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thanks for that info didn't know that about private sites as just thought prices were car+caravan +2 adults +2 kids I may look at them or Cls in the summer months if I want to go away for the odd night and the club sites are full I can book time off from work in June and Sep ,so I skim round peak rates except bank hols ..
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It's well worth a good look at some of the CLs, and small private sites. A lot are ex CL or CS, so have good standards. We won't pay more than £18 average per night if we can help it, only paying more if we really need to be in a particular area, but we make up for it by having some cheaper nights usually. I do appreciate that it is a lot on a single wage, and does seem unfair regarding only having a small outfit. Classic example was a lovely site we use up in Northumberland, loos and showers. For the two of us, it cost £15 per night, but when owner found that I was heading home, and my hubby staying on, she reduced the price down a good bit for him! There are some lovely owners out there, not by any means all about extracting as much cash as possible. We have returned to Site a couple of times now, and she knows we are good customers! UK campsites is very useful!
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Well I suppose the argument is that if kids these days have to take time off for throwing up (and all the other minor ailments, allergies etc that they seem to have these days) together with numerous days off for a bit of snow, wind blowing etc. then I suppose they cannot afford to have even more time off to save their parents a few quid on the holidays.
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I don't think people always realise how lucky most of us are. State funded education, paid from work holidays and lots more. I agree a sense of prospective is needed. My grandparents, we are a family of late starters, all born in the 1890s probably only knew what a holiday was once their children had grown and flown and we're given the opportunity to join them and their family on a week in a static van on the coast. 😉.
No I'm not advocating going back to those days 😲
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Late starters
my father was born in 1898,one of 14, grandad was Gamekeeper to Edward vii at Sandringham,we never went on holiday when i was at school, only went to relations housesPs i was born in Kensington near where father was working
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It was the early 1980's when we first went abroad.....on the cheapest package holiday going.
By then we had bought our first house after years of no holidays and saving like mad, married on the cheap and furnished the house with second hand furniture.
So we didn't moan about not being able to afford a house deposit and didn't rely on the bank of mum and dad. There again, we didn't have a collection of expensive gadgets and a list of exotic foreign holidays under our belt either.
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well strangely enough with both both my wife and I having to survive in a 'teachers salary' as someone put it, we started teaching in September 1983 and we married in 1984 but had bought a house before we were married. we had overseas holiday till the kids were born in 1993 and we certainly didn't have second hand furniture. I guess that teaching isn't such a bad career choice after all
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Aahh but then I went on to do further qualifications (at my own expense,, not taxpayers, of course) and in my own time and, having gained qualifications far higher than a teacher has, things improved considerably.
Everything comes to him who waits.......and puts in the hard graft.
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But then i do not think that any "qualification" that anyone "earns"after they have been through school can beat the qualification that is needed to become a teacher ,we have several friends who are or have been teachers in all types of schools, and although they take a lot of "stick"
about their work periods(holidays) it is because of their dedication to us that we get the incentives to start on our future professions, 1 -
when the children came along we did our sums and that we saw that we could either have one two week package holiday abroad each year in the summer or buy a caravan and go away throughout the year. Despite the high initial outlay for the caravan it would even out after about 7/8 years which it did. I think it was the best choice as we went away through out the whole year.
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thanks very much for your help all the others on here have rather gone off topic so will look out for other sites and of course will take my dogs along xx
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If you are looking at September for example worth looking at the likes of Haven sites, I stayed on one last September on a hardstanding pitch with own water and drainage and paid £9 per night, grass pitches were even cheaper. Touring pitches were well away from the main facilities so nice and quiet and good value for money.
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Unusually I am totally opposed to the views expressed by IanH and much closer to those of JVB66 on this one.
Like JVB66 when my children were younger i was in a similar employment to him so each year I always took as annual leave the two weeks immediately after the August bank holiday week.
So as a dreadful parent each of my three children missed at least the first week of the Autumn term. Clearly almost fatally challenging their Education!
Today my son is a Squadron leader (Aircrew) in the RAF, My eldest Daughter is a Bank manager with one of our main banks, and my youngest daughter has her own very successful business.
I am very sorry that my dreadful parenting has caused such problems to my family, but still believe that if children receive the correct loving care, and the right amount of challenging encouragement, such nanny state restrictions can only hold them back!
TF
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We were chatting about this the other day and one lady said how she missed school the day that they started doing long division - she said that it traumatised her and it took her ages to catch up and she always felt that she had missed out.
As kids, we were never taken away from school for holidays. But I do remember vividly watching those who did miss periods and then went through the motions of frantically 'copying up' someone else's notes and I'm sure that neither they nor anyone else seriously thought that they were learning anything from that.
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I see what you mean but I was talking about a package holiday where usually the first kid was free, the second 30% or something like that and the food laid on. We did look at taking our van over the water but it would have added to the cost in terms of petrol and ferries. But my main niggle wasn't the driving (I was driving a moped and car in Italy when my father worked there in my late teens) as the amount of time travelling to get some decent sunshine. Either driving down from up here to the ferry down south or Newcastle/Hull to Amsterdam, either was a full day till you hit foreign soil. Then a further day travelling over there. I saw that as not holiday time if you know what I mean and I'd rather spend that time actually on holiday. We could do it now but anything overseas and we like to fly and start the holiday 'time' as quickly as possible. I know it may seem strange to those like you who do these great journeys?
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Yes, the trip is the holiday as far as we are concerned, so we are on holiday the moment we leave the house. Always plenty to see, we rarely have a destination in mind, though usually a "furthest point", after reaching that we return a different way.
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Don't get me wrong I enjoy the trip to the site, just anything longer than one day in a car for me is just too much wasted time, Each to their own
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School trips, apparently schools can't discriminate against the children of parents who are 'unable' to pay for these so maybe the same should be applied to those who can't afford those family holidays in term time! Maybe schools, or the rest of us, should pay for the holidays of these children. At least all children would then be on a level playing field of 'educational' experiences!
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It's a pity that the "Supreme Court" does'nt adjudicate on the "A" frame conundrum !! !!
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Perhaps every time the school head (
) agrees to giving kids time off from their important lessons, then a member of the teaching staff should be allocated to spend school holiday time teaching the child what he / she missed?Should sharpen the concentration when considering time off.......
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A very good idea Ian, I expect that most staff would welcome the extra pocket money (well £175 per day) provided by coming in during the children's holidays. Or retired teachers having to subsist on their fraction of a wage (as you once put it about retired folk) could pick up some money and spend it on club sites when the kids are back at school. I mean you do realise that teachers are only contractually have to be in schools for 195 days per year don't you? They don't get paid holidays (their pay for 195 is just paid in 12 instalments) or indeed have any mention of holidays in their contracts. So If you want them to come on day 196 you'll have to pay them. But where would this money come from?
Oh and the term is Headteacher.
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