Early arrivals!

JOHNSON57
JOHNSON57 Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited March 2017 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

We are due to visit the Chatsworth site next sunday but when reading the reviews it looks like late afternoon is the best time to arrive! When you fail to go to a site you have booked you will receive an email and if you continue will have all other bookings cancelled. why cant this apply to early arrivals? get their club number and if they continue to ignore the arrival time then kick them out!!!

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  • Metheven
    Metheven Club Member Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2017 #2

    Only guessing but perhaps the approach lane is not under the Clubs jurisdiction and they have no say in the matter.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2017 #3

    You can enter the approach road any time after 1pm. Mostly in the week it is not to busy just after 1pm, however Sunday seems particularly prone to mass arrivals and you are likely to queue for 20 minutes or so. There was another thread on here about some sites speeding things up by taking your details / card and then you coming back to pay. This in my opinion would work well at Chatsworth. 

    As to folk arriving early, the only answer here would be to deploy a warden to the end of the lane to wave folk past until 1pm. Although as mentioned above the club do not own the lane, so I am not sure they could do more than advise.

    As to the suggested penalty, I can't help thinking that there would be quite a few that would use up there allocation of penalty points for the year.

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,830 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2017 #4

    Hi Johnson57,  best to try and get there early before the rush. 

  • KeefySher
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    edited March 2017 #5

    I struggle to understand why there are queues when everyone knows the arrival times, that there are likely to be queues of 20 minutes at Chatsworth and queues at Rowntree Park. Why spend holiday time, that by its name is supposed to be a switch off and relax time sitting in a queue that is not necessary and may have been created by inconsiderate people arriving early.

    Our holidays start in the days before as we get packed, decide the route and then set off in time to arrive relaxed. 

    I've recounted before the experience at Bladon Chains with the queue jumpers racing past the people parked up in the parking bays in the approach lane, running to check in, running back to the car and driving off with the lady passenger trying to close the door as the car and caravan bounced over the speed hump, just to get a pitch.

    Maybe its the roolz that create these behaviours, instilled over many years, and folk exhibiting them haven't thought of doing something different and enjoy their holiday time. Bizarre.

    We've done Chatsworth in the 'busy' school summer holidays. Arrived at 13:30 after a 200+ mile journey, no queues and only 56% occupation of the pitches in the row we were on, so it can't be lack of availability at peak times, so it can only be poor behaviour 

    Not experienced similar behaviour on commercial sites, nor since junior school dinner time decades ago. Must be a thing peculiar to CC /camc / wotever   

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2017 #6

    I would think that at Bladon Chains it is due to the small number of hard standings.

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2017 #7

    I only see the pitch racing game on club sites Keefy, never on commercial sites or with the other club but they do things differently. It's a mindset 

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2017 #8

    arrive early at Chatsworth??!!! surprised  I wouldn't that's for sure. 

  • JohnM20
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    edited March 2017 #9

     As with KeefySher's comments, "I've recounted before the experience at Bladon Chains with the queue jumpers racing past the people parked up in the parking bays in the approach lane, running to check in, running back to the car and driving off with the lady passenger trying to close the door as the car and caravan bounced over the speed hump, just to get a pitch.",

    I've seen this in France at Chateau Ganspette at Eperleques so it's not just in the UK. There must have been at least 20 outfits, caravans and MHs, queuing up in the site and on the road outside with people running in and out of the site gates to and from reception. whether it got them anywhere I don't know. All of them appeared to be Brits so I guess a ferry had just got in at Dunkirk. Quite frankly it was embarrassing to be British. Because of the queue we just drove over to Calais and got a pitch at Guines with no queues and no problem.

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2017 #10

    We're booked for Chatsworth in April. Because of the well documented Sunday arrival problems, we deliberately decided to arrive midweek so hopefully won't be waiting around too long. Not much fussed over pitch choice to be honest. It's not really the sort of site where we'd spend much time sitting out admiring the views!

  • KeefySher
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    edited March 2017 #11

    There were loads of HS pitches available. The adjacent and 2 on the other side of the road were empty the whole BH weekend we were there.

    We used the grass at the top end as it was the Whit weekend and lovely and dry.

    Funny old lark this caravanning. tongue-out

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2017 #12

    People arriving will not know the ground conditions till they get onto the site, and Bladon does not have good drainage.

    Personally, I would only use a grass pitch, anywhere, if it was the only option, no matter the weather.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2017 #13

    The late departers are an even bigger problem though.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2017 #14

    Actually, at Rowntree I would strongly advise against a arriving early.

    You will usually be directed to drive around the site and back out of the gates.......you are then at the mercy of the one way system untill you find your way back to the site.

    Enjoy! wink

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2017 #15

    Unlike slightly later departures, earlier arrivals are not allowed and are not covered within the rules.

    With regard to those legitimate and sanctioned slightly later departures they will only happen when circumstances allow. They will not cause problems as they are never available on sites with access/ingress issues. On sites that can, they also don't happen if they are significantly busy. 

     

     

  • lesbunny
    lesbunny Forum Participant Posts: 133
    edited March 2017 #16

    Unfortunately there will always be some people who think the rules don't apply to them. When leaving Hillhead, Freshwater East & Tintagel sites very early in the past we have been amazed that caravans have been parked up waiting to get in. I'm afraid there is no easy way to stop this, but agree with the OP that maybe the club should give a 3 strikes & your out warning to offenders.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2017 #17

    The Club will rarely kick anyone out because to do so will lose that person's custom. We know it could make sense but it is a step C&MC are reluctant to take.

    It is for that same reason that suspensions from the forum don't happen as often as they perhaps should as a suspended person cannot make bookings online. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2017 #18

    The sites with a strict arrivals time are usually those that have access problems and in their case it makes sense. On others it does not really matter but if the club though it was a problem the they can follow the Camping in the Forrest route and charge for it.