World Athletics - Blighted by doping and cheating.
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No , so many cheats now right through the all sports including trainers managers ect, fell sorry for the genuine ones. ( if there are any )
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What a farce
one minute Russia banned from Rio ( which I agreed with) now the I O C says yes they can compete in Rio why do they even bother
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The Russian govement financed and controlled the drug abuse just heard on the news the athlete who done the whistle blowing about Russia was and is a clean athelete but they are not allowed to participate in Rio , but can go as a Spectator as their guest
, what a load of baloneymust admit I love sport abielt footy / cricket but I have no interest in this Olympic's at all , with what's been going on in Rio and the drugs with Russia , to much controversy and how can anyone watch without thinking who's cheating
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Russia's Track and Field athletes remain banned from competing at Rio. Other sports have to be guided by their own governing body, and sadly only have 12 days to make a decision one way or another.
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37 Russians, apart from all of the Track & Field Team, have been banned by their respective sport's bodies.
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The only way to put a stop to drugs cheating in the future is, if any athlete is caught using banned substances, even for the first time, they should be banned from the sport
"For Life" No if's or buts.Until athletes realise that by taking illegal drugs they are ending their sporting career, there will always be drugs cheats in international sporting events.
K
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Certainly agree with you Kennine but alas its all money ! money ! money !
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A number of cyclists have now described how easy it was to avoid the random drug tests......usually by simply 'being elsewhere' when the doping team visited.
Better to accept a warning for missing a test than to fail a test.
How many top athletes have fallen foul of missing tests (including many British athletes)? Does anyone seriously believe that they weren't doing exactly the same thing?
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Well, following on from my last post, Lizzie Armistead has just managed to get away with missing three tests in the last year.
She didn't appeal against he first missed test until she had three strikes against her. Her appeal was based on the testers not having made enough effort to wake her. Probably difficult for them, if she was in hiding somewhere!
Disgraceful, but she's on the British team so (like many before her) she gets away with it.
Guilty as anything!
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Listening to the latest news with respect to drugs, suspensions & appeals coming out of Rio d J this week, personally I'll just accept that they are all "at it" and that any records generated will only be to show how good the respective Drug Scientists are
Brian A B M
Incidentally was it this bad when the Olympics were 75% amateur ? { Don't think they were ever 100% amateur }
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When I was training at pole vault all those years ago at lilleshall with all the other young hopefuls for Munich 72 there was never a thought about drugs. For me, it's ruined a sport that I loved. Can't be asked to even watch it now- if there is one cheat,
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I never reached the dizzy heights of being coached, or even considered for coaching, but nevertheless, I lived for sport and, in my tiny mind, still do.
Thats what makes it all so utterly appalling, all those children willing to give almost
anything to represent Club or Country just to try to win a gong or something == all robbed of even the remotest chance of their dream coming true by some drug pusher making a not so small fortune
and caring nothing, nothing for the sport or the competitors.Its almost enough to drive an old man to tears
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Watching Adam Peaty get His Gold(cleanly) & setting a new record was amazing. Clean Athletes are out there. 7yrs of being under the microscope from His coaches & drug testers & it comes down to 2lengths of a pool. To see His joy is worth it for Him. To the
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Just out of interest, how do you know that this Peaty chap is 'clean' then, Rocky?
Many athletes (including cyclists) were 'under the microscope of the testers' but managed to evade them easily enough and subsequently turned out to have been doping.
As I understand it, this chap managed to break his own record, twice, at just the right time - when he was in line for a gold medal.
Not saying anything one way or the other (I know nothing about him) but is that a remarkable coincidence?
This is the problem with doping and ineffective testing regimes (that allow someone to 'miss' three tests in a year and get away with it). Suddenly everyone's achievements come under suspicion.
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Yes your right fisherman It's such a shame for all sport , I think it's all down to the evil MONEY , sponsorship ect even the Amateur's are at it , there trainers managers its never ending I t has really taken the Sparkle out of the Olympics for me they
must strike and hit hard on all cheaters now !! For the future of sport0 -
Just out of interest, how do you know that this Peaty chap is 'clean' then, Rocky?
Many athletes (including cyclists) were 'under the microscope of the testers' but managed to evade them easily enough and subsequently turned out to have been doping.
As I understand it, this chap managed to break his own record, twice, at just the right time - when he was in line for a gold medal.
Not saying anything one way or the other (I know nothing about him) but is that a remarkable coincidence?
This is the problem with doping and ineffective testing regimes (that allow someone to 'miss' three tests in a year and get away with it). Suddenly everyone's achievements come under suspicion.
Ian, I'm basing it on the fact it's so high profile now(Rio) that the testers are all over the Athletes like a rash. It would be insane for any high profile Athlete to now chance any enhancing substance. Plus I personally believe in the basic integrity of
the Athletes. Their samples will be kept for many years & revisited as more sophisticated tests become available. I watched an ex swimmer being interviewed & heard how every part of an Athletes performance is micro-managed to get savings of 10ths of seconds.
Awesome commitment from Coaches & Athletes.0 -
Well done to the Paralympics Committee for banning Russia. Somebody at last standing up to bullies.
Write your comments here...yes good news but don't forget they back peddled on there original decision regarding Russia in the olympics
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Just out of interest, how do you know that this Peaty chap is 'clean' then, Rocky?
Many athletes (including cyclists) were 'under the microscope of the testers' but managed to evade them easily enough and subsequently turned out to have been doping.
As I understand it, this chap managed to break his own record, twice, at just the right time - when he was in line for a gold medal.
Not saying anything one way or the other (I know nothing about him) but is that a remarkable coincidence?
This is the problem with doping and ineffective testing regimes (that allow someone to 'miss' three tests in a year and get away with it). Suddenly everyone's achievements come under suspicion.
Ian, I'm basing it on the fact it's so high profile now(Rio) that the testers are all over the Athletes like a rash. It would be insane for any high profile Athlete to now chance any enhancing substance. Plus I personally believe in the basic integrity of
the Athletes. Their samples will be kept for many years & revisited as more sophisticated tests become available. I watched an ex swimmer being interviewed & heard how every part of an Athletes performance is micro-managed to get savings of 10ths of seconds.
Awesome commitment from Coaches & Athletes.To give just one example.......Lance Armstrong was massively high profile (he made this swimming chap look like a spot on the horizon, in terms of profile).
He won the worlds biggest sporting event not once but seven times (the T de F makes an olympic swimming event look insignificant).
Much of doping is carried out during training, to build muscle strength etc. not ncessarily during competitions. Hence the importance of out-of-competition testing and not accepting excuses for missing tests.
LA was the master of micro-management and trained relentlessly. He was a great athlete and totally devoted to winning, even without the drugs. He invented the concept of 'marginal gains' before Team Sky was invented.
Every single doper who has been caught out has protested their innocence in the strongest of terms.....and they are almost always very plausable.
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I'm glad I have a simple attitude to these things Ian. I don't look for the most negative points I can find then delve deep into the minutiae. I prefer to trust it is what it is. If it transpires that there is more drug cheats-I'll deal with it. Until then
I will carry on trusting to the integrity of the Athletes.0 -
No Ian, a bit of a 'not the same attitude as you', I'm not interested in arguing or getting into a protracted tit-for-tat 'posting war'. . . .Sorry
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I'm out.0
