Cats

Ourmonty
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edited March 2016 in Your Pets #1

Neighbours have 2 young cats which are using my garden as toilet and killing the birds.

Anyone ever used a cat scarier or any other tips. 

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  • huskydog
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    edited March 2016 #2

    Send the dog out !

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited March 2016 #3

    12 bore shot gun ( for the neighbours. Not the cats ) Surprised

  • fur ball
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    edited March 2016 #4

    Bury used tea bags covered in deep heat half inch under the ground.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #5

    Neighbours have 2 young cats which are using my garden as toilet and killing the birds.

    Anyone ever used a cat scarier or any other tips. 

    I think the clue is in your avatar.......

  • Nuggy
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    edited March 2016 #6

    One of the high powered water pistols.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #7

     

    Neighbours have 2 young cats which  ... and killing the birds.

     ....

    Not that old chestnut ...... don't take it personally, that's what cats do and they don't kill very many cos it's easier to eat at home rather than catch their own tea.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #8

    But they do kill birds just because they enjoy doing it......not just for food.

  • ivorwetwun
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    edited March 2016 #9

    Cats - waste of fur.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2016 #10

     

    Neighbours have 2 young cats which  ... and killing the birds.

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    Not that old chestnut ...... don't take it personally, that's what cats do and they don't kill very many cos it's easier to eat at home rather than catch their own tea.

    The estimated 16 million birds a year killed by cats sounds a lot to me.  The trouble is that cats hunting instinct cuts in and when they catch a bird they often don't kill it but leave it in a terrible mess.

  • ValDa
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    edited March 2016 #11

    You can buy a repellant spray - spray all around your boundaries, and the area being used as a toilet, and the cats won't venture in.  You may have to try more than one make before you find one which works, and keep repeating it, but eventually the cats
    will go elsewhere.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #12

     

    Neighbours have 2 young cats which  ... and killing the birds.

     ....

    Not that old chestnut ...... don't take it personally, that's what cats do and they don't kill very many cos it's easier to eat at home rather than catch their own tea.

    The estimated 16 million birds a year killed by cats sounds a lot to me.  The trouble is that cats hunting instinct cuts in and when they catch a bird they often don't kill it but leave it in a terrible mess.

    And who is it that estimates that? Undecided

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #13

    I read about the numbers in a story by A. Rook, he often writes articles for the Daily Nest.Happy

  • Bob2112
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    edited March 2016 #14

    Pepper is a good repellent the trouble is you have to treat the area every time it rains. I use an electronic gadget which keeps them away but the batteries don't last long. Throwing rocks at them is the most fun and though I have yet to get a direct hit
    I live in hope.

  • huskydog
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    Pepper is a good repellent the trouble is you have to treat the area every time it rains. I use an electronic gadget which keeps them away but the batteries don't last long. Throwing rocks at them is the most fun and though I have yet to get a direct hit
    I live in hope.

    That's OK ,untill they start throwing the rocks backSurprised

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2016 #16

    And who is it that estimates that?

    Just google it Molly.  If every cat had a collar with a bell on it chances are that the numbers would fall although nest predation would probably continue.  From the reading I've done over the years I think there is some exaggeration of the numbers but 16
    million seems fairly reasonable.  Studies have found that some cats never appear to catch/kill birds in their lives. Whilst others appear to kill double the average.  I live fairly close to the centre of a small town and we get an average of between 20 or
    30 bird kills a year left in our garden and we don't have a cat.  Last year I had to kill 2 swallows that had been badly mauled by a neighbours cat. 

    http://www.wildlifeextra.com/go/news/cats-birds.html#cr

    http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/cats/birddeclines.aspx

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/10319711/What-effect-do-cats-have-on-British-wildlife.html

  • Kennine
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    edited March 2016 #17

    We rarely get cats in our garden, Our dog just loves to chase cats. The cats have learned to steer clear and just Poo, Pee and dig up the plants on all the neighbouring property. 

    I quite like seeing cats, but not in my garden. 

    P.S  If you really want to find out how to stop the cat menace and don't have a dog, have a quiet word with a experienced pigeon fancier. They don't have any cat problem either. Wink 

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #18

    How come this thread was moved if it's not about pets?

    (I believe that cats don't consider themselves to be pets - especially when they aren't yours)

  • Pliers
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    edited March 2016 #19

    One of the high powered water pistols.

    Have to admit to using one of these to deter cats, a "super soaker". I like cats, but I don't want them in my garden. They're not daft, and very soon catch on to where they're not welcome, and give our patch a wide berth when on their rounds.

  • Broadside
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    edited March 2016 #20

    Yes, not only are they a nucience at home, they are becomming a nucience on site as some people seem to think its nice and clever to bring these awful things with them and let them roam all over the site, leaving their filth wherever yhey want. The club
    should ban them!! 

  • RichardPitman
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    edited March 2016 #21

    One of our neighbours has just got two young cats. We have a bird feeder outside our front window, on the open plan front garden. The cats lie in wait below this, frightening the birds, if not actually catching them.

    I like cats, and certainly would not wish to hurt them. I have thrown things in their general direction, they think that this is a game and chase the clods of earth that I have thrown for their entertainment. I have opened the window to shoo them away, and
    they have treated this as an invitation to come into the house via the open window.

    We have two dogs, but they are never left unattended in our enclosed back garden, so their cat deterent potential is limited. I am now faced with having to construct some mesh screens to guard the open windows of our rear conservatory, as I caught one of
    the cats attempting to prise an open window wider, so that it could enter and presumably attack the guinea pigs that live in there.

    Imagine the out roar if dogs were allowed to roam freely through neighbours gardens, chasing cats and other wildlife ?

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #22

    In defence of cats...I like them. I have one, he's curled up beside me now, so are the dogs.

    Thankyou "OurMonty" for your OP....shall I let the cat out of the bag?Winking

  • Kennine
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    edited March 2016 #23

     

    Imagine the out roar if dogs were allowed to roam freely through neighbours gardens, chasing cats and other wildlife ?

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    Write your comments here...That used to be the case many years ago Richard ,  but fortunately Dog owners have seen how  antisocial and inconsiderate that outmoded attitude is and now keep their pets under control. 

    All we need no is for cat owners to join the 21st century and adopt the same measures to ensure that ther cats don't roam through neighbours property, peeing, pooing, causing damage and killing other wildlife.

    Cool

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #24

    We don't have a dog so cats feel 'safe' in our garden. They can sit and sunbathe if they want to but it does annoy me when they leave 'little presents' and chase the birds. Have tried several deterrent methods, none completely successful. I love using 'stealth'
    mode to creep up on them and scare the life out of them

  • bestboy
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    edited March 2016 #25

    Before we lost our Bella the next door moggy sat on our shed roof annoying her terribly, now it blatently strolls the garden doing whatever.

    I'm going to get another dog, one capable of climbing sheds!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2016 #26

    K, the only way anyone could ensure a cat didn't roam would to either never let it out, which does happen, poor cats, or to totally enclose their own garden in a chicken wire box! Not pretty and not really practical. Cats climb, hence they are escape artists
    par excellence! Dogs can manage a few feet, providing they are not too fat, but don't have the claws for clinging to get overly high.

    we keep a squeeze bottle/ water pistol and blast any alien cat that isn't scooted by the dogs. All the cat gets is wet, no permanent damage, but they hate water. But best deterrent? Get a cat! They are very territorial. 

  • mickysf
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    edited March 2016 #27

    But they do kill birds just because they enjoy doing it......not just for food.

    I do not believe for one moment they do it because they enjoy it!

    Humans do that!Frown

  • peegeenine
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    edited March 2016 #28

    Domestication of cats is thousands of years behind dogs and is why they are more independant. They still retain much of their wild instincts and is the reason they are still great hunters. It is annoying to find their deposits in your garden but at least
    you know the likelihood of its existance and its whereabouts, unlike its rivals where the minute you step off of your property you are in danger of stepping in something. Cats are were they are today because of human intervention and if you can be patient
    they will become as soppy as dogs and probably just as controllable. At the moment though they are still wild animals just like hedgehogs, foxes and birds ( they do it on your washing).

  • mickysf
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    Domestication of cats is thousands of years behind dogs and is why they are more independant. They still retain much of their wild instincts and is the reason they are still great hunters. It is annoying to find their deposits in your garden but at least
    you know the likelihood of its existance and its whereabouts, unlike its rivals where the minute you step off of your property you are in danger of stepping in something. Cats are were they are today because of human intervention and if you can be patient
    they will become as soppy as dogs and probably just as controllable. At the moment though they are still wild animals just like hedgehogs, foxes and birds ( they do it on your washing).

    to be honest P, I'm questioning if it's cats that have 'domesticated' us unlike we domesticating wolves!Wink

  • DEBSC
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    edited March 2016 #30

    I am not keen on cats, due to them catching birds. However, five years ago we 'inherited' one. She is just like a dog, she jumps up to greet us if we have been away too long. She loves to garden with me, keeping her nose to the dirt while I weed. Follows
    us around the house and onto our lap as soon as we sit down. She is not at all independent and always wants company. Sadly she only has one eye but this does stop her catching birds. She doesn't roam and only poops in our garden. However, the two cats next
    door are always trying to catch birds in our garden. I find manic arm waving and shooing scares them off, with the help of a large water pistol. The front garden is protected by a high pitched sound machine. Why people don't put loud bells on their cats to
    protect wildlife I will never understand! Doing this would save so many little creatures, is it just laziness or don't they care about the birds. Especially sad in the springtime with so many young ones about.

  • Cherokee2015
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    edited March 2016 #31

    Animal charities are advising NOT to put collars on cats as it endangers their lives. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3268803/How-sparkly-collar-cat-kill-RSPCA-warn-owners-strangle-seriously-injure-pets.html

    We are new to cat ownership and as far as I know she doesn't catch birds, although she has caught a couple of mice to give me as a present!