Caravan v Motorhome Dilemma or Pipedream?

DavidKlyne
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edited January 2013 in Your stories #1

 In an earlier story I asked whether we could do without a caravan mover and by a large margin we decided that we could not. That got us thinking about whether we should think about a Motorhome. Sacrilege I hear you cry but let’s not be dog in the manger about it! We have caravanned for over thirty years and visited many countries in Europe as well as staying on sites in the UK. 

So what has brought this rash thought into our heads? Well the problem with the mover for one and  the issues caused by a non-functioning mover the inconvenience caused by impatient neighbours and parking. Having towed in excess of 80,000 miles it is not the towing. My Sorento is also getting to the point where it should be replaced with something which is more economical and costs less to tax each year. That in itself will be a big investment. The thought then followed that if we used that money and the trade in value of the caravan perhaps that would give us a large slice towards a motorhome, or so we thought! When I get a bee in my bonnet about something I tend to go to town. Margaret was bombarded with information whether she wanted it or not. Websites were searched to see what was on offer. I think it fair to say that we would want to buy new. The only problem we soon discovered was that new motorhomes, especially by the time you have added a few extras and other charges soon mount up to a tidy sum. It seems that you have to be prepared to invest in the region of £40000/45000 for even the most modest of motorhomes. This we found somewhat scary given that we would not want to borrow money to buy and it would leave a massive hole in our savings, something that Margaret has a bigger problem with than me but I can understand that those savings have been hard won and not to be fritted away on a whim! There is also the risk that if we did not like it any further change could prove loss making. 

Moving away from the cost implications we would have to decide on size. Our caravan has an internal length of about 6 metres. Layout is front settees and a fixed bed with bathroom across the back of the van. It has proved to be ideal for our longer trips as no bed making involved. Now you can get motorhomes with similar layouts, albeit not always possible to get the rear bathroom. The Bailey Approach 745 seemed an ideal candidate but at 7.5 metres long is it too big? The other layout we quite like is the rear U shaped seating which converts to a double bed and this allows you to reduce the length by a metre. The strange thing is that having a smaller motorhome does not seem to shave off the total cost! There are other considerations, do you go for a van conversion, coach built or A Class? Should it be manual of automatic gearbox just like my current car. You can see that I seem to be getting to grips with the subject, or perhaps just too much information. 

There are of course other issues like could we manage without a car? We do stay at a lot of campsites where we can use public transport but in other cases we are right out in the countryside. I don’t wish to sound impolite to those that do this but to give up caravanning and then tow a car behind a motorhome seems a bit pointless? So the decision comes down to sticking with caravanning or making a leap of faith in changing to a motorhome. Whist the idea of a motorhome has many attractions I think we are edging towards staying with the caravan. We do plan to go to the NEC to explore the idea further so this might not be the end of the story!!!

 

David

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  • chasncath
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    edited January 2013 #2

    David,

    You're right in identifying the restriction that not having a car can have. Motorhoming is a different style of camping that lends itself to multi-stop, short-duration touring: we always seek sites where we can walk, cycle, bus or train to town, village,
    beach or city.

    As you are an all-year frequent-traveller to Europe, why not pick a fully winterised European 'van, with seatbelts in the back to match the number of berths, and somehow manage without an oven!

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2013 #3

    The motorhome mags seem full of Continental models, almost makes you feel that they don't like British ones!!! However what I have noticed on many Eupopean models is a high double bed, obviously to provide more storage in the 'garage' However I don't think
    we like this feature. Now when you say fully winterised what exactly does that mean?

    David

  • chasncath
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    edited January 2013 #4

    By 'winterised' I mean habitable to -15C as per the TUV standard. A double floor with all water tanks (fresh and waste) inboard. Even in UK this must be a big plus over UK vans with external tanks and exposed heater ducts. The other 'plus' is that when in
    Europe your door and awning is on the 'correct' side. An earlier second-hand Hymer A class without a fixed bed and with a rear kitchen layout would be worth considering.

    Is this turning into a 'discussion' David? 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2013 #5

    I think it might be, I shall be breaking my own rules!!!

    The story was really meant to be a tongue in cheek look at our decision making process!!

    David

  • Fisherman
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    edited January 2013 #6

    Matter of choice and some compromises. We motorcaravan some 90 days p.a. Rarely stop more than 3 nights anywhere and on my regular fishing trips to North Scotland move perhaps daily.Motorhome ideal for wild camping at fishing locations. Plenty of room for
    2. Totally self contained. Fully insulated, gives 38mpg.If staying some time with awnings etc, caravan is obvious choice.Drives like a car, stays on house drive, ready to go within 30 mins.

  • Ikenirvin
    Ikenirvin Forum Participant Posts: 5
    edited January 2013 #7

    Its an interesting dilema! We spent the best part of two years looking investigsting and visiting every possible dealer and show and shop we could find!!!I wanted a camper van hubby wanted a caravan ...so we'v got a caravan and very nice it is to lovely
    fixed bed and big end bathroom and plentyof room to move around!! I look at campers and motor homes on sites when we'r away and think to myself mmmmmm nice for a night or two but that would be my limit i think and the biggest problem for me is the idea of
    looking at the steering wheel and driving area whilst relaxing with a glass of wine!! 

  • Supertractorman
    Supertractorman Forum Participant Posts: 79
    edited January 2013 #8

    Having had both, I would say a caravan is far better when the family is young and you spend a week on site and stick all the bikes etc in the awning. Once the young ones have flown the nest then a motorhome is ideal with no water to fetch, pull up on site
    and put the kettle on in minutes, and if you want to stay somewhere for one or two weeks pop the car on a trailer behind and you have the best of both worlds.  Also good for spending the young ones inheritance
    Cool.

    David

     

  • Spannerdo
    Spannerdo Forum Participant Posts: 58
    edited January 2013 #9

    My brother in law has purchased a motor home and very nice it is too for 2 people and can at a push accomodate my wife and I for meal times.

    We have a caravan and when we meet up for a break we use our car as the run-around which is perfectly acceptable and means that we can get to see more places and have non of the difficulties associated with trying to park a motorhome in some car parks:-
    height barriers and small parking spaces with all the relevant jobsworth rules about not using more than one space etc.

    But when they go out solo they have to consider all those things but on the plus side have one of those continental vans with a high fixed bed in the rear which provides substantial garage space that permits easy stowage for folding bikes along with all
    the other paraphenalia which we all end up taking away (caravan or motorhome owner).

    It's not an easy decision...good luck

  • Longtimecaravanner
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    edited January 2013 #10

    I am so glad that we don't have to make the decision. We couldn't afford a motorhome so the decision is made for us.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2013 #11

    I am so glad that we don't have to make the decision. We couldn't afford a motorhome so the decision is made for us.

    I am not sure we can!!!! When we have been lucky enough to buy a new caravan we know exactly what we want all those years of experience go out the window when you start looking at motorhomes!!!

    David

  • WhataCarryon
    WhataCarryon Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited January 2013 #12

    We too are thinking of trading in our Landrover Discovery & swift challenger but the trade in price for the two is not so appealing, the dilemma is tow car or no tow car but the cost is spiralling. The thought is to find a static tourer site or one that
    will tow it out for when we want to stay but limits where we go. Decisions decisions. 

    Good luck with yours.

  • royandsharont
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    edited January 2013 #13

    David as a new motorhome owner we have no personal advice to give but we bought ours because we had seen so many on the continent and all seemed to be enjoying life. We spoke to a lot of people and everyone, without exception, who had had a caravan and a motorhome all said the motorhome was the best option at later life ages. Another friend who had toured extensively in his also said the layout that best suited two for travelling was side settee's at the front for lounging on and a fixed bed above a garage at the rear, unless mobility problems meant you could not get up to the bed. The bonus of a large garage was not to be missed. So we looked at what was available and bought a new Bessacarr E480G back end of last year and got a good price because although it was new it was an older model. We have only been away in it twice so far so are looking forward to the continent in April. The cost is a shock though, but you cannot take it with you so enjoy life whilst you are physically able to we thought and justified the cost immediately.

    Regards, Roy

  • peedee
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    edited January 2013 #14

    I guess you must have added up the cost of a new car and 4x4? Not too far off the price of an average motorhome. My advice is don't be worried about length, but don't go above 8 meters. Height and width are more of a problem than length.

    Do consider payload, some motorhomes have pitiful payloads. Make sure you have more than enough for your needs.

    peedee

  • milliehull
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    edited February 2013 #15

    We swapped the other way 5 years ago.  Having had motorhomes for years and enjoyed many holidays travelling the length and breadth of England and also France my husband decided that he wanted to try caravanning.  I wasn't so keen but was persuaded.  We love the caravan - it is much more spacious and comfortable.  It also means that we have a car so we can explore the area.  It is an entirely different type of holiday.  Instead of staying a maximum of 4 or 5 nights on a site and then moving on we stay longer at each site and make friends.  We also like having the awning which isn't easy with a motorhome.  The only downside is that towing isn't as easy as driving a motorhome.  Although I must admit filling stations in France are easier with just a car rather than with the motorhome - we have had a few nightmares trying to manouvre a motorhome past their pay kiosks!

  • anitainjune
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    edited March 2013 #16

    Hi we looked at Motorhome web sites like Motor home fun and motorhomfacts which gave us lots of information. we had our second hand motor home for 4 years, really enjoyed travelling around europe, but sold it in 2012 to go back to caravaning. Its great fun
    at first but standing at bus stops isn't and buses go to towns in general? Its not as restful and you always worry about parking if you take it off for site seeing. As I said great for europe and maybe Scotland but not so relaxing for elsewhere.