Skoda Kodiaq

H1UBS
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edited April 2017 in Towcars & Towing #1

Interested to hear if anyone is taking delivery of the new Skoda Kodiaq launching this week.

First opinions and how does it rate as a towcar ?

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  • H1UBS
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    edited April 2017 #2
  • tigerfish
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    edited April 2017 #3

    Tried one today. Probably the best new car, capable of towing a reasonable sized caravan that i have tried for a long time. AND it comes in a powerful 180 Petrol engine version.  On paper at least the best Petrol engine for towing purposes in a long time.

    Realistically the Jury is still out, but for a medium/large tugger it seems to be a possibility.  The electrically deployed tow ball is great. Tow ball weight limit of 80 kgs is disappointing but in my opinion, head & shoulders ahead of most alternatives!

    TF

  • Pippah45
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    edited April 2017 #4

    Hmm that might even tempt me away from the Outlander which took me away from Octavias!  

  • catherinef
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    edited April 2017 #5

    80kgs is disapointing considering the Tiguan has a higher figure.

  • xtrailman
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    edited April 2017 #6

    Yes 100kg for the tig, surprised that the Skoda is so low.

  • captainslogg
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    edited April 2017 #7

    Is the towball weight limit the same on the 5 and 7 seat models?

    Check the spec

  • H1UBS
    H1UBS Forum Participant Posts: 37
    edited April 2017 #8

    The factory fit towbar is not available on the SEL and Edition manual diesel 4x4's (150tdi 7 seaters). Oddly they are an option on the DSG autos. Even more odd is that if you select those manual 150tdi engines on the Skoda Configurator the towing weights and gross train weights are blank. Does this mean they don't have type approval for towing at all ? Will have to find one and check the VIN plated weights.

  • xtrailman
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    edited April 2017 #9

    Also at least one model only has a 75kg NW limit, and the 180ps is only available with the 7 seat version.

    So the car is no use to me. frown

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2017 #10

    Think I will stick with Japanese for the next couple of years, then see.....

  • jimd
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    edited April 2017 #11

    I don't intend to change until around this time next year so I'm waiting to see the new Volvo XC60 before I decide

  • H1UBS
    H1UBS Forum Participant Posts: 37
    edited April 2017 #12

    WARNING - Skoda have confirmed in a product bulletin (sourced from Ireland) that due to a technical issue the 150 bhp 4x4 manual 7 seat variant 2017/18 of the Kodiiaq has not received type approval for the fitting of a tow bar at all. It is therefore illegal to fit one.

    If you've ordered one or intend buying one in order to tow .. you can't .. for now anyway.

    Luckily I may have just dodged the bullet that Skoda have shot themselves in the foot with !

  • H1UBS
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    edited April 2017 #13

    The lack of towing ability on some Kodiaq variants is being picked up by some motoring journalists.

    http://www.practicalcaravan.com/blog/42444-the-hottest-new-tow-cars-of-2017#VZ9djv0EYUbHYErD.99

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2017 #14

    Škoda Kodiaq
    Another big SUV, but a considerably more affordable one, the Škoda Kodiaq also has the makings of a very impressive tow car.

    Unlike the Discovery, I've already driven the Kodiaq and wrote a review last year. I've towed with it, too, although reversing a trailer in a hotel car park doesn't qualify me to say how well the Kodiaq will pull a caravan. But the early signs are mostly very positive.

    The 2.0-litre diesel models – in particular the range-topping 187bhp version – have enough muscle for towing duties. And the Kodiaq's controlled and composed ride quality ought to deliver good stability while towing.

    Five- and seven-seat versions of the Škoda Kodiaq will be available, although not with all engine and gearbox combinations. The most powerful models are seven-seat only in the UK.

    Frustratingly, this means reduced towing limits (down from 2500kg to 2000kg) and a lower maximum noseweight (dropping from 100kg to 80kg) for the 187bhp diesel compared with the five-seat version sold in other markets.

    And, oddly, the 2.0 TDI 150PS manual seven-seater isn't homologated for towing at all. At first I thought this must have been an error in the data given to journalists, but Škoda tells me that most customers prefer to tow with the DSG auto.

    Prices start from £21,495, rising to £34,895. Order books are open, with the first cars set to arrive in the UK in April.



  • tigerfish
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    edited April 2017 #15

    OP they are certainly here now, because I was invited in to try one. As I said on another thread, it was quite the best new car I have driven/tried in quite a while.  Big range of standard equipment, lots of space and a very hearty engine (Diesel) in the one I tried. - The 187 version.

    Uniquely in my experience of demonstrator vehicles,  it had a tow bar fitted, a concealed one that sprung out electrically once a button was pressed in the big boot area. sadly not expecting the tow bar to be fitted I didn't have my caravan with me when i tried it but the dealer was very happy to accommodate me at a time in the future.

    They claimed that the Kodiaq is the Car of the year!  Not sure how true that is, but from my experience that did not surprise me one bit.

    As I said the best and least expensive car I have tried in a very long time!

    TF

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2017 #16

    KESSY = Key-less entry and start system

    I didn't know what that meant

  • H1UBS
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    edited May 2017 #17

    The new Kodiaq Spec & Price List confirms that certain variants ( 7 seat manuals ) are not homologated for towing .. i.e. can never have a tow bar fitted. This is unbelievable for a new flagship large SUV..

    Buyer beware .. 

     

  • tigerfish
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    edited May 2017 #18

    Sadly I cannot have one.  The breed is so successful that delivery of the one that I want, the most powerful petrol version in the top spec is now out to 18 weeks, I.e delivery in September with the estimate of my big Diesel at an unacceptable price, I will not consider ordering one!

    Indeed I'm going to stick with my big diesel, - perhaps even a bigger one!  What the hell, if they are going to make it so hard, I might as well enjoy myself!

    TF

  • tigerfish
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    edited May 2017 #19

    OK, Cut to the chase!  If someone in Gov't will tell me with some authority that i can buy a Euro 6 compliant Skoda Kodiaq running on very low emissions adblue I will order one. But it will be my last car, and I want some certainty!

    TF 

  • H1UBS
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    edited May 2017 #20

    It seems that Skoda have made a very sensible move and are now offering a 5 seater option in the higher speced SEL and Edition variants.

    This should mean that max towing limits increased to 2300kg and a 100kg nose weight, on these 5 seaters.

    Now the Kodiaq 2.0 tdi 190bhp 4x4 DSG with 5 seats could be  a very decent tow car.

  • Boff
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    edited May 2017 #21

     

    Re Euro 6 I thought all new cars had to be Euro 6 compliant?  Whether or not they use adblue to achieve this  

    Quite a lot of information and and advice here Skoda forum-kodiaq-owners/

    I've just got a 190 Superb estate.  Not our tow car but fitted with the tow ball. Solo Engine seems powerful enough to keep up with the flow of traffic, Fit and finish seems very good.  The technology contained within it is amazing this car almost drives itself.  First car I have had with Adaptive cruise control, seems a great safety feature. I know that the Kodiak manual doesn't seem to be homolagated for towing, but rational sane person would want to tow with a manual car anyway?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2017 #22

    but (which) rational sane person would want to tow with a manual car anyway?

    or even want to own one innocent

  • CDBro
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    edited July 2017 #23

    I have a Skoda Kodiaq 150ps S E - L and I must say it is a capable tow car better than my Honda CR-V I had previously. Very stable when towing in the wind and solid on the road well done Skoda I say.

  • catherinef
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    edited July 2017 #24

    Peugeot 3008 is 2017 Car of the Year.

    Will be interesting to see what VW do with nose weights when the Tiguan Allspace launches.

  • catherinef
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    edited July 2017 #25

    Having looked at the updated range which now includes top spec 5 seat versions of the 190 it's now a car I can put on our to consider list when the Q3 is up for renewal.

    I'm interested in the Tiguan, especially with the BiTDI engine and I hope they have this engine in the new Allspace I referred to earlier.  

    The new Q3 should also be larger than the current car because of the arrival of the Q2 and I'm hopeful that will be out by the time we need to replace our car.

  • Oneputt
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    edited July 2017 #26

    but (which) rational sane person would want to tow with a manual car anyway?

    or even want to own one 

     

    What you trying to sayyell

     

     

  • xtrailman
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    edited July 2017 #27

    Most of the population.

  • xtrailman
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    edited July 2017 #28

    Now I'm having two single garage doors replaced with one double, I can now look at wider cars than my great CX-5.

    But as the Skoda only has a 80kg NW limit it's not on my list, Tig isn't big enough for me though, but I would be interested in a larger Q3 with the 187 bhp engine.

    what's the NW limit on the Q3?

    I should also mention a new CX-5 is out now that has recently beaten the Kodiaq in a group test, the CX-5 has had a twin turbo engine since launch, and been euro 6 since 2012.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2017 #29

    Loads of autos around these days ..... more & more are seeing the light cool

  • Metheven
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    edited July 2017 #30

    Now that education is a widespread thing in the modern world, it is now realised that the funny manual stick is archaic and now not needed cool although to some its their last hold to manliness innocent

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #31

    I haven't seen a cruise control system yet that can make a manual change down or drop out of overdrive  when going up an incline.

    Most newer HGV's are also now semi autos because of the benefits in fuel saving and engine efficiency that can be made.