Keep to the point

Rayrowe35
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edited December 2015 in How to use Club Together #1

I have noticed that some members, rather than help another by giving a useful reply, prefer to make a smart comment or climb on their favourite hobby horse. A. Member with what seems to them to be a serious problem can do without these remarks. 

Perhaps the worst of these could be removed by the monitors.

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  • Tirril
    Tirril Forum Participant Posts: 439
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    edited December 2015 #2

    Agree Ray - it is especially frustrating to the OP if the question gets buried and the opportunity for help is lost.

  • bestboy
    bestboy Forum Participant Posts: 302
    edited December 2015 #3

    Sadly some posts just lend themselves to ridicule!

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited December 2015 #4

    Ray, this never used to happen on this forum in the early days. It seems to be rampant now  and like you say is disrespectful to the OP. 

    The sensible way to stop this is for any post which strays from  the title subject be removed immediately by the mods. 

    This should be done fairly.and without favour. 

    As the forum contributers reduce in number, some of the few remaining are using the forum as social media. It will only get worse as more and more experienced  posters who know about forum etiquete spend more time on other forums.

    Lets give the forum manager time to address this problem.

  • Pathfinder
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    edited December 2015 #5

    I have noticed that some members, rather than help another by giving a useful reply, prefer to make a smart comment or climb on their favourite hobby horse. A. Member with what seems to them to be a serious problem can do without these remarks. 

    Perhaps the worst of these could be removed by the monitors.

    Write your comments here...

    Agree Ray - it is especially frustrating to the OP if the question gets buried and the opportunity for help is lost.

    Write your comments here...

    Ray, this never used to happen on this forum in the early days. It seems to be rampant now  and like you say is disrespectful to the OP. 

    The sensible way to stop this is for any post which strays from  the title subject be removed immediately by the mods. 

    This should be done fairly.and without favour. 

    As the forum contributers reduce in number, some of the few remaining are using the forum as social media. It will only get worse as more and more experienced  posters who know about forum etiquete spend more time on other forums.

    Lets give the forum manager time to address this problem.

    Write your comments here...could not agree more, to me they are just trolls

  • Oneputt
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    edited December 2015 #6

    Sadly some posts just lend themselves to ridicule!

    that may be your view BB but it certainly isn't to a lot of us on here.  A little courtesy and understanding would go a long way to making CT a better experience for us all

  • bestboy
    bestboy Forum Participant Posts: 302
    edited December 2015 #7

    Sadly some posts just lend themselves to ridicule!

    that may be your view BB but it certainly isn't to a lot of us on here.  A little courtesy and understanding would go a long way to making CT a better experience for us all

    Ooops. Sorry I think my post has been mistakenly taken upside down. 

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2015 #8

    I agree Ray. There always has been a small number of posters who will twist an OP to bang on about their pet subject or state their quirky interpretation of club rules, often with a little insult which they seem to think is amusing and makes their comment
    OK. Fortunately the majority do try to abide by the spirit of the T&C and offer helpful advice when asked for. Sadly though, it's sometimes the case that those who have asked for advice don't come back to acknowledge any replies - a simple courtesy which would
    help keep things on track maybe. Happy

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #9

    And another thing.....Happy

    If someone is new and has taken the trouble to sign up for CT and they ask a question only to get the reply "google it" that's not quite in the spirit of things on here. Being on a forum is about conatct with others not Mr Google.

    Thanks to the many CTers who do respond in a friendly way.Smile

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #10

    I agree Ray. There always has been a small number of posters who will twist an OP to bang on about their pet subject or state their quirky interpretation of club rules, often with a little insult which they seem to think is amusing and makes their comment
    OK. Fortunately the majority do try to abide by the spirit of the T&C and offer helpful advice when asked for. Sadly though, it's sometimes the case that those who have asked for advice don't come back to acknowledge any replies - a simple courtesy which would
    help keep things on track maybe. Happy

    M, you mean like the Availability for Christmas thread being trashed nowSad

  • EJB986
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    edited December 2015 #11

    It's normally called 'going off topic' on a forumWinking

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2015 #12

    It's normally called 'going off topic' on a forumWinking

    Write your comments here...It is indeed EJB, and this forum has that happening more than any other I use.  "Going off topic" or "Hijacking a thread" as it's otherwise known is unacceptable on any forum. 

    The forum manager has the responsibility to do something about " Going off topic " --- I'm sure that will be addressed shortly.---- Keeping to the point is what makes for a good discussion. 

    Cool

     

  • Broadside
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    edited December 2015 #13

    Yes, this all very true, I now think twice about posting on this forum, purely because of the handful of regulars who pounce on you as soon as they think you have posted something that they disagree with or that they dislike. I have asked why do they get
    personal and nasty just because they disagree. It must put a lot of members off joining in what should be a free and easy way of sharing our pleasure of caravanning/motorhoming. Lets look forward to the new year and maybe see less of the nastyness (and moaning)
    on here and more of joining in with each other to extend our pleasure.

    Merry Christmas to all and a happy 2016 of caravanning

  • peedee
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    edited December 2015 #14

    Going off topic, hijacking a thread or whatever, it should in the first instance be down to the OP to cut in and request posts stick to topic, that is if he/she is sufficiently bothered. In the worst case it can always be reported.

    I have not noticed it overly bad in fact it has considerably improved of late.

    peedee

  • BRENTRY1896
    BRENTRY1896 Forum Participant Posts: 22
    edited December 2015 #15

    Sadly, this is a problem relating to so many forums, and the CC  is almost certainly the worst. I entirely agree that queries should be answered simply and helpfully, but unfortunately there is a hardcore of self opinionated individuals that have an opinion
    about everything and love to see themselves in print, despite the fact that they rarely offer anything truly helpful other than a smart arsed comment. 

  • XTB 907
    XTB 907 Forum Participant Posts: 47
    edited December 2015 #16

    So, is everyone saying it should be a simple question/answer forum - sounds a tad boring to me Frown

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2015 #17

     

    If someone is new and has taken the trouble to sign up for CT and they ask a question only to get the reply "google it" that's not quite in the spirit of things on here. Being on a forum is about conatct with others not Mr Google.

     

    Nope. If the answer is there plain and obvious on Google and questioners can't be bothered to look, and expects someone to do it for them, I shall continue to say to them that the Lord helps those who help themselves. 

     

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #18

     People are asking for respect for the OP,  not all of the posts are "discussions." The CL Late Availibilty thread, for example, was for CL owners to post vacancies not for chit chat about what people wanted on CLs.

  • XTB 907
    XTB 907 Forum Participant Posts: 47
    edited December 2015 #19

    ET, don't forget religion is not allowed on here!  Laughing

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #20

    Sorry Eurotraveller I don't agree with you.

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2015 #21

    oh, this is developing nicely Smile 

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #22

    No more comments from me Husky.

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2015 #23

     

    If someone is new and has taken the trouble to sign up for CT and they ask a question only to get the reply "google it" that's not quite in the spirit of things on here. Being on a forum is about conatct with others not Mr Google.

     

    Nope. If the answer is there plain and obvious on Google and questioners can't be bothered to look, and expects someone to do it for them, I shall continue to say to them that the Lord helps those who help themselves. 

     

    So can we assume you never asked for any advice when you started caravanning? Have you never asked the wardens or others on site for recommendations for places to visit or eat. Sadly it seems human communication is redundant in the age of Google.

    If someone, possibly a new member posts on here asking for advice, surely the courteous thing to do is to reply if you can help, not make them feel silly for asking the question in the first place. Sad

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #24

    Quite a few folk bowed out of this Forum a while ago. The usual suspects suggested it was those very people who created problems on CT, odd really considering that CT is worse now than what it was. Thread Hijacking, unfriendly posts, unhelpful posts, a general
    air of bitterness persists, so not really anything to do with those that left. It's those that remain carry the blameSad

  • peedee
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    edited December 2015 #25

    odd really considering that CT is worse now than what it was. Thread Hijacking, unfriendly posts, unhelpful posts, a general air of bitterness persists, so not really anything to do with those that left. It's those that remain carry the blameSad

    Odd indeed, that is not how I see it. Am I looking in the wrong places?

    peedee

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #26

    PD, maybe you should look around the Forum, see the problems. We are all part of the problem or part of the solution-only you can answer that.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2015 #27

    Be easier if you point me in the right direction R2B! I admit there are some areas and threads I rarely visit and I am quite content with what I read.

    peedee

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #28

    PD, in that case you have no worriesHappy. I approach it as a-what is good for CT, what is helpful, & I aim to swerve any nastiness, in
    adopting this attitude I find many problems around CT. It is not for me to isolate negative threads that may then isolate problem causers, too negative for me.

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited December 2015 #29

    Dear me - not been on here for a while and reading this I can see why.

    You must stick to the orginal topic, you must not ask anything that someone could percieve as google-able......really not too friendly is it?

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2015 #30

    so, if you have an opinion or view on a subject it would seem your not allowed  to air it  on CT, Surprised

  • Bugs
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    edited December 2015 #31

    I have noticed that some members, rather than help another by giving a useful reply, prefer to make a smart comment or climb on their favourite hobby horse. A. Member with what seems to them to be a serious problem can do without these remarks. 

    Perhaps the worst of these could be removed by the monitors.

    Hi Ray

    A number of the Community Guidelines do cover the situations you are describing, including hijacking of discussions etc

    A particularly relevant Guideline is this one:

    We all stray off topic from time-to-time but please don't hijack discussions that are about a specific subject or that are asking for advice. You may mean it as light hearted fun, but it can be interpreted as troll like behaviour to other users and can put new contributors off from taking part.

    The CC Staff and Champions do step in where this gets out of hand, but of course it would help if everyone on the Forum remembered that they have signed up to the Guidelines and posted accordingly.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers

    Bugs