No longer welcomed

Fisherman
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edited March 2017 in Club Membership #1

I consider myself a Campervanner, so do I no longer fit in with the "better" club. Prior to rebranding the differences never crossed my mind.

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #2

    You would be welcome at the Detling (Kent) Caravan and Campervan Show, no mention of Motor caravanswink

  • ABM
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    edited March 2017 #3

    As  Popeye  used  to  say  :--  I  am  what  I  am,  and  that's  all  that  I  am  --  wink 

    I'm  of  the  old  school  -  call  me  anything  you  like,  just  don't  call  me  late  for  meals innocent !!

    As  long  as  you  keep  paying  your  'subs'  nobody  really  cares  !!

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #5

    As the majority on here and Face thingy also agree,  but the Marketing dept have to  try to justify their large budget some how , even though as has been shown with the new "company"and now the latest "news" of regional versions of the magazine ,they are so out of touch with the membership and ethos of the clubyell

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited March 2017 #6

    what I would like to see is will they change their insurance to cover all vehicles they wont insure me as I commute in my camper as I can;t afford to run 2 vehicles so I not get any member benefits !!!

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2017 #7

    Quite funny really. The  April mag refers to "club awards" pages 94 ---.The text refers to Campervans but the tea drinkers in their wisdom alienated that large proportion in the new club Title. No joined up thinking only a rush to waste our monies.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2017 #8

    I suspect "tenters" (whether on wheels or pack away) have better cause to feel alienated. As the original caravan in the desert used nothing other than tents this lust towards wheels and engines does seem rather inappropriate.

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2017 #9

    I thought it was the other club who had tent members

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #10

    If the cc want to attract more younger families they are going to have to do more to get tents as that is where the adventurers are going , as it is much more finacially attractive , as the increasing membership of the ccc proves

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #11

    Not sure that tenters have to be CC members? 

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2017 #12

    Many sites take non-members, both in CC and C&CC. There is growing provision for tests in CC. Personally I can't see why not every site as a tent is just an awning without a caravan after all!

  • Rayrowe35
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    edited March 2017 #13

    Vitually all enterprises are run by the executive for the executive. Customers, shareholders, members, clients etc are just there to provide income.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #14

    A bit of a problem on non facility sites embarassed

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2017 #15

    Going off topic again. Its the new signage this is about with  discrimination against  Campervaners,

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #16

    When we first joined the CC my family first joined CC we had a trailer tent with no loo on board. We did have a portable loo and a toilet tent though. The toilet tent could also be set up within the 'dance hall' sized awning if we required. OK awning was not the size of a dance hall but seemed vast

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #17

    What about the trailer tenters?? 

  • InaD
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    edited March 2017 #18

    Motorhome is just a different word for campervan, IMHO.  On CT one is either a caravanner or motorhomer on one's profile.  Perhaps that's where the new name came from?

    I couldn't care less what the club is called, but do consider the expenditure the name change necessitated a waste of money, which could have been put to better use.  Again, IMHO.

  • N1805
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    edited March 2017 #19

    I guess anyone, whatever outfit, can use sites where suitable space/provision is made for them.  Perhaps we will see more tents on more club sites.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2017 #20

    Fisherman

    As I am sure you know full well your motorhome is always welcome on any Club site. Just because you chose to call it by one name and the Club uses the more generic term for that type of vehicle is neither here nor there you are still free to make the same use of the Club as you were before the name change. Using your logic you were less welcome before the name change as it only had the word caravan in the name?

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2017 #21

    Not really. You need to have a recognised unit/conversion with dedicated sleeping arrangements, storage etc. The club will not allow sleeping in unconverted vehicles even if fitted with canvas extensions and tents are not permitted on all sites.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #22

    As in motor caravan since 1962 also as per the chairman stated on 21st feb and written on all v5scool

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2017 #23

    As you persist in telling us at every opportunity. However the powers that be decided they would call it the Caravan and Motorhome Club. I somehow doubt that is going to change anytime soon so I think we should all do our best to try and get used to it?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #24

    I think most have realised that David. I like being a CC member

  • JD6620
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    edited March 2017 #25

    The powers that be can call it what they like.  It will always be the Caravan Club to me, and I'm a motorhomer!!

  • Helen Aaron
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    edited March 2017 #26

    Hi all

    I'm jumping into the lion's den here but I get personally upset when I see a discussion titled "no longer welcomed"... we can discuss the various types of vans, their names, merits and internal components but rest assured, The Caravan and Motorhome Club welcome all vehicles with the clear intention of touring as a leisure activity.

    I hope that in time those who oppose the name change will understand there are no greater or lesser welcomes on site - we just want all that are lucky enough to embrace this great hobby to get out there and enjoy their adventures.

    Thanks,

    Helen

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2017 #27

    My comments were really just thinking. All that money spent. Their own magazine differentiates between Caravans, Motorhomes and Campervans yet the powers that be could not see it. What a waste. Yes we are stuck with it and it will be a CC to me.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2017 #28

    Motor caravans have been welcome in the club since 1962 the name on registration document V5  states Motor caravan,,so where was the justification for spending one million pound plus to encompass a Made up "marketing"name,,a motor caravan is a Caravan with a cab instead of a car pulling it

    ps Even The chairman called them motor caravans,

    pps Rant over, sorry as you are probably not to blame 

  • compass362
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    edited March 2017 #29

    Does it really matter , probably not....... its just a name I'm sure every member is more than welcome to continue to book & use the CMC sites just as before .

    No matter what you roll up in ..............😇

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2017 #31

    Perhaps Helen should have written the four key values instead of whoever did write them  

    You see it isn't the name of the club that makes me feel I'm no longer welcomed (or to be accurate - not the target market) it's the four key values.