Disgraceful - What sort of person

Oneputt
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just read about a swan in Hay on Wye which has been shot in the head by 21 times.  When they catch the low life let's hope they are severely punished

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  • Impy
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    edited December 2016 #2

    When I hear things like this I realize how much I don't understand some people
    Frown

  • Pliers
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    edited December 2016 #3

    Awful. I don't understand these people either, Impy, and don't really think I want to.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2016 #4

    There's no rhyme or reaon behind any sort of vandalism and especially against creatures of any sort.

  • Jood
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    edited December 2016 #5

    Completely sickening

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #6

    The trouble is that there is absolutely no punishment for any person caught carrying out sickening animal cruelty.

     

  • briantimber
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    edited December 2016 #7

    There is punishment for these heinous acts, though not substantial enoughYell. However in this case, with the swan being property of the Queen,
    the violator, if caught, may be punished more severely.........Lets hope so.....Cool

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #8

    There is punishment for these heinous acts, though not substantial enoughYell. However in this case, with the swan being property of the Queen, the violator, if caught, may be punished more severely.........Lets hope so.....Cool

    Write your comments here...Yes Brian.  The perpetrator will receive 2 gentle smacks on the wrist instead of one. I'm afraid that doesn't act as a deterrent.

     

    Cheers .........K

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2016 #9

    Given the punishments meted out to those who had upset her ancestors, it might prove a salutary deterrent for others. Can't see Queenie going for hanging, drawing and quartering though. Not so sure about PP.

  • MJ730
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    edited December 2016 #10

    I guess it's another brainless idiot with an air gun that thinks it's O.K to go round shooting animals for fun.I'm sure some of my fellow airgun club members would be happy to educate him ( or her) in why it is not what should be done.

    Mike

  • Fozzie
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    edited December 2016 #11

    Local Kent TV news had a report of a farmer who beat two Swans on his farm with his crook.His punishment was a massive £7K fine.

  • ABM
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    edited December 2016 #12

    Nowhere  near  massive  enough,  Fozzie,  as  a  farmer  he  should  know  how  much  we  depend  on  a  healthy  environment,  and  that  means  swans  as  well  as  any  thing  else !

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2016 #13

    In certain communities, swan is consider a delicacy. Probably only had an air rifle to try and kill one, hence the number of shots. Christmas is coming. It is disgraceful, and barbarous, but by no means an isolated incident.

  • rayjsj
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    edited December 2016 #14

    I saw that, and the article about the Farmer with a club, These are exactly the type of actions that the RSPCA was formed to prevent and prosecute,  mindless cruelty for the sake of it. And Farmers are supposed to be Guardians of our Countryside, if their press is to be believed ?  well that one shouldnt have been in charge of a garden, let alone a farm. He clubbed a swan to death an injured another so badly that it had to be put down, simply because ithey landed in his oilseed rape field !  nasty man .  

    Swans are protected by law, as are Badgers by the way, although that doesnt seem to be obeyed by some Farmers.  Wish I needed to only obey the laws i agreed with !!

    And I am not a Townie !  i live in rural Pembrokeshire.

  • Oneputt
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    edited January 2017 #15

    3 Buzzards have been shot in Somerset in the first 4 days of this year, fortunately only one of them has died so far.  This is an area of the country that Hen Harriers were going to be reintroduced as it was thought there was less Raptor persecution than other parts!

  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #16

    Yes Oneputt this is true and thankfully the RSPCA have helped save the remaining two. I expect they have been taken to the RSPCA West Hatch Wildlife Centre.

  • brue
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    edited January 2017 #17

    double post edited

  • Pliers
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    edited January 2017 #18

    Not good is it 😥, and talking hen harriers, they were frequently seen on our local moors until just a few years ago. Not now though......

  • greylag
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    edited January 2017 #19

    On the subject of dead swans, I have just found the third dead swan within a 50 yard stretch of river.  The first one was lying spreadeagled in the reeds, the second one was floating with its head laying back along its body, looking quite serene.  Yesterday there was another looking as though it was trying to get away from the water through the reeds and just expired.  As I was leaving a saw another youngish swan drifting around the area looking as though it was on its way out.  There is nothing to suggest anything other that nature taking its own course, just slightly upsetting to see.  They do provide food for the scavengers during the night.

    The pictured swan stayed there for some days until a high tide swept it away....looks as though it was a peaceful end.

  • Fisherman
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    edited January 2017 #20

    Could be Avian flu outbreak. Have you reported the sightings?

  • greylag
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    edited January 2017 #21

    I never gave that a thought...I have now got the number and will give them a ring tomorrow......that might explain their listless drifting around and sitting amongst the reeds looking as though they couldn't be bothered to swim away.

  • greylag
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    edited January 2017 #22

    Well I rang them and they said they were not interested unless there are 5 dead swans!

    There might 4 by this afternoon...there was dodgy looking swan yesterday PM.

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #23

    This is both sad and rather alarming, why five I ask, three would be more appropriate. Particularly as over the Wash in mid Lincolnshire we have, in the last few weeks, had confirmed outbreaks of avian flu. Not far as the crow flies!

  • ABM
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    edited January 2017 #24

    Just  noted  in  the  January  edition  of  R S P B Magazine

    that,  in  different  parts  of  England,  there  have  been  at 

    least  10  Red  Kite  Shootings  reported.  Big  glorious  birds

    of  hawkish  appearance,  but  despite  that   appearance, 

    are  almost  totally  scavengers.  !!  There  are  times  when  I 

    wish  ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,,

  • greylag
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    edited January 2017 #25

    Well..as I was saying....just got back from river and the fourth dead swan was floating around.  Chatting to a local boatyard owner he said he had also seen a couple of dead swans going out on the tide about 2 miles along the river.  Odd's are they came from my spot.

    I phoned DEFRA again and the man said that someone else had phoned in 10 minutes previous...maybe something might happen, but he didn't ask for exact location....strange.

    One thing I was surprised to see...another swan showing a lot of interest in the dead swan...you can make up your own reasons why.  Pecking and pulling, going away and turning and coming back in a display mode.  I have never seen more than one dead swan in any previous year...something is a foot.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2017 #26

    I live near Burrs Country Park. The other week we were lucky  enough to have 2 swans arrive. Last one of them was shot .... needless  to say it's mate has now gone.

  • N1805
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    edited January 2017 #27

    Local TV report this am yet another barbaric attack on our wild life.  A crossbow bolt in a Swan’s neck in a park in Cheltenham - it’s not too well at the moment. Probably being looked after at the West Hatch Wildlife Rescue Centre.  Unbelievable behaviour.  

     

  • greylag
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    edited January 2017 #28

    Is it a glitch in the system.....when I scan over the subjects on here I only go in if it says that there is a NEW posting.  Once viewed the NEW tag disappears, but not now on my PC.

    Just a waste of time going over posts I've already read.

    Was hoping for some brightness today, but it looks as gloomy as yesterday, have to get out!

  • Fisherman
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    edited January 2017 #29

    Isnt it odd that these terrible things seem to happening in urban areas.- Bury and Cheltenham just here. I always thought it was country yokels that were  to blame for all cruelty

  • Merve
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    edited February 2017 #30

    Inadequate people taking their pleasure in hurting or killing a beautiful bird! Sickening!