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well this is interesting, from the West Yorkshire Fire servce (I would class them as experts)
Every caravan should be not less than 6 metres from any other caravan in a separate occupation, and not less than 2 metres from a road.
The point of measurement for porches, awnings etc, is the exterior cladding of the caravan.Porches may protrude 1m into the 6 metres and should be of the open type.
Where awnings are used, the distance between any part of the awning and an adjoining caravan should not be less than 3 metres
What you are quoting CS is the Fire Serivce take on the recommendation put forward for local authorities to use based upon fire tests and trials that took place in the late 50's early 60's. I'm not qualified to say whether or not they are still vaild but
MH's, C/van's, and Tents, etc. have changed somewhat and I do wonder. That said I have no wish to camp any closer to my neighbours than necessary and rules is rules
. Incidentally do we still dunk witches? I understand the necessary laws are still in place 
....Are you saying that the spacing should be even more with the more flammable material being used
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We have been to quite a few CC sites as well as many sites abroad. In all honesty I can't say that I've ever felt cramped on a CC site pitch. I've always had at least a grass strip between us and our nearest neighbour. When travelling abroad site can be
huge, giving each camper lots of space, but they can also be small. OK so some sites have hedges round 3 sides but it means that they pitch right up against it and use every inch that is available. So you are sometimes only inches away from you neighbour.
At one site we used in Luxembourg the pitches were huge, nothing between them just a stone with the pitch number on, again they pitched right up against the boundry, spreading the dreaded sheeting out right over the grass (yes it was grass) and pegging it
down. At least with the CC there is always a no mans land.0 -
well this is interesting, from the West Yorkshire Fire servce (I would class them as experts)
Every caravan should be not less than 6 metres from any other caravan in a separate occupation, and not less than 2 metres from a road.
The point of measurement for porches, awnings etc, is the exterior cladding of the caravan.Porches may protrude 1m into the 6 metres and should be of the open type.
Where awnings are used, the distance between any part of the awning and an adjoining caravan should not be less than 3 metres
What you are quoting CS is the Fire Serivce take on the recommendation put forward for local authorities to use based upon fire tests and trials that took place in the late 50's early 60's. I'm not qualified to say whether or not they are still vaild but
MH's, C/van's, and Tents, etc. have changed somewhat and I do wonder. That said I have no wish to camp any closer to my neighbours than necessary and rules is rules. Incidentally do we still dunk witches? I understand the necessary laws are still in place .Good points, the document was written in 2014 and due to be reviewd later on this year. It is not binding as it says:
Model Standards, on which this note is based, are specified by the Secretary of State under section 5 of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960. The Standards are not statutory,
but represent what should normally to be expected as a matter of good practice. A local authority, in deciding what conditions to attach to a site licence, is required by the Act to have regard to the specified Standard. However, no condition of license may
be specified that relates to any matter in relation to which requirements or prohibitions are, or could be, made by or under, the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005.so in effect the club has a greater spacing betweens caravans than they recommend on
awning pitches at least. There will be an awning 2 to 2.5 meters, the 3m spacing till the next car, then the car width plus a bit till the next caravan about 2 to 2.5m. About 7 or 8m?0 -
Incidentally do we still dunk witches? I understand the necessary laws are still in place
I saw some drunk witches last Halloween
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Corners, what about the Witches question-I'm interested
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Actually those quotes were for static vans, but for the touring vans its is the same except its talks of cars and ancilllary equipment, which I assume means awning.
A minimum distance of 6 metres should be maintained between other units in separate family occupation, and not less than 3 metres between units in any circumstances. Vehicles and ancillary equipment is permitted within the 6 metres space but 3 metres clear space should always be maintained to restrict fire spread.
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well this is interesting, from the West Yorkshire Fire servce (I would class them as experts)
Every caravan should be not less than 6 metres from any other caravan in a separate occupation, and not less than 2 metres from a road.
The point of measurement for porches, awnings etc, is the exterior cladding of the caravan.Porches may protrude 1m into the 6 metres and should be of the open type.
Where awnings are used, the distance between any part of the awning and an adjoining caravan should not be less than 3 metres
What you are quoting CS is the Fire Serivce take on the recommendation put forward for local authorities to use based upon fire tests and trials that took place in the late 50's early 60's. I'm not qualified to say whether or not they are still vaild but
MH's, C/van's, and Tents, etc. have changed somewhat and I do wonder. That said I have no wish to camp any closer to my neighbours than necessary and rules is rules. Incidentally do we still dunk witches? I understand the necessary laws are still in place ....Are you saying that the spacing should be even more with the more flammable material being used
I have no idea. My only very rough measure / experience was my father’s first van which seemed to be made of pressed cardboard and our present MH which is made of two skins of aluminium with high density fire retardant closed cell foam between. I think
the old van would have burnt well and hope that our MH would not. But I still don’t want to be any nearer to others on sites but I have no qualms about using Aires and Stellplatz, etc. where parking can be much closer.What do you mean by more flammable material being used?
...I am thinking of awnings and plastics
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And if more space is given over by cutting the amount of pitches ,its back to the argument of not enough pitches and some sites are always "full",cannot win
I think the winners would be those who get a pitch and when not crammed in "sardine style" enjoy a better visit or "holiday" . Its not the duty of the customer to volunarily accept ever more cramped pitches to solve the shortage of camping places that is
for the providers to sort out....Then we are now in the scenario of space and costs again
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What you are quoting CS is the Fire Serivce take on the recommendation put forward for local authorities to use based upon fire tests and trials that took place in the late
50's early 60's. I'm not qualified to say whether or not they are still vaild but MH's, C/van's, and Tents, etc. have changed somewhat and I do wonder. That said I have no wish to camp any closer to my neighbours than necessary and rules
is rules. Incidentally do we still dunk witches? I understand the
necessary laws are still in place.Wouldn't they have still been using gas mantles then. A lot less safe than modern LED's. Although on the plus side I don't suppose many folk caravaned all year round. So not much use of lights and heating appliances. Cookers apart from you have to hold the
control knob in until it has ignited, have probably not changed much.0 -
Corners, what about the Witches question-I'm interested
Got someone in mind Rocky?
No DD, I just wanted a definitive answer from our resident authority. If anyone knows Mr Corners will
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In the days of gas mantkes we did not go away Dec, Jan and Feb. At other times the gas mantles were great. I replaced just one during 10 years of use.
I replaced many more than that ET. Often they just fell apart or got caught by the match. Matches = fire hazard, I hope Ian insures his box against fire
.Most peeople did replace more mantles. Maybe I was lucky or maybe because it was always me that held the match and not my wife.
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Back in the 'good old days' we had gas lights with the infamous mantles (which fell apart irrespective of the gender of the match holder) and we used a free standing paraffin heater. It wasn't unusual to find ourselves pitched so close to another unit that
we could shake hands out of the windows.Three metres between units is pretty good compared to that and six metres is sheer luxury. Modern day standards are wonderful.
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Back in the 'good old days' we had gas lights with the infamous mantles (which fell apart irrespective of the gender of the match holder) and we used a free standing paraffin heater. It wasn't unusual to find ourselves pitched so close to another unit that
we could shake hands out of the windows.Three metres between units is pretty good compared to that and six metres is sheer luxury. Modern day standards are wonderful.
It is strange that ours did not fall apart. I could never undestand how the mantle, once burned, seemed little more than ash but stayed intact.
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We are off to a CC site soon, only total of 57 pitches overall. Have just checked availability for over our period of stay, showing at least 30 pitches available each of nights we are there, so we will be happy well spaced bunnies! Unless of course someone
desperately in need of company pitches up next to us!0 -
We are off to a CC site soon, only total of 57 pitches overall. Have just checked availability for over our period of stay, showing at least 30 pitches available each of nights we are there, so we will be happy well spaced bunnies! Unless of course someone
desperately in need of company pitches up next to us!..Let us know which site then you might get company for a party
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We are off to a CC site soon, only total of 57 pitches overall. Have just checked availability for over our period of stay, showing at least 30 pitches available each of nights we are there, so we will be happy well spaced bunnies! Unless of course someone
desperately in need of company pitches up next to us!Write your comments here...I wouldn't bet on it. If you choose a pitch because it has sun most of the day then the chances are that the adjacent pitches offer similar benefits so are likely to be just as popular. Best option is to take the worst pitch if
you don't want neighbours.
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We seldom do worst pitch, best pitch! We will be off site during day, either walking or out in MH. I will leave all dog stuff pegged out though, that usually keeps a few at a distance!
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joking!)we are very friendly, like to say hello!
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We are off to a CC site soon, only total of 57 pitches overall. Have just checked availability for over our period of stay, showing at least 30 pitches available each of nights we are there, so we will be happy well spaced bunnies! Unless of course someone desperately in need of company pitches up next to us!
I'm sure that a few of the posters on this thread will want to pitch right up beside you, judging from their comments on here.
If you go to an empty cafe, they'll want to sit on the same table as you too, no doubt!
Very weird........
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