tow, car plus towing fuel. We would not need the tow car at all, if we did not tow.
So I am not about to get overly concerned about a few pounds either way on site costs. Even if I opted for very basic sites at £15 a night it would only reduce my average night cost from about £86 to £75 a night.
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Good post
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Sorry about the committee,the usual bunch😇
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Countax posted
Why not stick to the points I made? Did prices at many sites increase by over 10% between those payable in 2016 and those payable in 2017. The facts confirm this. Any amount of obfuscation cannot camouflage it.
I dont see that you have established that prices have increased by over 10% at many sites. You have given two examples and LMP is wrong. I have not checked York. Perhaps you would like to confirm where your 2016 prices come from. Is it the 2015/2016 site directory as you say in your OP, or what you actually paid on the day.
You did put on your OP "please feel free to check my numbers". Well I have and they are in error.
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