Twin axle manoeuvrability

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  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2017 #62

    4 times now.  losing the will to live !

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2017 #63

    and 4 again.

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2017 #64

    5 this time.......I give up!

  • Stephen Patrick
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    edited February 2017 #65

    So if the Alko lock receivers are only on the near side, then the lock n level is only any use half the time?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2017 #66

    Indeed wink

  • JCB4X4
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    edited February 2017 #67

     

    I am a Lock'n'Level and Twin Axle Van owner and would like to know how you come to that conclusion?

  • richardandros
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    edited February 2017 #68

    That's not quite true.  With regards to a TA van, it is the case that the double air bag is used on the nearside most of the time for the purposes of fitting the wheel lock - and then to raise the van on that side to level it if necessary.  I have to say that this has been the case with me for 99% of the time - i.e. it needs raising on the nearside.  Just luck or whatever but I have only ever had to raise the offside on one occasion.

    If the van does need raising on the offside, then the procedure is to use the combi kit which comprises of the double air bag on the offside and a single airbag used on the nearside to jack the van and facilitate the fitting of the Alko locks which is then deflated completely once the locks have been fitted.

    Yet another cheaper way, is to simply use a plank of wood to raise the offside, using the double air bag on the nearside as normal.

    Either way, the Lock 'n Level is used all of the time for the fitting of the wheel locks, even if it's not actually required for levelling.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited February 2017 #69

    I have twice in my three years on ownership, using only my car, reversed my T/A on to a pitch expecting to then have to make further adjustments to both level it and fit the wheel locks, only to find it to be already level and both N/S wheels aligned to enable immediate wheel lock fitting. I was very pleasantly surprised the first time, absolutely amazed the second, these occurrences have not led me to ever consider not having Lock’n’Level or fitting a T/A Motor Mover, as certainly do not expect be so fortunate that it will ever occur again.    

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2017 #70

    Yes,it does happen, actually more  often than you might think!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2017 #71

    Quite obviously as, if the offside is  lower to start with, it seems pretty pointless lifting the near side up to fit wheel locks .... though I'm  sure there are ways round it with bits of timber. So far in our 8 months of twin axle ownership, I've managed with an Alko lock,  1 Buĺldox Max & 4 bits of leftover decking. 😊

  • JCB4X4
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    edited February 2017 #72

    If I understand your method correctly and wished to adopt it in order to secure my van to something near to standard I do now,  I would need to procure a Bulldog Max, now no longer available as new, since Bulldog agreed to an out of court settlement that required it remove this product as it infringed AL-KO protected technology, plus the Bulldog tool to remove the grub screw that AL-KO fitted to its receivers in order defeat Bulldogs attempt to utilize part AL-KO's  own protected technology. As I have managed for the last 72+ years without any decking I would also need to source 4 bits of leftover decking. 

    All instead of using the pair of Al-KO wheel locks provided with my van at the point of purchase and the Lock’n’Level air bag system.

    I just can’t see myself going to all that trouble.   

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2017 #73

    @ JCB

    I'm still not sure how you level your 'van up side to side if the offside is lower & fit both your Alko locks.

    My 'van came with 2 Alko locks too, but I'm not prepared to maul about jacking my van on a pitch to fit them both. My Bulldog came via the Interweb.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited February 2017 #74

    MM,

    Please see  richardandros post 14/02/2017 08:06 above as I think it explains the procedure to be used very well.

    You may also wish to take a look at www.locknlevel.co.uk where you will find instructions & videos on how to use their products.

    Other methods are available and I have tried them but I have not found any that better suit my purpose.

  • deneoo1
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    edited February 2017 #75

    You should be ok. We don't have gates but still only use the space where the kerb drops. As previously mentioned we too go nose in and there's plenty of room. Our street isn't very wide.