Horseshoe & Red Flag

MichaelT
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edited February 2017 in Club Membership #1

I know this will likely get closed but here goes.

There has been a lot of ill feeling and negativity about the new logo which I am sure we will all get used to and will see it spells out the C&MC in nice autumnal colours.  I logged onto the sites app today and noticed the app still has the old logo.

So the question is what does a horseshoe and a red pennant have to do with caravanning?

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  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #2

    I think it is just a glitch. On my iphone it is all new logos, but on the iPad the app still shows the old one. I could not really care less what logo is used. As long as the sites continue to provide what we want, I will manage to locate them. I always check the approach on street view anyway, as I dislike surprises and entrances can sneak up unexpectedly whatever the logo. So in answer to the question. I have no idea and does it matter?

  • Bakers2
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    edited February 2017 #3

    Hadn't thought of the new colours being autumnal. Maybe those colours say something about the demographic? Haha. So fails at the ?first? hurdle 😂😂

    Edit Actually I'd like to know how the original igor came about so maybe if this thread is shut down it could be flagged for an answer 😉

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2017 #4

    The original red pennon dates back to 1907.

    As Bob Marley sang.

    If you know your history,
    Then you would know where you coming from,
    Then you wouldn't have to ask me, 

    Not aimed at you Bakers but a comment elsewhere regarding the significance of the red pennon brought the words to mind smile

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited February 2017 #5

    So it dates back to 1907 but what does it actually mean today and its relevance to caravanning/Motorhoming is my point.What has a horseshoe got to do with a caravan nowadays and the red flag was it used by a man in front to keep you at 10mph?  Maybe bring it back to keep speed limits down on site cry

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2017 #6

    Pennants were collected by folks visiting different places for their holidays. A long time ago, it was quite common to see caravans and campervans with such pennants in windows. If you ever go to a Classic car show, and are lucky enough to catch some of the restored caravans and camper vans, then it is very likely that there will be a pennant somewhere. Memorabilia from places visited is quite common, luggage used to be covered in such things, some practical, some just decoration. Not certain, but the horseshoe could be a legacy from those first horse drawn tourers, and signify the "there and back" curve. The rally significance of the flag, is possibly also part of the legacy.

    While I am not that bothered about losing this historical reference, (a member solely for access to CLs) I can empathise with all those who have been members for a very long time, have grown up and respected this "brand" and now see it confined to the archives, especially as for the vast majority it has been a decision out of the blue. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2017 #7

    OK TDA so really old fashioned and dated, bit like a passport stamp we no longer get in most places.... Nice to get as a bit of memorabilia but otherwise irrelevant.  I am sure we can still have pennants with the new logo.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2017 #8

    Let's call it "history". I have no loyalty to Club, just a means to an end for me, but I do have an interest in history of all kinds, particularly social history, and when you look back at the Club's history, you can see a lot of where it is at this particular moment, and to a certain extent, why it does have a bit of an image problem at the moment. But as part of that history, it has done quite a lot to bring touring to the masses, rather than for those who just had enough money.

    One very interesting item I did come across, for any lovers of Church Cove, Lawadanneck in Cornwall, on the Lizard, the Club bought this and gave it to the National Trust as a legacy for the nation. One of my favourite places, so a nod to the Club for that bit of foresight. 

    Expect CC memorabilia to become a tad more collectable possibly, much like the huge trade that classic car marques generate at autojumbles. Some of us have caravans that are little pieces of history, kept going by love and spit and polish!

  • cody
    cody Forum Participant Posts: 123
    edited February 2017 #9

    I'm special because I can't search google

    I guess newbies aren't really that bothered about binning over one hundred years of history, attract new explorers, my a..e.

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2017 #10

    The horseshoe represents the original caravans which were horsedrawn. Maybe that is old fashioned but if you are going to get a new logo it has to have some connection with the organisation it represents. The new one is apparently a combination of CMC but I doubt you will find any members of the public who can work that out, and have any idea what the initials stand for if told what they are, nor see any connection to caravans or motorhomes. It just does not work on any level.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2017 #11
  • cody
    cody Forum Participant Posts: 123
    edited February 2017 #12

    well the next time I take the missus and dog on a journey of discovery the only exploring I'll be doing is through the icy depths of my fridge to discover the beer.