Toyota refuse to fit my tow bar, is this right?

Sunsis
Sunsis Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited August 2017 in Towcars & Towing #1

Hi Guys,

First post :-)

I bought a new quality tow bar from indespension last week and fitted it to my 2012 Avensis. That car is now being replaced with a 2016 Avensis next week. I was looking to fit the the new tow bar fitted to my 2012 car onto the new 2016 car. I could do the work or Toyota. The tow bar will fit, I have checked with the manufacturer.

I have asked my main Toyota garage if they could fit new Toyota electrics onto the 2016 car after I've fitted the tow bar, or would they rather do the whole job using my tow bar. They have said no to any combination of work, stating it would void the warranty on the 2016 car.

They said the ONLY way to fit a tow bar to my 2016 car and keep the warranty was to fit their £600 full unit.

Is the above correct, or can I infact fit my tow bar, have Toyota fit the electrics and keep my warranty?

Thanks from any towing drivers :-)

Rob.

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  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017 #2

    The reaction of the dealer seems strange if, as you say, the towbar of a 2016 model is identical to that of a 2012 model. One can easily check by looking at the type approval number on the plate that is attached to the towbar. They must be the same.

    Perhaps you should have asked why fitment of the towbar makes the warranty void.

  • Whittakerr
    Whittakerr Club Member Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2017 #3

    Why did you fit a towbar to your car one week and change the car the next week, I’m sure you have your reasons but it seems a bit odd, surely you knew you were changing the car.

  • Milothedog
    Milothedog Forum Participant Posts: 1,433
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    edited August 2017 #4

    I had a sort of similar issue last month. I had the 12n & 12s changed to 13 pin euro type. I wanted to supply the genuine LR parts (that I could buy cheaper) but the Landrover dealer would only do the work (whilst the car was being serviced) if they supplied the kit at £40 more than I could get it for. yell I had to have them do the work to maintain the warranty.....

  • EJB986
    EJB986 Forum Participant Posts: 1,153
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    edited August 2017 #5

    Would any garage fit second hand parts supplied to them by the owner?

    I doubt itwink

  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017 #6

    They obviously wouldn't cover the towbar in any sort of warranty, but it shouldn't jeopardize the warranty on the whole vehicle.

  • Milothedog
    Milothedog Forum Participant Posts: 1,433
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    edited August 2017 #7

    In my case they were new genuine parts that I could get a 15% discount on from another main dealer for being a member of a club. They still wouldn't have it  cry

  • EJB986
    EJB986 Forum Participant Posts: 1,153
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    edited August 2017 #8

    Sadly they are still second hand.....or 'used'.

    Retailers are not obliged to sell anything to anybody at any price....service or product

    It's simply an odd situation that is a real pain to you with the dealer being, not awkward, but not cooperative.

    There are other garages but possibly not franchise dealers?

     

  • Sunsis
    Sunsis Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2017 #9

    Thank you guys for your replies.

    I fitted the new Brink towbar to the car I bought the other week, but the car went bad unexpectedly. I decided to buy a much newer replacement car of exactly the same type. The towbar covers both cars.

    However, I have been told by Toyota UK and several dealerships the 'used' towbar can't be fitted without losing the warranty, even if Toyota put it on!

    I'll have to buy a whole new Genuine Toyota bar set. It's not the end of the world and the dealership I'm buying the new car from is £100 cheaper than my local dealership where it will be serviced :-)

    Thanks.

  • Heethers
    Heethers Forum Participant Posts: 641
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    edited August 2017 #10

    When l purchased a new Santa FE in December, l had the Dealership fit the tow bar and electrics, cost me £200 more than having it done privately. l know for a fact the dealership used the tow bar company that l would have used but with 5 year warranty on SF it was a no brainer as the dealership is now responsible if anything goes wrong and it doesn't invoke the warranty

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited August 2017 #11

    When we purchased our Kia Sportage the dealer arranged for a towbar  and electrics to be fitted by a specialist fitting company ,as they did not have and i suspect most do not, the test equipment to check it all worked

  • Milothedog
    Milothedog Forum Participant Posts: 1,433
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    edited August 2017 #12

    If they do MOT test then they will have the equipment. 13 pin plugs are a testable item for all the lighting functions. Constant live and switched live are not but most of the better quality testers have the function.

    They are not expensive either, under £50 for a VOSA (or whatever they call themselves now)  approved one for testing.

    !2n & 12s are not testable other than for security, i.e. it's not likely to fall off.

    I have a Mayploe one which checks all functions and the lead is long enough  to sit in the car whilst you run through the checks. cost me under £30 IIRC.

    See Here you can get it cheaper if you shop around, but is handy to have when you have a problem and want to quickly identify if it's the car or trailer that is the problem. 

  • rovinmad
    rovinmad Forum Participant Posts: 102
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    edited August 2017 #13

    Yet when I purchased my Santa Fe the salesman advised me to have a special specialist for the towbar as they had had real problems with the one they used.

  • Phishing
    Phishing Forum Participant Posts: 597
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    edited August 2017 #14

    Dealerships are duty bound to fit the parts advised in service bulletins by the manufacturers. This not negotiable.

    Why would they fit your old one when they can charge for a new one.

    When buying a car assuming you need a towbar and its a new/ nearly new car then then negotiate the deal. Once the deal is done then tell the salesman you will not buy unless it comes with a towbar fitted at no extra cost. If he says no then walk out. You will get your towbar. 

    A £500 towbar costs the dealer no more than £200 and an hours labour. They wont lose a sale for sake of the value of a towbar.

    PS if and when the phone you back and offer to split the cost, resist. They now only have to find £100 discount!

    Be bold, be cheeky, never pay for extras.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited August 2017 #15

    That depends on what the car is, how many there are of them & how much you want the specific car .... wink

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2017 #16

    I work for a main dealer and as part of our franchise agreement we aren't allowed to fit any secondhand parts certainly where the vehicle is under manufacturers warranty.

    Where a customer has a vehiclue out of warranty and there is no official replacement part or cost is prohibitive we do look at reconditioned units.  An example of that was recently with some hifi equipment for a Mazda MX-5.

  • alanannej
    alanannej Forum Participant Posts: 79
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    edited August 2017 #17

    In my neck of the woods, few of the dealers seem to fit towbars themselves but take it to a specialist fitter in town. Find out who that is round you and go direct. It should invalidate the standard warranty on the car & the fitter will guarantee their work.