Petition - Shooting Wildfowl
Please support the petition to try and stop the shooting of Wildfowl:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/167410
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Sorted OP, over 19,000 signed already. Good one Mucker
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The shooting of endangered wild game birds should stop now.
Furthermore, the use of lead shot needs a total ban right away. Even when this is not directly killing and maiming target animals, this toxic material is sprayed across the countryside littering and killing all manner of wild creatures through ingestion and the poisoning of the environment. This is leading to infertility and, in many cases a slow and painful death for many animals!
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Better to ban all hunting and fishing for sport.
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Whats fishing got to do with it
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Not at all, the key words for me are 'endangered' and 'threatened' species! I don't advocate a total ban at all on shooting.
As far as lead shot is concerned, I do stand by that suggestion of a total ban! Afterall it's illegal to use for us fishermen (except in micro form) and we still manage to continue our hobby. We also don't target endangered species to my knowledge. The vast majority of my catch is returned fighting fit, thanks to the adoption of barbless hooks, the few I do 'take' are always stocked non indigenous species (Rainbow Trout) and then eaten. I'd rather catch and dispatch these myself than buy from the supermarket! Oh, and I am also one of those country folk and since retirement, I do spend a little more time in my armchair!
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Another 'us Country folk' here, not everyone who lives away from Citys hunt/shoot/fish, some of us sit cheek by jowl with the wildlife without needing to kill them.
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Yes, it doesn't 'sit' well does it! However, let's take things one step at a time! Bull fighting, cock fighting and even hare coursing are banned here in England but with regard to the latter it still happens, particularly around Lincolnshire! The thing is that most of these criminals come here from all around Britain to carry out this so called 'sport'!
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Yes, it doesn't 'sit' well does it! However, let's take things one step at a time! Bull fighting, cock fighting and even hare coursing are banned but with regard to the latter it still happens, particularly around Lincolnshire! The thing is that most of these criminals come here from all around Britain to carry out this so called 'sport'!
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Unless we are all Vegans, we cannot condemn others for dispatching animal life for the table.
Do we not eat meat or fish or wear animal skin. Most of us do.
Beef, Pork,Venison, Fish and Birds are slaughtered in our name for food. It has always been thus.
Let's live in the real world - Anybody can be a Vegan if they want, it's not for me, but I respect them for their chosen lifestyle .
As a non - Vegan it would be dishonest of me to support this petition. -- Sorry.
Cheers............................K
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Signed OP!
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To be honest it's nothing to do with being vegan or not! They, vegans, do not eat flesh or other animal products full stop! I do, I will even catch fish to eat! It's about the needless slaughter of endangered and threatened wildlife in the name of sport! That is totally different and for that reason I have supported the petition. I don't consider myself to be hypocritical or disingenuous and of course I do respect others and their views even when they are wrong!
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We breed animals specifically for food, we also breed hundreds of thousands of game birds for the gun of which many thousands escape into the wild. We do not breed waders for food people are just depleting the numbers for selfish purposes
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Calling hunting/killing animals sport in this day and age is rather contradictory. There is nothing sporting in taking a creature which is either confined with no escape in terms of the bullring or stocked small pond, or so young and immature as to be positively too niaive to run away such as pheasants bred for the gun. All are "sitting ducks" something frowned upon in the past as being unworthy of being called sport, and derided by the true skilled hunter, who would kill to feed, or to protect crops. Differing degrees of cruelty, exploited either for blood lust in the case of bull fighting, or big business/serious money in other cases. Few societies are now dependent upon true hunter/gathering, so it is more honest to call something by its true nature.
Proper game fishing and stalking is highly skilled, and even I can relate to the underpinning requirements to do it successfully, even if hating the end product to a greater or lesser extent. In the past, giving a creature a "sporting chance" underpinned a lot of the etiquette, hence double barrelled guns rather than pump action. Two shots only, by time of reload, bird may have been lucky enough to get away!
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Just a word of caution please,about this thread. A petition has been posted which is there for information if there are likeminded people who might want to sign. If we wish to stay within sprit of the Forum T&C's it would be best to treat this thread just as a heads up that the petition is available. If we are going to turn this thread into a general discussion of hunting, shooting and fishing it will end in tears and will be closed.
Thanks
David
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We were on a cc in the Cotswolds when a chased Fox came on site,much to the annoyance of the hunt, who wanted it chased back off the site,which everyone refused,the hunt members said "it has been a centuries old tradition",which was answered with the retort from one of the members was,"but the majority of the population are more civilised now, its time you and your fellows became the same" the hunt then left without comment.
ps The fox was not seen after coming on site and running under a caravan
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A very good post tda. Your viewpoint is valid and I firmly believe that the vast majority of true and proper sportsmen would not support the idea of increasing the pressure on endangered and threatened wildlife in the name of their sport. However, there and the unscrupulous few who care not a jot! That's why I support this petition!
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A very good post tda. Your viewpoint is valid and I firmly believe that the vast majority of true and proper sportsmen would not support the idea of increasing the pressure on endangered and threatened wildlife in the name of their sport. However, there and the unscrupulous few who care not a jot! That's why I support this petition!
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A very good post tda. Your viewpoint is valid and I firmly believe that the vast majority of true and proper sportsmen would not support the idea of increasing the pressure on endangered and threatened wildlife in the name of their sport. However, there and the unscrupulous few who care not a jot! That's why I support this petition!
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A very good post tda. Your viewpoint is valid and I firmly believe that the vast majority of true and proper sportsmen would not support the idea of increasing the pressure on endangered and threatened wildlife in the name of their sport. However, there and the unscrupulous few who care not a jot! That's why I support this petition!
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Good post David. Some may want to sign the petition and some in all honesty would find it dishonest to do so.
I maintain that those of us who eat dead animals have no right to be critical of those who unfortunately have to do the killing. Somebody has to do it or else we would go hungry.
Live and let live is a good motto.
Cheers ......................K
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That's very true too in my opinion, like many I am in no way critical of those that provide the meat on our table within reason. Now I love all kinds of meats as long as they are sourced from sustainable numbers and not from animals endangered or threatened in the wild in any shape or form. I reckon the very vast majority of we humans believe this to be true.
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found 8 messages in junk mail asking to confirm,now done
