CLs displaying 2017 charges?
On looking for a CL yesterday I noticed that quite a number had their 2017 prices in place already and most had gone up by £2?
Has the CC asked or directed these CLs to increase their prices as too many members are using CLs instead of CC main sites?
Comments
-
I've noticed this too. Some price rises are 20% I've never had that much rise in my life.
So many members ask the question re the clubs involvement in setting prices. It gives food for thought. The funny thing is the club never give a reply
0 -
As a CL Owner I can comment on this matter from our position. We regularly receive Newsletters from the Club updating us on things the Club are doing and items which may well be relevant to how we run our CL's, such as any new legislation coming up etc.
We never have any reference to what charges we should make or in fact what the Club are charging on their own sites. Each year we have a visit from our local CL Sites Inspector which can be at any time and not advised prior to the visit to see if the site
is tidy, grass cut etc and also to check how many vans are on site and if all Visitors present have their Membership Card with them. No reference is ever made to charges and when we proposed opening our CL at the start, we enquired from him what we should
charge. His reply was that he was not allowed to advise but suggested that we looked at the prices and facilities of neighbouring CL's and be competitive when starting out in order to build our own clientele and get the essential new business. Well 6 years
on we have only had one price rise from the £10 we started with, and now have 70% repeat business, but will have to rise to £13 this October to pay for increased refuse collection charges and increased Public Liability cover to ensure we have all aspects of
this little business covered. So no "Big Brother" is telling us what to charge or do if that answers your questions, but I could easily see other Inspectors may make comments in their conversations which might be against Club guidance.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
0 -
I 100% echo what David says. Nobody is telling us what we should charge....there is no conspiracy going on!
I am putting my nightly fee up from £12 to £13 from January 2017 and yes, this is an 8.3% rise but would you prefer it if I charge my visitors £12.06 (roughly .5% on a par with inflation)? I think most visitors would think me completely mad and what would be the point anyway. Yes, I could put it up to £12.50 but since we opened we have invested a lot of money and time into making our CL what it is today, hard standings, FREE wifi etc etc, which is what people want despite members on here saying otherwise, so I'm not about to apologise for an additional £1 per night.
The reason the 2017 prices are already showing is because last month (June) all CL owners had to let HO know what changes we wanted to make for next year because they have to organise the printing of the sites directory ready for the new year and I should think that takes some doing and yes, there will be errors in it! It is HO's decision to put the 2017 prices on the website now....we were not consulted about that but at least we are not hiding our price rises and springing them on members come 1st January.
I hope this helps to explain the situation from another CL owners point of view.
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 1026, page 400 of the 2015/2016 Sites Directory0 -
Again as a non member I require a little advice, the price you quote is that all year? On a CL is there no peak period?
Nicola your CL is one I have been looking at as a regular weekend retreat. Small world. (If we join the club)
0 -
I for one like to see proper up to date prices quoted as there is nothing that puts me off a CL more than being quoted a higher price than in the book or on the web site. OK Irealise its from prices. I do however now find them generally pricing themselves
out of the market particularly off peak. Competition from the commercial sites is fierce. In May were looking at the LLeyn Peninsular and most Cls were in the region of £15 (basic) Haven charged £9-90 per night for an Europitch. OK not a proper comparison
but the quality was superb and made us look at commercials for every holiday ( we have been away 11 times already this year.Next week a CL)0 -
Captain, I can only speak for myself as a CL owner but one who is in regular contact with some 40+ other CL owners. My price of £12 per night (all in I might add, no hidden extras
) is for all year round, as will be my £13 per night from January 2017 onwards. I don't charge more during school holidays. Quite frankly, I think
anything up to £15 or £16 per night to include electric, wifi etc is a bargain. We are happy to pay £20 per night if we can get a serviced pitch when we (very rarely) manage to get away in our caravan!
You would be very welcome here...we're very friendly
and we have made the site and keep the site how we would like it to be were we staying
on it...which has been tempting sometimes when things get a bit too much!
If you look at my website and click the link you will
be able to read all my reviews even though you're not a member....yet.
Look forward to meeting you before too long. Go on, join the Club....you know you want to really!
Best regards
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 1026, page 400 of the 2015/2016 Sites Directory0 -
I 100% echo what David says. Nobody is telling us what we should charge....there is no conspiracy going on!
I am putting my nightly fee up from £12 to £13 from January 2017 and yes, this is an 8.3% rise but would you prefer it if I charge my visitors £12.06 (roughly .5% on a par with inflation)? I think most visitors would think me completely mad and what would be
the point anyway. Yes, I could put it up to £12.50 but since we opened we have invested a lot of money and time into making our CL what it is today, hard standings,
FREE wifi etc etc, which is what people want despite members on here saying otherwise, so I'm not about to apologise for an additional £1 per night.
The reason the 2017 prices are already showing is because last month (June) all CL owners had to let HO know what changes we wanted to make for next year because they have to organise the printing of the sites directory ready for the new year and I should think
that takes some doing and yes, there will be errors in it! It is HO's decision to put the 2017 prices on the website now....we were not consulted about that but at least we are not hiding our price rises and springing them on members come 1st January.
I hope this helps to explain the situation from another CL owners point of view.
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 1026, page 400 of the 2015/2016 Sites DirectoryNothing wrong with £13 for what I have seen doing a bit of research on your site Nicola.
The Fysh will be visiting later this year.
0 -
I 100% echo what David says. Nobody is telling us what we should charge....there is no conspiracy going on!
I am putting my nightly fee up from £12 to £13 from January 2017 and yes, this is an 8.3% rise but would you prefer it if I charge my visitors £12.06 (roughly .5% on a par with inflation)? I think most visitors would think me completely mad and what would be
the point anyway. Yes, I could put it up to £12.50 but since we opened we have invested a lot of money and time into making our CL what it is today, hard standings,
FREE wifi etc etc, which is what people want despite members on here saying otherwise, so I'm not about to apologise for an additional £1 per night.
The reason the 2017 prices are already showing is because last month (June) all CL owners had to let HO know what changes we wanted to make for next year because they have to organise the printing of the sites directory ready for the new year and I should think
that takes some doing and yes, there will be errors in it! It is HO's decision to put the 2017 prices on the website now....we were not consulted about that but at least we are not hiding our price rises and springing them on members come 1st January.
I hope this helps to explain the situation from another CL owners point of view.
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 1026, page 400 of the 2015/2016 Sites DirectoryNothing wrong with £13 for what I have seen doing a bit of research on your site Nicola.
The Fysh will be visiting later this year.
Thank you Fysh! I look forward to meeting you...as long as you let me know it's you!
All the best
Nicola0 -
Captain, I can only speak for myself as a CL owner but one who is in regular contact with some 40+ other CL owners. My price of £12 per night (all in I might add, no hidden extras
) is for all year round, as will be my £13 per night from January 2017 onwards. I don't charge more during school holidays. Quite frankly, I think anything up to £15 or £16 per night to include electric, wifi etc is a bargain. We are happy to pay £20 per night if we can get a serviced pitch when we (very rarely) manage to get away in our caravan!
You would be very welcome here...we're very friendly and we have made the site and keep the site how we would like it to be were we staying on it...which has been tempting sometimes when things get a bit too much! If you look at my website and click the link you will be able to read all my reviews even though you're not a member....yet.
Look forward to meeting you before too long. Go on, join the Club....you know you want to really!
Best regards
Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 1026, page 400 of the 2015/2016 Sites DirectoryLovely response thank you.
Let's hope all the pieces fit together so we can.
0 -
I for one like to see proper up to date prices quoted as there is nothing that puts me off a CL more than being quoted a higher price than in the book or on the web site. OK Irealise its from prices. I do however now find them generally pricing themselves out of the market particularly off peak. Competition from the commercial sites is fierce. In May were looking at the LLeyn Peninsular and most Cls were in the region of £15 (basic) Haven charged £9-90 per night for an Europitch. OK not a proper comparison but the quality was superb and made us look at commercials for every holiday ( we have been away 11 times already this year.Next week a CL)
Haven are doing very aggressive pricing, along with their Euro pitches it's a very hard act to beat.
Personally speaking we would prefer CL's because we truly hope they are quieter than larger sites, not that I have complaints but every now again, I'm sure you know what I mean.
We are regular visitors to Devon Cofton Holiday Park out of season is also very keenly priced, and has a gym attached which appeals to my late developing (51) fitness regime.
0 -
If you like quiet, you will like CL's Capt.
As a bonus you tend to meet similar minded people. That's why many prefer them to club sites which can be busy and (to my mind anyway) crowded.
That's exactly what we want, while here in Cornwall on holiday we have seen 2 CL's empty, can you imagine the peaceful holiday if you had the entire site to yourself? Bliss.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.Any chance of a PM as to location from the "other" site?
That sounds spot on.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
Use Google maps to look at where you're going but remember how out of date it can be...our CL is just a scrubby field on Google.
We can accommodate articulated lorries into our yard so you will have no problems if you do decide to pay us a visit.
Nicola0 -
I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
When the CLs are accepted into the network I assume that access is one of the things checked by the Club. We have had some tight squeezes and narrow lanes to get to some CLs but never had a real problems.
You can always ask the owners when you ring to book if there are any issues. You'll soon stop worrying.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.Any chance of a PM as to location from the "other" site?
That sounds spot on.
Have a look at the reviews for CL no 1435 in site directory. It's behind the comm site but hidden from it. Any more questions just ask.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.
I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
Use Google maps to look at where you're going but remember how out of date it can be...our CL is just a scrubby field on Google.
We can accommodate articulated lorries into our yard so you will have no problems if you do decide to pay us a visit.
NicolaNicola we are currently on holiday in Cornwall, I don't have an Ipad or the like so doing my research on my mobile which isnt ideal and on C&CC sites dam near impossible.
We weekend away quite a bit and intend increasing this to hopefully around 20 weekends a year, sometimes 1 car some times 2, we really really hope you CL fits the bill, but until we return home and can use a computer it's hard to say, but it does sound and look like it does.
Let's hope so.
Sorry should have added all 20 weekends will be at your CL.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
We read the reviews and then examine the roads on Google Earth. If they are classed a B roads they are generally good, but can have narrow spots especially in the more rural counties, eg Shopshire, Herefordshire, Cornwall & Devon.
0 -
It's not just CLs though. We are at present on a small commercial site, no toilet block, but have H/S serviced pitches & a couple of non-serviced grass pitches and a fishing lake. The charges are £15 & £13 respecively and I'd be very surprised if there's
a quieter site. We regularly use Cls, having stayed on 22 so far this year, but do look to use other types of sites when appropriate, as long as the price is right, as far as we're concerned.I do have this nagging concern about access roads, how do you decide were to go in this respect?
Use Google maps to look at where you're going but remember how out of date it can be...our CL is just a scrubby field on Google.
We can accommodate articulated lorries into our yard so you will have no problems if you do decide to pay us a visit.
NicolaNicola we are currently on holiday in Cornwall, I don't have an Ipad or the like so doing my research on my mobile which isnt ideal and on C&CC sites dam near impossible.
We weekend away quite a bit and intend increasing this to hopefully around 20 weekends a year, sometimes 1 car some times 2, we really really hope you CL fits the bill, but until we return home and can use a computer it's hard to say, but it does sound and
look like it does.Let's hope so.
I can vouch that access to Skybarn couldn't be easier. Wish all sites were this easy to get to!!
0 -
Thanks Nellie I think that's sold us.
Nicola see you soon
0 -
As a CL Owner I can comment on this matter from our position. We regularly receive Newsletters from the Club updating us on things the Club are doing and items which may well be relevant to how we run our CL's, such as any new legislation coming up etc.
We never have any reference to what charges we should make or in fact what the Club are charging on their own sites. Each year we have a visit from our local CL Sites Inspector which can be at any time and not advised prior to the visit to see if the site
is tidy, grass cut etc and also to check how many vans are on site and if all Visitors present have their Membership Card with them. No reference is ever made to charges and when we proposed opening our CL at the start, we enquired from him what we should
charge. His reply was that he was not allowed to advise but suggested that we looked at the prices and facilities of neighbouring CL's and be competitive when starting out in order to build our own clientele and get the essential new business. Well 6 years
on we have only had one price rise from the £10 we started with, and now have 70% repeat business, but will have to rise to £13 this October to pay for increased refuse collection charges and increased Public Liability cover to ensure we have all aspects of
this little business covered. So no "Big Brother" is telling us what to charge or do if that answers your questions, but I could easily see other Inspectors may make comments in their conversations which might be against Club guidance.David www.perthshirecl.co.uk
Thanks ST man
I think that is the very first time I have read anything like your answer re the price structure. That is probably why so many members are so suspicious, the shroud of silence that has hung around this topic.
0 -
Thanks Nellie I think that's sold us.
Nicola see you soon
Excellent! Be sure and let me know it's Captain Caravan when you book!
Nicola.
Think that C C's been with you in another guise, in the past, Nicola!
0 -
Thanks Nellie I think that's sold us.
Nicola see you soon
Excellent! Be sure and let me know it's Captain Caravan when you book!
Nicola.
Think that C C's been with you in another guise, in the past, Nicola!
Sorry don't get the joke.
Nicola will be the first ever CL we will have ever used, we need to return home join the club then check the calander.
There are quite a few good points to the site, the best my long time friend and his family isn't a million miles away that's Sleaford, so we are very pleased. Online booking too!
0
