Our recent purchase of a 1997 Peugeot pilote
we have just purchased a pilote, as we are new members I would like to ask if any one owns or as every owned a similar motorhome. I have a few problems with it not starting??? Has any one had a similar problem . Any help would be great
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It may help if you can give more details of the problem, is it Diesel or Petrol engine?.
It could be many things causing the starting problem you have, assuming it turns over it could still be a battery issue, it could be the cold start system is not working properly (glow plugs/ manifold heater assuming it's a Diesel?) not sure what is fitted to your engine?
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Could you perhaps expand the detail on it not starting? Is the battery providing enough power to turn the engine over. When it does start do you get a lot of black smoke? The list of possibilities could be quite long and I would have thought that you need to book it into a Peugeot Commercial garage for them to investigate. I appreciate that motorhomes tend not to do high mileage but a 20 years old I would be surprised if there are not things that need attention.
David
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Hi thanks for coming back to me ,ok it's a Peugeot 2.5turbo diesel , it ran ok till I parked it up a week ago ,then tried to start it turned over good battery ,glow plugs took some time to go out it just turned over and did not fire up battery drained . AA came out checked over and then sprayed easy start in to manifold started great he said it could be air . Tried it after still won't start.
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No record of its service history would be good idea to have a good check over
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By air I assume he means in the fuel, If it runs and drives OK then I would dismiss that for now. How old is the battery? Although a battery seems good when its turning the starter there is heavy drain on it, sometimes the voltage can drop just below what the engine management system needs to see to start fueling the engine. A modern battery tester will give you a good idea on the condition of the battery.
Although Easy start and other such ether based sprays get an engine started sometimes it's not a good idea to keep using it as it can cause more harm than good. I've seen what continued use and putting too much in can do many times.
Get your battery tested by someone who knows what they are doing and replace it if there is any doubt about it's CCA (Cold Cancking Amps) capacity. Also just because the pre heat light is coming on it may be the case that the glow plugs are not working, this can be checked, (A good AA man would do/should do this), by checking for a marked increase in current draw in the Cold start circuit when active, usually done at the relay base with a multi meter.
Let us know how you get on.
Ian
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As a non mechanic it's easy for me to speculate what the cause may be but I think that only a qualified service engineer will get to the bottom of the problem. I once had a Peugeot car that became difficult to start and it was the injectors. Whilst motorhomes tend not to do massive mileage they do tend to sit around for months on end which is not really a good idea. Hope you get it sorted.
David
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"that our real proper service man found" ?
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Not a company that seems to be the norm these days to keep changing things by guess work and ad hoc until the fault gets rectified,then charging for all the the parts and labour even if numerous guess work parts were not needed
Ps He also keeps some of the vehicles at Beaulieu going
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Before I retired a part of my job was hiring and training the company apprentices, I had 25 on books at anyone time on a rolling 3 year Scheme. I took great pride in teaching them that diagnosis was a case of understanding how something worked then comparing that to what you had found. If you didn't know how it worked then you are just winging it. I am old school, having served my apprenticeship with a Rootes dealer, remember them?, Stuff we use to repair or re-kit just gets thrown away now.
My Son, 32, is still amazed when I repair his car and don't buy a whole new part but just the parts that are needed to fix the existing one. Here's one of my other hobbies, I did a complete Nut & bolt restoration on it in 2009. It's 44 years young
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I first got interested in mechanics when i was at senior school and in 1955 our science teacher asked if any one would like to help him with a project after school and myself and 3 others "volunteered?" we were twelve at the time and the project
It was an Austin Seven Ruby,we took it back to a rolling chassis ,and over 3yrs until we left at at 15 in 1958 it was nearly finished,but he died so,we never saw it finishe, do not know what happened to it
never did take up motor engineering (Steam Engines took priority 33yrs on BR)Ps I had a used Rover V8 that i bought from a Rover dealers that had a a problem with overheating, when it was in on one occasion they lent me a V8? stag to go on holiday with towing a caravan
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You got a few years on me
I wasn't born until 59 Although I took early retirement in 2012, I still like to keep my hand in as it were, and up until then was up to date with the technology. I miss the work, but not the job
Yes my Stag is still its original V8, all be it rebuilt, there are few I know that still tow caravans with them but you are very limited to what you can tow because of its 1225kg (I think) limit.
Apologizes to the OP for going off down memory lane a little.
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I have a 99 Peugeot 1.9 and had difficulty starting when I first had it. I changed the glow plugs and found 2 of them to be faulty. They are not much more difficult to change than spark plugs and the set were less than £30. Worth doing before anything else.
When testing I also found that they heat up for about 20 seconds, not just until the light goes out. If you turn the ignition on then listen under the bonnet you will hear when the relay clicks to turn them off. I now wait 20 seconds for them to heat and it always starts a treat.
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Hi after a couple of years using the motorhome which starts better with new glow plugs . I would now like to tow a small car with the motorhome using an A frame , motorhome would be covered third party . Not sure about the smaller car. My car insurance is quoting extra £500 insurance . Has any member been in a similar situation and would like to share any tips .
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