Caravans being towed over the speed limit
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As someone who has investigated accidents then I have to say speed is often a contributary factor in many accidents. At speed things happen faster and you have less time to react. The point at which you lose control is easier to reach and in others may
fail to see you in time. In general driving too fast increases the risk.Agreed, plus not leaving enough distance for emergency breaking.
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As I spend 4 months a year on the continent I am surprised I have never seen all those foreign police persecuting British caravanners and they certainly have never targeted me but then I know the limits and try to keep to them. However I did once see the
French police having a field day with UK registered sports cars on the road to Le Mans when the racing was on.A few years ago a couple of fancy sports cars came past us on the A26, at a horrendous velocity. We were not towing and had the cruise control set at 130 kph and it was as though we were standing still. The speed was certainly comparible to when we have
been passed by the TGV, in areas where motorway and rail run together. At the next peage they were in deep discussion with the police. I assume the booths record the time you pass and if you get to the next one and it flags an average of 260 kph or so, you
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As I spend 4 months a year on the continent I am surprised I have never seen all those foreign police persecuting British caravanners and they certainly have never targeted me but then I know the limits and try to keep to them. However I did once see the French police having a field day with UK registered sports cars on the road to Le Mans when the racing was on.
A few years ago a couple of fancy sports cars came past us on the A26, at a horrendous velocity. We were not towing and had the cruise control set at 130 kph and it was as though we were standing still. The speed was certainly comparible to when we have been passed by the TGV, in areas where motorway and rail run together. At the next peage they were in deep discussion with the police. I assume the booths record the time you pass and if you get to the next one and it flags an average of 260 kph or so, you would not have a leg to stand on.
Write your comments here...I'd heard that you can reach the UK national speed limit of 70 mph in second gear with a Porche! I'm not sure how well it would perform as a towcar though!
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coming to work this morning on the M20, a 4x4 towing a trailor full of sheep went passed me in the 3rd lane
, when it was safe
to do so i followed it at a safe distance and the indecated speed on my sat-nav was ......82mph
Now ,iv'e heard of fast food ,but............
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coming to work this morning on the M20, a 4x4 towing a trailor full of sheep went passed me in the 3rd lane
, when it was safe
to do so i followed it at a safe distance and the indecated speed on my sat-nav was ......82mphNow ,iv'e heard of fast food ,but............
Write your comments here...
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coming to work this morning on the M20, a 4x4 towing a trailor full of sheep went passed me in the 3rd lane
, when it was safe
to do so i followed it at a safe distance and the indecated speed on my sat-nav was ......82mphNow ,iv'e heard of fast food ,but............
Write your comments here...Fast and fresh from what you say! They're livestock. You can't get much fresher than that!
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coming to work this morning on the M20, a 4x4 towing a trailor full of sheep went passed me in the 3rd lane
, when it was safe
to do so i followed it at a safe distance and the indecated speed on my sat-nav was ......82mphNow ,iv'e heard of fast food ,but............
Write your comments here... That is just plain stupid, the sheep were probably tightly packed but even so any serious movement at that speed could be a disaster and it certainly shows no respect for the sheep.
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I witnessed an accident many years ago on the awful road up Loch Lomond to Crianlarich - a sheep transporter had overturned - and all the sheep on the top deck were thrown out - seems it was only licenced to carry the number that were inside the truck!
The sheep on the M20 were lucky to survive if they did - and the driver should be taken to the knackers yard - grrrrr.
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I also use the M20 for my daily commute...it is not unusual to see a vehicle towing a trailer in lane three!!!(only at speed either on a friday morning or after the "rush hour"!!!!!....the offending vehicles are usually ,but not always,foreign registered,unless
you count irish as english!!!!what is unusual is to see a police motorway traffic car policing!!!!!!0 -
I find it's usually best to add extra time to what the satnav indicates. The satnav doesn't take into account stops or other possible delays.
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My Co Pilot sat nav enables the user to set required speeds for different road classifications so us have them set at 10Mph below the speed limits upto A Maximum of 50mph. That ensures ETA's are always sufficiently conservative to allow for stops/traffic
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My satnav is nine years old and can't even recognise post codes.
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My satnav is nine years old and can't even recognise post codes.
I'm not suprised, I couldn't either at that age.
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A few years ago a couple of fancy sports cars came past us on the A26, at a horrendous velocity. We were not towing and had the cruise control set at 130 kph and it was as though we were standing still. The speed was certainly comparible to when we have been passed by the TGV, in areas where motorway and rail run together. At the next peage they were in deep discussion with the police. I assume the booths record the time you pass and if you get to the next one and it flags an average of 260 kph or so, you would not have a leg to stand on.
I regularly drive at speeds in excess of 200km/h when I visit my daughter because there is usually very little traffic on that stretch of motorway, but that's legal over here in Germany.
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I regularly drive at speeds in excess of 200km/h when I visit my daughter because there is usually very little traffic on that stretch of motorway, but that's legal over here in Germany.
Now that should give the DPF a decent burn through.
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on occasions when passing a convoy of trucks I have exceeded the 60mph limit so as not to cause a tailback so presumably I am also tarred by your descriptive name calling
I have to say, I am guilty of this too, but I don't do it very often! One problem is that if you 'legally' overtake a truck at the correct speed, it is not always possible to see what is in front. If there is a line of trucks, one problem is that many
of these trucks drive so close to the one in front. To try and 'nose in' can be a little dangerous and not all that desirable!David
Good point and I have done same to get past a line (now have motor home but when a van it was well matched to my car at less than 80%) It might be over the legal limit but if you slow down to drop behind the HGVs have to overtake you which is also wrong.
I also find same on traffic lights changing to red, when approaching I almost always look in mirror and sometimes go over on amber because the car 3 feet of my tail would more than likely not stop even if I can just pull up.
The letter of the law and spirit of law are separate things and sometimes it can be safer to let the letter drift a bit to avoid a collision, of course there are many drivers reading will have a better solution thinking about it after but in the moment when
you are overtaking or the lights change or some other event on the road occurs you have a split second to decide on best action.That is why in good old days a copper would let you off so long as you were not being an idiot were as today with cameras it is automatic, no room for a warning.
When I am at 60 on cruse control my sat nav says I am at 55 I am inclined to believe it as HGVs crawl past me and they are restricted so I used to sit at 65 on Speedo and all was well.
Just my thoughts and I could be wrong
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Whilst travelling at 60 on the M4 a car passed me, doing at least 75 as he was overtaking cars in the middle lane. He had an old trailer attached with a boat on it. After a further 3 miles or so there he was stopped, with the trailer's axle broken off. Fortunately,
someone had stopped to assist him as it saved me having to decide to help him as part of me was saying "serves you right" And before I get lambasted, of course I would have helped.0 -
on occasions when passing a convoy of trucks I have exceeded the 60mph limit so as not to cause a tailback so presumably I am also tarred by your descriptive name calling
I have to say, I am guilty of this too, but I don't do it very often! One problem is that if you 'legally' overtake a truck at the correct speed, it is not always possible to see what is in front. If there is a line of trucks, one problem is that many
of these trucks drive so close to the one in front. To try and 'nose in' can be a little dangerous and not all that desirable!David
Good point and I have done same to get past a line (now have motor home but when a van it was well matched to my car at less than 80%) It might be over the legal limit but if you slow down to drop behind the HGVs have to overtake you which is also wrong.
I also find same on traffic lights changing to red, when approaching I almost always look in mirror and sometimes go over on amber because the car 3 feet of my tail would more than likely not stop even if I can just pull up.
The letter of the law and spirit of law are separate things and sometimes it can be safer to let the letter drift a bit to avoid a collision, of course there are many drivers reading will have a better solution thinking about it after but in the moment when
you are overtaking or the lights change or some other event on the road occurs you have a split second to decide on best action.That is why in good old days a copper would let you off so long as you were not being an idiot were as today with cameras it is automatic, no room for a warning.
When I am at 60 on cruse control my sat nav says I am at 55 I am inclined to believe it as HGVs crawl past me and they are restricted so I used to sit at 65 on Speedo and all was well.
Just my thoughts and I could be
on occasions when passing a convoy of trucks I have exceeded the 60mph limit so as not to cause a tailback so presumably I am also tarred by your descriptive name calling
I have to say, I am guilty of this too, but I don't do it very often! One problem is that if you 'legally' overtake a truck at the correct speed, it is not always possible to see what is in front. If there is a line of trucks, one problem is that many
of these trucks drive so close to the one in front. To try and 'nose in' can be a little dangerous and not all that desirable!David
Good point and I have done same to get past a line (now have motor home but when a van it was well matched to my car at less than 80%) It might be over the legal limit but if you slow down to drop behind the HGVs have to overtake you which is also wrong.
I also find same on traffic lights changing to red, when approaching I almost always look in mirror and sometimes go over on amber because the car 3 feet of my tail would more than likely not stop even if I can just pull up.
The letter of the law and spirit of law are separate things and sometimes it can be safer to let the letter drift a bit to avoid a collision, of course there are many drivers reading will have a better solution thinking about it after but in the moment when
you are overtaking or the lights change or some other event on the road occurs you have a split second to decide on best action.That is why in good old days a copper would let you off so long as you were not being an idiot were as today with cameras it is automatic, no room for a warning.
When I am at 60 on cruse control my sat nav says I am at 55 I am inclined to believe it as HGVs crawl past me and they are restricted so I used to sit at 65 on Speedo and all was well.
Just my thoughts and I could be wrong
The maximum speed for trucks is 56 mph. This odd figure is caused by translating the EU regulations in kph into mph. If you are regularly being passed by them at an indicated 60 then your speedo is reading far too high although the odd one might be going
a bit faster as even things like changing old tyres for new will alter the accuracy.0 -
The maximum speed for trucks is 56 mph. This odd figure is caused by translating the EU regulations in kph into mph. If you are regularly being passed by them at an indicated 60 then your speedo is reading far too high although the odd one might be going
a bit faster as even things like changing old tyres for new will alter the accuracy.Tyre size on my Kia Sorento is so critical even tiny differences’ in wear will trick the 4 wheel drive into working, most the owners have like me fitted a mod to switch the automatic 4 wheel drive of completely it is so bad. A variation off 0.5 of a mm on
the Dia of a tyre makes a lot of difference to the circumference and so the Speedo reading.I have found all my cars Speedo reads over compared to sat nav but then again I can’t really check the sat nav so could be anything. My old Galaxy was closest to sat nav at 3mph under at 60 (and I never got passed by HGVs as I remember)
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It's 60 mph speed limit for a reason. It's simply not safe to go faster than that. There is a greater risk of snaking or tail wagging the dog as some would say at higher speeds. Below 60 is much safer.
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It's 60 mph speed limit for a reason. It's simply not safe to go faster than that. There is a greater risk of snaking or tail wagging the dog as some would say at higher speeds. Below 60 is much safer.
Basically you are correct, but 60mph is a generalisation. Some outfits may not recover from an unstable condition without some sort of intervention already at speeds of about 50mph, others may be quite docile at 70mph. Fact is, you can't please all the people all of the time. However, 60mph is a good compromise for an outift that is technically sound and a competent driver.
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