The More Things Change
'The more things change, the more they stay the same' as the saying goes.
Some say that electricity on site should be metered. Do they really think that will make there stay on site cheaper?
Some say that the CC should bring back deposits as they cannot book the pitches that they want because those pitches are booked up. Do they really believe that will improve availability.
Some want to be able to book hardstanding (including me) the truth though is that I would be 'all right Jack' as I tend to book early. Those who feel unable to book until just before the off would have grass on many sites or go elsewhere.
Some think that the CC should provide servicing for those not using the CC sites. Not sure how that helps the typical member. Not sure how that helps areas of the country where there is a perceived problem of wild camping or helps the standing of the CC in such areas.
I am sure there are other things that some think would be the best thing since sliced bread and progress .............. but would they??
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Some say that electricity on site should be metered. Do they really think that will make there stay on site cheaper?
Well I admit that for some it might. Those that have a motorhome and actually use it to go off site in the day (particularly in Winter time) might well save money by paying for what they use when on site. I do not see that applying to many members during the times that I am site in winter. But yes for some. No idea as to the effects on those who would choose to use gas in preference given that they would still be paying for the bollard whether using electricity or not.
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Some want to be able to book hardstanding (including me) the truth though is that I would be 'all right Jack' as I tend to book early. Those who feel unable to book until just before the off would have grass on many sites or go elsewhere.
We feel the same. However, selfishly, I would like to take it further and convert grass pitches to Hardstanding asap and on any site re-vamp install twice as many service pitches as they seem to be doing.
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Installation of Metered electricity would undoubtedly cause a hike in overall pitch prices so for that reason I would be against it. However on the few occasions I have used metered I felt I was a winner but those occasions were Summertime so no heating needed. If the Club brought in meters I would do well with my Safefill gas though
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Really not bothered as we only use CC sites about twice a year. The vast majority of CL's we use are grass so why would we be bothered with HS/grass pitches on club sites. If they brought in MH service points (where wardens could keep and eye on it) I don't think it would particularly impact on our break. I think the club would need to ask the question, do they want to see ever increasing 'wild camping' in areas like Western Scotland which is detrimental to us all. A lot of continental sites we use have metered electricity so as a self contained van no problem.
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Some will always want to debate the same old subjects (in the wrong section) again and again so we forever go round in circles. It's that time of year I suppose, filling the gap between the season start and the next frenzy day.
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'Just thinking out loud'. . . .Then taking the trouble of posting. . . .Subjects that cause friction. . . .Time & time again. Not really after a debate?
Yeah right ET
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Then you missed the point of my post.
The friction was there just under the surface in your OP, Easy. Have you not realised it's the action of a troll-like poster to keep stirring up contentious issues?
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That was not friction ET-just thinking out loud(2nd post with a smile on my face
) it's how you read it, positive thinking helps
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Maybe not but that's the impression created.
Ask yourself how it looks to someone else to see issues guaranteed to stir up debate raised yet again all in one thread when debate is already ongoing elsewhere.
I'll tell you how it looks - suspicious.
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The debate elsewhere is purely about metered electricity. I had hoped to receive folks honest thoughts TW and not debate necessarily. Cannot say that the Electricity metering was a heated discussion however. The odd accusation perhaps. Maybe there is an odd accusation in this thread too. Not to worry though TW as I can see where you are coming from.
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Since there seem to be very few new posters these days and this is in General Chat it seems unlikely that many are going to suspect ET is trolling.😂
However, in the spirit of the OP. On lower graded sites I would like to see the whole site WiFi switched off at weekends and moved to a hot spot area, such as the information room. This might then mean the WiFi remains usable at busy times. At the moment, certainly off peak, whole site works well all week but often collapses at a weekend. This is of no benifit to anyone, as it is then sometimes unusable until reset.
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+1
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Pitching on grass is a quaint idea from the golden age of caravaning, bit like gas lights, foot pumps, non EHU, and single and real glass windows Now that people want sites open all year hardstandings are the future
It will happen, all of the newer sites have been HS
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A fair number of motorhomers seem to prefer hard standing from what I read. Does the fact that it is not possible to book hard standing put them off I wonder. If hard standing were bookable would that mean that once hard standings were all booked that they would go elsewhere (I know that I might as a caravanner)?
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To answer your last question ET, yes we go elsewhere. There are a number of sites that we would like to use on our way to a ferry but given the distance from us we couldn't arrive at 12.00 to guarantee a H/S so not going to risk getting bogged down the night before a ferry if only grass available.
One day maybe when we tour UK we will get to visit some of these sites/areas but until then or until the club see fit to allow booking of h/s we will continue to 'go elsewhere'
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We still belong to a greater extent to that golden era of touring. We are still able to cope with grass pitches, without EHU, don't book far ahead, don't cancel if it rains, don't head home if it rains, look for an alternative site if one we choose first is booked up. It makes Club Membership far less stressful. In fact hardly using Club Sites at all is the best de stress medicine we know!
Happiness in our household is a field, well mown, a tap, a bin, a waste point, no one else around, some sunshine, an OS map, and our dogs with us. Some nice food and a book for lazy onsite days.....bliss!
(Waffle boards are standard kit if it does rain!)
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like the waffle boards
you missed out any mention of some refreshing drinks?
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Waffle boards?, I thought that was a name for most Forums
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I'm sorry CS but I must protest.
Then I'll remain 'quaint' and be glad to do so. Not only that, I'll continue to be quaint in committing to non EHU with the latest technology ( what was that about being quaint and from the golden age of caravanning?) and I'll enjoy it while you and people like you want to cover the countryside with squares of chippings and concrete, use power from burning fossil fuels and being ripped off by supporting large concerns like Calor and Co. 'Caravan suburbia' has no interest for me and many others. To sit on a square of chippings and stare out at all the other M/Hs and Caravans sitting on their square of chippings and concrete does not meet my criteria of getting away from it all but all to their own Please, if that's the future then count me out and God help us.
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Refreshing drinks! My OH has a whole cupboard devoted to various types of tea. Breakfast, Earl Grey, Redbush, various fruit ones, mint, Chai..........drives me nuts, I don't drink tea! Coffee, decent instant and a nice ground type. All I need. Odd real ale when we find decent independent brewery, OH sometimes has a glass of wine. We are not huge alcohol fans, I can't drink wine, gives me a headache, so I don't!
Agree re the waffle!
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I think folks enjoy their touring in whatever way things suit them really. I know we do, and don't criticise others for not doing the same. We dislike the very organised, sanitised look of most Club Sites and similar offerings, but a lot love them and enjoy what is provided. But we also don't need to fill our 33 year old caravan and 15 year old MH with oodles of green technology to get away into the wilds and have a good time. We have the small solar panel that came with the MH, a £5 plug in iPhone/ipad charger and two small gas bottles. We spend a lot of time away given the opportunity as well, but don't struggle. Ok, we like a hook up if it is really cold in Winter, but we love cottage holidays as well.
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