Replating the MTPLM on a new Swift
i have a new Swift on order and as with previous discussions, once having the motor mover fitted etc, the payload is somewhat reduced. I have emailed the dealer asking if it can be replated to a higher MTPLM abut they didn't know and have emailed Swift and waiting for a reply.
Has anyone managed to do this with a Swift? The model I have ordered is comes in all different levels with different weights so I assume that this would be possible as one version of the same model has over 100 KG heavier MPTLM and I have the capacity to tow it
Many thanks in anticipation
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Did it with our van at about £60 but already built.
AFAIK if the van is not yet built you can get it upgraded free. (Surprised dealer does not know)
The increase depends on the axle that is fitted and its maximum capacity. This is given in the specifications.
As well as the sticky plate, you should get an updated CRIS document plus covering letter if it's done after build.
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If the upgrade weight plate is ordered in sufficient time it is FOC, your dealer should know that..... I considered doing it on our new Sprite Quattro last year but with a 256kg payload decided even with a t/a mover there was still plenty left given we are only 2 people.
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Tomorrow we collect our new Swift special edition from White Arches in Rushden. We have ordered it with a weight plate upgrade, from memory I think it's about an extra 35kg.
There was no charge for this, and I recall the dealer had a document from Swift that detailed the various weights. Our caravan is the transverse double bed, with end bathroom. Effectively therefore, it is a 580, with various spec changes. So any similar layout under the various Swift guises would presumably be comparable.
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Pretty much so. The chassis fitted is what determines the amount of upgrade available in that each van is attached to a chassis of varying weight limits dependent on the size of the van . If you order the upgrade the factory put the new plate sticker on at the time of manufacture. I would always ask for the upgrade when buying new but sometimes depending on the D/Licence people have (ie B or B+E) they may want the weight left the same or lower in order to keep at or below the 3500 kgs limit.
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Pagan8c. I will be interested then as I have also ordered the 580 2017 dealer special. The MPTLM is circa 1520 KG but there are other versions weighing 1706 KG on the single axle so will wait to see what the dealer comes back and says. It isn't due to be built until April so fingers crossed it will be free.
what I can't understand is that the same layout is in the twin axle, 40 cm longer with an MPTLM of 1715 KG. Why put on a twin axle?
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Each model of the 580 ie: Challenger ,Conqueror and Elegance have different amounts of equipment and therefore weigh more as you go up from 1 model to the next. My dealer special is based on the Challenger which is the cheapest model and the lightest in basic form and therefore the chassis fitted is only allowed a certain weight allowance in my case 1550kgs. I suspect yours is based on the same Challenger and therefore has the same or similar weight restriction. I assume you requested an upgrade on the weight allowance when you ordered the van . If not you need to contact your dealer and confirm what maximum weight your chassis allows and have it upgraded to that for free whilst it is still under construction and before delivery to the dealers. Another reason for lighter weights is the D/L restriction as I pointed out in my last reply.
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Further to my earlier post about collecting my new Swift 580 dealer special, on collection the dealer informed me that Swift had forgotten to change the weight plate, and would have to post it to me. He stated that this memory loss was not unusual, as vans come off the production line one after another, and that a human has to remember to check the requested order for what is simply a different sticker.
still annoying though.
other than that, new van is great.
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Why don't you just read the 2017 manual and find out for yourself?
With yours being a special you need to look at the model its based on.
Just download and search the MTPLM or simular, all the information is in the manual, including the maximum upgrade.
MTPLM maximum on a SA is determined by the AXLE rating, they usually have a sticker on the axle, so if you don't know how to download the manual just crawl under the caravan.
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I had mine sent on to me when I uprated the Lunar I had last. I just stuck it over the original 1 as it was going to be difficult to get the old one off without leaving a mess. You couldn't see the old one when I put the new one over it. Never had a problem with this.
We also like our new van especially as it has the alde wet CH .
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The caravan has not yet been built so canot check the axle. Tried reading all he literature I can but it gives no detail about upgrading the MPTLM. The dealer didn't know, despite being a very large set up so awaiting a response and hence thought I would ask in here. However, based upon what Ian has said, it appears that even the same base model may have different axles and if so there will be very little available to upgrade it. I will have to wait and see
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You should also have got a new certificate of compliance NCC with your updated weight with your c/vans vin number.not just a new sticker
Ps we in the past, and some friends now have/had dealer specials one problem being is getting parts for them especially if they have "different" soft furnishings ,and they tend not to be "attractive" to other dealers when if looking for PX for the same reasons
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MDD the base model is the Challenger and that only has the same chassis . So if the Special is based on the Challenger it will have the same maximum load weight as all other Challenger Chassis unless Swift have started fitting a stronger chassis to the Challenger for 2017 model. (mine is a 2016 model and as said has a max weight of 1550kgs. The payload is then governed by the difference between the ex works weight and the Max chassis weight . Your special should have a weight max which should be known by the dealer. I assume they have a demo 1 of this model that you can look at and get the plated weight from the plate near the door of the Van if not try asking on the Swift Forum as the guys from the factory may be able to tell you as they build them. Also as I said any weight you can get is always worth doing on the factory order as it is free at this stage whereas if you wait till it is delivered it costs £50 or so to do it.
Which model have you ordered ie waht does the dealer call it and which dealer is it?
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The data is on this link.
Upgrade varies depending on which model your special is based on.
From page5
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Having reviewed the owners manual kindly provided by Xtrailman I am not hopeful but it does suggest that a different axle set up is used on caravans of the same layout but different trim. For example, the Challenger 580 has an upper MTPLM of 1550Kg and the Conqueror 580 has 1700Kg. I understood the only difference was trim and accessories which added to the weight but doesn't indicate whether a different axle is utilised. To add to the puzzlement, my dealer special is a Swift Challender Hi Style supplied by Lowdhams Hudds and the MTPLM is 1529Kg which exceed that of the standard Challenger. It doesn't give an upper MTPLM as is given in the manual that Xtrailman provided
many thanks for the help and suggestions. Guess I just need a definitive from Swift or take he time to sign up to the Swift owners forum
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I see from their info that the 2017 challenger has a lighter max weight chassis fitted so has less payload weight from my 2016 model. You will probably find that 1529 is the max weight so you cannot upgrade any further. Looking at the Swift site the 2017 Challenger is indeed lighter and in fact the Special has another 20 kgs on this so they have obviously allowed a bit more because of the extra equipment fitted as standard. the max allowed payload is the same for the basic Challenger as the Special so it is obviously a specific chssis for dealer specials to allow for the extra equipment levels.
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Update on my last post. I have now heard from the dealer and the maximum upgrade is to 1550 KG so i gain 21KG. As it isn't built they will do it for free but confirmed that the same base model clearly has different maximum loads on the Alko Axle.
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Have done it once with previouse Elddis 60 kg have told Lowdhams to uprate weight on new Swift 100 kg to 2000 MTPLM FOC.We looked at that specked van just not enough space. Allthough the 635 was close.
Steve
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