Really - again!
A report in mail on line and other online news , a British family were gassed and robbed of a thousand pounds in a service station in France on there way to Disney land
They believe they were gassed as they did not hear the intruders Mmmm !
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I thought much the same Rubytuesday. Just because they didn't hear anything isn't evidence that they were gassed and - all four of them?
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I was going to post a link to this and then I saw BB's final comment on this thread, which I thought was a fair comment.....
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So who has evidence of what?
The police? The Insurance companies?
Was there any sign of intruders, possessions strewn all over the place etc.- as in a robbery? Service station CCTV footage?
I have to admit that I have not been gassed and whilst feeling sympathy for any victims cannot ,for the life of me, see how 'gassing' can be effective with the ventilation that is built in to todays caravans.
Have any of our members got personal experience of this that they would like to share?
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Edited post: Personal no - but friends, yes! They were lovely people, who lived near us, and alleged that they had been gassed. I've mentioned it several times on here already and don't want to repeat the whole story again, but basically a few months later they were prosecuted for insurance fraud. I think this may have been because they alleged that the same items were stolen both from their caravan during the alleged 'gassing' and from their home in a break in.
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Gassing is very difficult in a caravan. The ventilation and variation in internal area would make it at best very difficult to calculate the amount needed and get it wrong and put too much in and the occupants could be dead, not enough and they wake up. As yet I have seen no evidence of anyone killed or seriously injured or waking because the wrong amount of gas was used then I do find the idea hard to believe.
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A report in mail on line and other online news , a British family were gassed and robbed of a thousand pounds in a service station in France on there way to Disney land
Good Heavens! Do people really carry a thousand pounds of cash on their holidays. We don't.
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Noxious stuff that Beaujolais Nouveau
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Pliers - yes I did.
Went to Portugal for 6 months and had a more than adequate supply of funds, in the form of cash euros, distributed throughout the car and caravan. I had been abroad before and nearly got stuck there when my bank/cedit card refused to honour a transaction, despite my telling them I would be out there during a certain period.
Theoretically a stupid thing to do but in essence a more practical approach to funding !
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I have no idea about gassing although I accept what aneasthetists say - However friends of mine were robbed on the Spannish/French border - in a hired motorhome (I had warned them NOT to stop at borders etc but they were tired and needed a break!) - the most suspicious thing is that their evil Jack Russell didn't utter a yap - even when the police came - he started yapping at the end of the police interview - so I have very high suspicions that somehow he was drugged or gassed. You couldn't normally get within feet of that dog without him raising Hell!
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My son is a specialist in health and safety in the liquid gas industry where he's worked since the late 1980s.
I've discussed this with him several times. As others have said, it might be theoretically possible to kill someone, but to judge the level so the inhabitants just slept deeply would be impossible.
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We very rarely keep any cash in the caravan other than loose change - never any more than £5. We pay virtually everything by card these days. Even car parking I very often pay for through an app on my phone. We carry little cash while abroad too.
It's worrying to hear storis like this though.
David
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This is an urban myth that should have been settled years ago now, the Royal College of Anaesthetists have categorically refuted any possibility that lay or even professionals could do this without inflicting very serious harm to the victims, when Russian
special forces with all the facilities of the state at their disposal tried it in a theatre full of hostages they killed large numbers. It does not happen.Well posted David.
There is no merit in this post. It just furthers scaermongering.
The Mods should close this post
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I have always thought if someone got hold of enough anesthetic? the police would probably know. How would you explain if your car were stopped and searched? Have the authorities indicated any of the victims have side effects i.e.
Side effects of anesthesia can occur during a surgery or procedure, or afterward when you are recovering and the anesthesia is wearing off. The possible side effects vary, depending on what kind of anesthesia you have: general (sedation provided
through inhaled or intravenous – IV – medications), regional (numbing only part of your body, usually below the waist) or local (numbing a small area). While some side effects that occur after surgery may be uncomfortable or frustrating, most don’t last long.General Anesthesia
The side effects of general anesthesia can include:
- Nausea and vomiting – This very common side effect can occur within the first few days of having surgery and can be triggered by a number of factors such as the medication, motion and type of surgery.
- Sore throat – The tube that is put in your throat to help you breathe can leave you with a sore throat after it’s removed.
- Confusion – Confusion when waking up from surgery is common, but for some people – particularly those who are older – confusion can last for days or weeks.
- Muscle aches – The medications used to relax the muscles so a breathing tube can be inserted can cause soreness.
- Itching – This is a common side effect of narcotics, one type of pain medication sometimes used during general anesthesia.
- Chills and shivering (hypothermia) – This is common
when patients regain consciousness after surgery. It can occur in up to half of patients. Researchers aren’t sure, but think it might be related to the body cooling down.
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In my working days we would often take a late ferry crossing and park up on an autoroute aire in the early hours of the morning. After a busy time at work and a long day travelling we would feel tired but happy to be away and sleep like the dead. Lorries
thundering past, coming and going at the services, nothing woud wake us. It certainly felt like being drugged.0 -
That's the trouble with Prosecco.
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I think these thieves are really rather clever. They seem to be able to gas people to perfection search the MH or van and actually find things. It’s amazing when I consider that some things I put in the MH can instantly disappear not to be seen again for
months, if ever.
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Exactly
When I read just one report of " gassed but the the thieves got away with nothing valuable " I will give it more (some) credence.
What seems more statically relevant is the reference to insurance fraud posted. Given that any gassing claim seems to generate massive primary and secondary (social) media coverage it doesn't take much to create a blanket of commercial that suggests to
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If gas was being used it seems strange that nobody has died. Given the scenario of two adults on a bottom bunk level, 7 year ols on an upper level and a baby at floor or seat height and differing amounts of anasthetic needed, When I went for a cancer opp
at age 40 the anesthetist checked my weight and then had be walk up and down a flght of stairs several times checking my chest before and after and also blood pressure and pulse.0
