Inconsiderate Dog owners
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I know for sure if the club started to charge £5 a night per dog as suggested in an earlier post I would stop using their locations.
Most stays I do are 5 nights or more so an extra £50 in fees for having my two dogs with me would be unacceptable.
I like to think though that this would never happen and I also feel the issues raised on here are isolated ones. The last site I was at (Fairlight Wood) had at least 20 dogs if not more staying, one couple had four grey hounds. apart from the odd bark there was no problem at all.
The smoke form people lighting BBQ's was more of a nuisance really but just because I didn't have one didn't make feel I had to complain about it.
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I don't think charging for dogs at sites in the UK would make any difference - dog owners would pay up.
My neighbour here in Cornwall is taking two dogs for a first visit to France. So two pet passports plus injections was £400. Tunnel fares for two dogs £72 return. Extra fuel from Cornwall to Folkestone and back because the dogs wouldn't like the Plymouth ferry £80 . Three weeks at French campsites which do charge for dogs in July £80 , and vet inspection charges before they come back, another £80.
Something over £700 for the holiday. Money no object. And I was the one who persuaded him to go !
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This is a subject (charging for dogs) that will go round and round in circles(chasing it's tail), some members will be willing to pay if it was introduced, and those that wont pay
A bit more understanding on both sides would help . Fact ,a dog will bark ,but a dog that constantly barks needs stopping, and even I would find that anoying
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How about a minimum £5 a night charge for kids.
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And some only charge £1.
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The club isn't going to penalise dog owners any time soon as I believe about 70% of members are dog owner. The vast majority of dog owners are responsible people who acknowledge that their neighbours don't want to constantly hear their dogs or loud music. Unfortunately like most walks of life there are some that don't care so if your stuck by them, the answer is go and have a word with the warden about them.
There are a few CL's around that are dog free
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What on earth has that got to do with inconsiderate dog owners or charging for dogs on site.
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It's unfortunate that this "confusion" between dogs and children has cropped up yet again.
Let's stick to the point. As even the most ardent dogs dislikers agree, it's a tiny minority of owners (not dogs themselves!) who are irresponsible enough to let their dogs bark continuously - it's this tiny minority who should be tackled. On a similar thread to this the OP said that they had a word with neighbours whose dog was annoying them by barking repeatedly - they (the neighbours) accepted it, moved the dog inside the van and the problem was solved. Far more productive than coming on a forum after the event moaning about things!
Charging for dogs will do nothing to stop them barking and little to reduce numbers; in fact it's likely to force folk to look elsewhere and' given the number of dog owners in the club, that loss in revenue will force prices up for everyone else.
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I think the figure of 70% is too high, was it not said last year that about 40% of members bring one or more dogs with them?
We have only had about 20 nights on Club sites this year so far, but our impression has been that we have seen slightly fewer dogs than usual, or perhaps they were just quieter and better behaved!
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I've long been of the opinion, M, that charging for dogs is likely to encourage irresponsible behaviour rather than curb it. Can't you just hear it "I'm paying for my dog so why shouldn't he bark / why should I pick up after him / why shouldn't he go in the facility block?". Delete as appropriate.
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according to this leaflet, not the current one I know, the figure was about one third.
I doubt it has doubled since then!
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Thank you for reading my post so carefully and pointing that out, David!
Let me rephrase the second part of that sentence to remove the contradiction -
" in fact, IF it's used to force folk to look elsewhere and, given the number of dog owners in the club, that results in loss in revenue, it will force prices up for everyone else."
I agree with you; it just isn't going to happen!
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The bottom line is that the Club has rules regarding dogs on sites - see page 669 of the Sites Directory and Handbook. Are these rules enforced on sites? Not in my experience and I travel extensively from Club site to Club site (with both Clubs) - 85 nights in my caravan so far this year, and counting (it is a hobby in my retirement). Dog numbers on sites seems to be on the increase; probably because caravanning is one of the few options for holidaying with dogs. I have spoken to the inconsiderate owners of dogs in the past and have received verbal abuse as a result - criticising a dog seems to be worse than criticising a child! I have also spoken to site wardens but nothing seems to be done. My main gripe is the way that the majority, yes majority, of dog owners seem to be oblivious of the disgusting habit of allowing their dog(s) to poo and pee anywhere on sites (poo is cleared up but pee can't be) instead of using the dog walks (see club rules). And yes, it is possible to train a dog to poo and pee where you want it to - it is normally the laziness of the owner that is at fault, not the dog. Charging for dogs is not the answer as mentioned by others - that would only make matters worse. Enforcing Club rules would be a start. Not everyone likes dogs - some people, especially children, are easily frightened by dogs. Their requirements should also be considered. The Club should consider making some sites dog-free. Alternatively, on some of the larger sites, it would be possible to allocate a section of the site as dog-free.
Discuss ...........
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Well, I'd certainly challenge the statement that it's the majority of dog owners who allow this to happen Bongo, unless your hobby extends to counting that as well!
As for dog free sites, it's just not going to happen is it ( unless you also have child-free, TV-free, BBQ-free etc etc sites as well!) Dog free areas I can just about imagine, certainly better than dog-only areas.
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And meanwhile in the real world
I really am getting sick and tired of this Irresponsible dog owners thing
I have yet to see any CC member on a club site not demonstrating responsible behavior and control over their dog/dog/s apart from the odd bark, which believe it not they do for a variety of reasons.
If you have a problem with a particular site report it, leave it in a review but posting it on here quoting rule books is going to achieve nothing.
Just a thought, to those that seem to have issue with this subject, have you ever stopped to think that you may be doing something on site that others don't like ? but have the good grace to just live and let live .
I had 2 clowns recently (one beside me and one opposite) sending smoke signals to each other with their BBQ's whilst I was sitting out side in the sunshine reading. I had the CC rule book in the car but couldn't be bothered to look it up and just let them get on with it
Then there were car's & M/H's returning to their pitches going way to fast across the front of my pitch, some even parking their cars on the wrong side of the caravan or across the front of it. Absolute mayhem. I tell you
But like I said, back in the real world
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it's often been said that what happens on club sites in real life is vastly different to what people think happens on post's here
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