Touring Scotland

johndailey
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edited January 2017 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Could any body help please? We intend touring Scotland in the Summer. Having been well and truly bitten  by midges on a previous visit on the West coast, is there a problem on the East coast? Also can anybody recommend a cream/spray that is a good repellent?

 

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #2

    We had to leave the site at Bunree due to midges (as they went for my daughter with a vengence. We moved further inland and no problems at all

  • ABM
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    edited January 2017 #3

    Several  sprays/creams  available  to ( hopefully )  repel

    the  awful  West  Highland  Midges  ( other  folks  might

    be  able  to  add to  this  list ) :--

    1 )  Jungle  Formula  ( Deet  based  )

    2 )  Avons  Skin  so  Soft  --  used  by  armed  forces  in  Afghanistan

                                                      (  Honest -- I'm  not  joshing  you  !! )

    3 )  Smidge  That  Midge

     

    Most  are  obtainable  at  pharmacies  and/or  Outdoor

    Equipt  stores  --  some  even  to  be  found  in  the

    very  best  of  Caravan  Club  Wardens  Offices  !!           

     

    As  far  as  the  East    Coast  is  concerned  I've  only  ever 

    been  bitten  on  the  Aberdeen  or  Montrose  side  when  Ive 

    been  trying  for  a  cheap  night  out    innocent   or  should  I  have 

    written  Stung  there  undecided  ??

    They  do  prefer  damp  &  shady  conditions  so  watch  out

    near  water  &  trees  and  bushes  --  sneaky  beasties  they  are  !!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #4

    yes with a good wind and sunny days they won't be out in great numbers. We had a few days of sun and they weren't a bother, then it rained for a few days and they seemed to multiply exponentially. No problem at all (whatever the weather) Culloden site up to Orkney

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2017 #5

    JD, the east coast suffers far less than the west. The extreme north isn't too bad either. 

    We try to stay away from trees and still water and find the coast often has a breeze which keeps the beasties away. Damp conditions aggravate the problem. Corners suffered at Bunree but the North Ledaig site a few miles south fares better because it is more exposed to the elements - no guarantees mind.

    Avon Skin So Soft dry oil spray seems to help - the original blue one. You can buy it online from Avon.

  • johndailey
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    edited January 2017 #6

    Thanks all for the very helpful replies.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2017 #7

    You're welcome, John. We've been many times.

  • clarinetman
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    edited January 2017 #8

    Hi went last summer to Grantown on Spey east side not a midge to be seen lovely site Grantown a nice short walk away Craig's Bar pies to die for, we then drove across to Bunree west coast and midges everywhere, use Avon skin so soft spray and not bitten but they are still annoying blighters.

  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #9

    The best thing to do is cover up if you react badly to midge bites and get a head/face net to avoid them getting into your eyes. One thing about Scotland is the rapid weather changes, you'll probably be midge free in most places at some point. They tend to hatch out in clouds in warm damp weather. The east coast is usually drier so that does help a bit. Don't let midges put you off, no-one would live in Scotland if it was that bad! wink

  • ABM
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    edited January 2017 #10

    Those  head/face  nets  are  like  lightweight  versions 

    of  the  Beekeepers  'veils'  Brue.   but  being  lighter  are  more

    easily  folded  &  stowed  in  a  pocket.  They  are  also

    becoming  more  popular  --  or  perhaps  its  just  that  we

    tourists  are  that  much  more  insistent  on  enjoying  the

    'Outdoor  Life'  and  less  concerned  in  looking  like  a  "P##t"

    --  certainly  didn't  bother  me  when  handling  the  bees !!

     

     

    P.S.  One  thing  I  did  not  say  on  the  earlier  posting  was 

    "Ask  The  Site  Wardens"  what  they  use  where  they  are undecided !!

    There  might  just  be  a  'Local'  repellent  that  works  which  we

    down  'ere  have  not  yet  discovered  wink

     

    P.P.S  Should  you  be  in  the  slightest  degree  affected 

    by  the  midge  bites  might  I  suggest  you  stay well  clear 

    of  the  southwestern  hillock  "The  Merrick"  &  camps  in 

    that  area  ==  the  Midgey  S A S   use  that  area  for  training    !!

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2017 #11

    I have never encountered midges on east side but certainly have on the West. I have noticed Avon Skin so Soft on sale in CC site offices. No idea how effective as I am one of the fortunate few that can be amid a cloud of midges and suffer very little consequence and therefore take no precautions. 

  • katieb
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    edited January 2017 #12

    We spent two months touring Scotland last year.  Went in May up the West coast and June / July across the middle, up the top and down the East.  Right at the end of May terrible midge problem at Kinlochewe in particular - calm, warm and water seem to be their preferred environment from end of May throughout the summer.  No problems up north or down the east though - windier weather probably helped as well.

    My advice if you go to the west is to make your getaway before the third week in May if you want to be on the safe side.

    Its a fantastic country but nowhere covered it all in two months.  Have a great time!

  • Grumblewagon
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    edited January 2017 #13

    I really like the Grantown site, but as for the Craig bar's pies - forget them.    A bit like the 'Emperor's new clothes', people say they're good, so you think they're good so as not to disagree.   IMO, they are mediocrity on a plate with chips.  If you want a proper pie, buy one from Mackinnons of Speyside in Aviemore.

    It's interesting that most visitors go to the West coast that has both midgies and a much higher rainfall than the east.  Still it means that the East is a much more pleasant place to live.

    I only go West early and late in the year, and then never go without 'Skin so soft'.  It's not perfect, but it helps.

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2017 #14

    People go to the West for the Mountains & the views. The east is drier but the hills are a lot lower and not as spectacular, although many of the beaches are good, and there are some very interesting fishing villages hidden away.

  • johndailey
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    edited January 2017 #15

    I notice that Grantown on Spey gets a couple of mentions on this thread. Could anyone give some feedback please?

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2017 #16

    The site there is an affiliated site, but is very good.  Large pitches, quite a few are serviced, good toilet block, nice little town, and a good base for exploring the area.

  • Barking50
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    edited January 2017 #17

    East Coast is much better, do the West Coast before the end of June.

    Avon 'Skin So Soft (original)' definitely works well.

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2017 #18

    If you stick to the East coast of Scotland, there are very few midges. 

     

    Cheers........................K

  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #19

    Grantown on Spey is a small town in an interesting area on the edge of the Cairngorms National Park. It's in area that many visit to see mountains, river valleys and remote walking spots. There are some good RSPB reserves there too, you can visit the osprey centre at nearby Loch Garten. It's also popular as the start of the Speyside Whisky trail and it's possible to drive cross country to Dee side or head north to Inverness and the Moray Firth. An area worth visiting! smile

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2017 #20

    The affiliated site in Grantown is very nice with excellent service pitches. Ours was large enough to fit us on twice. Each has a satellite dish and they will lend you a box, if you don't have your own. Wi Fi is very good and included in the price of the service pitches. I think there is a separate charge if on a standard pitch. The facilities blocks are also excellent. Grantown itself is very pleasant with an excellent butchers, cake shop and Coop within walking distance. A larger Tesco and lots of outdoor shops are available in Aviemore.There is a reasonable bus service from the town. We caught it a few times in various directions, to walk back on the numerous woodland tracks. Good walks are also to be had from the site on the hills behind and in the large Anagach Woods, alongside the Spey.

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2017 #21

    Agree that the West Coast is the worse affected areas, I am ok (think that they bite me and die) but my wife gets ill when she is bitten., Avon skin so soft does work, even on the dog ! Big cloud of midges over her, rubbed some into her coat, they all dispersed ! Happy dog....that smells nice.

    The thought that the SAS use it in Afganastan to keep the Taliban away is re-assuring.   Powerful stuff.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2017 #22

    Photos re a Grantown. Forgot I could now post photos.

    1. Woodland walk close to Grantown
    2. Service pitch on affiliated site. My mums shopping trolley very useful for trucking supplies back from the Coop.
    3. Cairngorms above Aviemore early May
    4. Highland Moo
    5. Bit of geomorphology, Roche Moutonne near Grantown.
  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #23

    That's good Steve, I'll add one too. A view of the Cairngorms from Loch Morlich where Camping in the Forest (C&CC affiliated) have their Glenmore Forest site (we also like Rothiemurchus.) The photo was taken May 31st, so still some snow around.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2017 #24

    It looked a very nice site Brue. We parked across the road  in the visitors centre and had a good look on our walk round the lake. Very good food in the visitors centre as well.

  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #25

    It's a good site, very busy but you have to be prepared for no communications, not even radio, unless you go to the cafe.  It's certainly a great area for outdoor activities but that water is very chilly!

  • johndailey
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    edited January 2017 #26

    Once again. Thanks to you all for replying. A lot of good advice given and thank you for the photo's.

  • Grumblewagon
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    edited January 2017 #27

    Grantown site from footpath above site.

     

  • Brigodoon
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    edited January 2017 #28

    Hi John,

    I come from Aberdeen, I can assure you there are no 'Midgies' on the East Coast.  

    We go to 'Forfar Lochside site' regularly, its one of the best sites I have been on, brilliant for dog walking around the loch (about 45mins - depending on your pace). Easy walk (5min) into the town and also just a 20 minute drive to Arbroath (famous for kippers and all seafood alike).

    Also consider Stonehaven (right on the coast) and Banchory (ideal for visiting Royal Deeside / Balmoral etc).

    Granton on Spey (excellent site) is usually 'midge free' outside the summer months.

    Hope this helps.

    Paul...      

  • IainM1970
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    edited January 2017 #29

    I would add Balbirnie Park at Markinch in Fife to the above suggestions

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2017 #30

    Better still, Huntly Castle AS.

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2017 #31

    Basically the midge problem is the West coast North of the Clyde. You can also get blackflies in the West that bite and Avon Soft Skin is generally regarded as the best but any using GEET should also work.

    Some people report they have had problems in the West South of the Clyde but I have never had a problem.

    The East is generally midge free and there is plenty to see there.