Done it right or wrong
Tues day traded the good old Shogun in which we had for ten years.
Take possession of a Brand new Santa Fe Wiggins edition Auto this coming Friday, was very impressed with the test Drive checked out the reports on the Hyundai online on the car and towing came out very favourable, any one out their tow with one . Getting the dealer to fit the tow bar so as not to cause any problems with the warranty. Can't tow with-it until its done 1200 miles which may take until end of March. The weight is ok Towing a 2015 SB Lunar Clubman l won't have anything to report back until l have done our first outing. Here's hoping l have made the wright choice
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Why can't you tow with it from day one ? Never heard that one before and I worked in the motor trade all my working life. the worst thing you can do to a new engine is cosset it and drive around like your "driving Miss Daisy"
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Trying to get serious answer to my question, if all you can do is come up with wise cracks don't bother. l am also a retired engineer, so l know about warranties having maintained Gas turbines reciprocating compressors and so on. all l am after is if someone with a Santa Fe been given the same information
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I've never had a Sante Fe and wouldn't want one but many manufacturers state in their handbooks that you shouldn't tow for the first x number of miles and MM is quite correct. I suspect many people don't bother to read their handbooks.
Why do you doubt what you've been told, Heethers?
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Couldn't tow with my Volvo V70 until it had done 1000 milesish. Many manufacturers are doing it and it states quite clearly in the handbook, which proves that 30 years in the motor trade means diddly squat and you're probably not as good at your job as you thought you were, not hearing about something because you've been in the trade for 30 years doesn't mean it isn't true.
As for the Santa fe, I'm thinking about buying one later next year so I'd like to know what they're like and whether buying one would be the right thing to do. I've narrowed my choice down to a Ssang Yong Rexton, a Santa fe and the Volvo XC60.
I don't really want the Volvo because they scrapped the brilliant V70 for the V90 which is way overpriced, dumping on their loyal customers, the Ssangyong uses too much fuel but has a low range gearbox and a ladder chassis, so it's rather old school but I kind of like that and it has the Mercedes auto gearbox but are they reliable. The Sant Fe is Hyundai, says it all really but it has seven seats, 4x4 and lots of useful features.
But what I really want is a new Discovery, a proper one not the freelander with a different body on it. Expensive and I doubt I can go that high.
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I suspect the boffins will suggest it's to do with the computerised engine management systems and those expected engine performances under normal conditions. These systems have memories and will manage themselves to a degree and I'd bet tugging is not part of the programmed expectations within the first few months of its 'life'.
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Thank you for your posts pick the Santa Fe up this Friday will probably take me to end of March to do 1200 miles will just have to skip Feb and March this year. Gives me time to suss out all the electronic equipment. All we did when we picked the shogun up ten years ago was to get in and hit the accelerator jobs a goodun, its the changing times la 'm fraid
Cars have more gadgets than planes now
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The Sante Fe looks good to me too especially with 5 years warranty....
Steve
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We bought our last 2 Kugas from new and the dealer said there was no need to 'run them in' . I didn't put the 1.5 tons on the back until I had done 1000 miles though. Just checked the handbook and it doesn't say not to - just don't over rev the engine.
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Thanks JVB.
7 years!
even better than Hyundai and we have a local Kia dealer too...
Steve
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Mercedes are around the same quite clear in the handbook. Daft to ignore, if there was a problem with e.g. engine (even if its unrelated) and the manufacturer via dealer is made aware you were towing with 450` on the clock when the tow truck turned up I expect sympathy would be in short supply.
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Picked the Hyundai up at 11am yesterday, had 12 miles on the clock with a 1/4 tank of Fuel, first port of call Shell garage, took £52 to fill to the top. Computer MPG trip is showing 28 mpg around our village only done 23 mile taking out to day for lengthy run. Hoping the mpg goes up. Up to now quite impressed, wife really loves it which is a relief as she will be using it the most. After having 3 Shoguns l expect to find an SUV a little different, l have read the manual last night first couple of pages in bright yellow do not tow a trailer until 1200 miles is reached, l am little nervous of all the electronics on it, definitely will not be using the self parking. One great thing is the blind spot car over taking in the mirror, well impressed especially when the caravan is in tow. Now only time will tell if it was the right choice, sooner or later the Shogun had to go and with me coming up to 65 in August was the time to have more comfort, wife wasn't to bothered about keeping the shogun for another year has she has not moved off 59 for the last 3 years Ha! Ha!. Thank you for all your input watch this pace to see how we get on over the next couple of months and of course the first tow.
Regards
Heethers
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Would tend to follow manufacturers recommendation. Engines are built with different tolerances and in some cases different materials on bearing/running surfaces. Tighter engine will produce more heat. Some need to loosen before using heavy duty cycles like those in towing.
It is a very devisive subject, some favour a harsh break in, some a more gentle approach. Both camps can provide supporting experience. Ultimately its your investment!
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Heethers - if it reassures you, my Touareg came with the instruction that nothing was to be towed during the first 1000 kms - which, bearing in mind the cost of a new car these days, I wasn't going to risk ignoring. Must admit though, I did put that mileage on fairly quickly so we could get away in the van again!
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richardandros
Yes my owners book stipulates 2000 kilometres or 1200 miles, we average around 130 miles a week, but have 1 round trip of 120 miles every six weeks, it wall probably take 10 weeks to a achieve so should be ok for our first trip to Bridlington cc site for the 19th of March. Unfortunately will not make Febs trip this year, also the van needs to go back to the dealer to have some minor things done so that's now going to be after March. So far pleased with the car when l am allowed to drive it her doors uses it the most. Will know more when we tow the van, it will need to perform well to live up to the Shogun, hoping for better fuel economy already saved 300 quid on road tax, insurance up slightly with it being new.
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The towing sensors on the Santa Fe just read that the towing sensors are over ridden when the car is plugged in to the caravan, can@t seem to find it in the handbook unless l am looking in the wrong place.Those that have just taken ownership lately of a Santa Fe that's towed can you confirm, If not l will have to connect up to the van and try to confirm it my self.
Thanks
Heethers
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We bought a Santa Fe Wiggins in November. It does actually recommend that you do not tow for 1200 miles in the rather substantial handbook!
Ours is coming up to 2000 miles now and will be towing soon as we have to fetch the van from store and take it for a service, followed by a week in it!
They are very nice cars and came with a big discount which is why we did'nt buy another Sorento-which we had had for 3 years.
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I got my new Santa Fe Wiggins SE in Oct 2016. Love it!
and yes, it says in black & white in the instruction manual not to tow in first 1200 miles. Dealer forgot to tell me, so ended up lending me a used one for a weekend when I needed to tow prior to completing the 1200.
I'm surprised some folk have said they have never heard of a towing running in period, because whilst I am no car expert, I have come across this across a number of brands when I've been test-driving, talking to salesmen, etc.
I had an XC60 before changing to the Santa Fe. I'd say the SF maybe doesn't have quite as much power (5 cylinder 2.4 v 4 cylinder 2.2), but that difference is neglible for towing my 7.5m van. SF is better equipped, has more functional gadgets, a smoother ride.
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My Mazda handbook says 600 miles or 1,000 km. It does explain that towing too early could cause wear on some drivetrain parts although I do not know to what extent. The big problem would be if it breaks within that period your warranty will be void. A bit remote but it is a risk.
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Half way their now done 600 miles with the SF, up to now well pleased nearly halved the fuel we use to use which is a relief, mind you always new the good old shogun disliked going past filling stations but it did what it said on the tin. Just got to wait for the first tow at this rate should make 1200 miles in time for the first outing in March. One point l had a detachable tow bar fitted by the dealer for warranty issues, the sales guy told me it was a witter, l am not so sure looks like westfalia to me, doesn't say in the instructions booklet, can't find any makers name on the tow hitch. Going to marry it up to the van later to day to check electrics hopefully find out then which it is. Let you know how the tow goes compared with the Shogun later next month.
Heethers
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