British caravans
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Which is why a floating currency is such an advantage over the inflexible euro. No Greece like financial crashes requiring bale outs.
With such a competitive advantage British caravan manufacturers are able to fill their boots with export orders before the currency rises. But they need to get a move on.
Of course there are strong arguments for the currency to fall further as well as for it to rise.
Interesting times
Isn't may you live in interesting times a Chinese curse?
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Which is why a floating currency is such an advantage over the inflexible euro. No Greece like financial crashes requiring bale outs.
With such a competitive advantage British caravan manufacturers are able to fill their boots with export orders before the currency rises. But they need to get a move on.
Of course there are strong arguments for the currency to fall further as well as for it to rise.
Interesting times
Isn't may you live in interesting times a Chinese curse?
I think you may be right on that one.
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Which is why a floating currency is such an advantage over the inflexible euro. No Greece like financial crashes requiring bale outs.
With such a competitive advantage British caravan manufacturers are able to fill their boots with export orders before the currency rises. But they need to get a move on.
Of course there are strong arguments for the currency to fall further as well as for it to rise.
Interesting times
Plus of course charge much more for them in this country as well, ( above the value of the dearer European components used) because imported vans will be so much more expensive.
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Yes I am sure they will Steve but it's up to the customer to say no and negotiate a better price. I bet they have a fair old margin built in.
It will all stabillise eventually but on balance if I was looking to buy a car or caravan in the next couple of years I would give real consideration to buying now (ish)
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Which is why a floating currency is such an advantage over the inflexible euro. No Greece like financial crashes requiring bale outs.
With such a competitive advantage British caravan manufacturers are able to fill their boots with export orders before the currency rises. But they need to get a move on.
Of course there are strong arguments for the currency to fall further as well as for it to rise.
Interesting times
Isn't may you live in interesting times a Chinese curse?
...You could be right, as they have their fingers in most pies these days
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Lets face manufacturer's don't need much of an excuse to rip us off put prices up and blame the pound never saw them putting price down when pound was high one way street springs to mind
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Which is why a floating currency is such an advantage over the inflexible euro. No Greece like financial crashes requiring bale outs.
With such a competitive advantage British caravan manufacturers are able to fill their boots with export orders before the currency rises. But they need to get a move on.
Of course there are strong arguments for the currency to fall further as well as for it to rise.
Interesting times
A bit of a double whammy though. Most British caravans are full of foreign bits so they will rise in price. Imported ones will also have to charge for labour at a higher figure so might rise in price even more. The only person who will benefit is the chancellor
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There are big margins on all LVs so there is plenty of haggle room, if you stand your ground ,and do your homework before hand
I'm not convinced that there is that much profit. It always strikes me as a bit hand to mouth. Which why I believe that some quality issues seem slow to solve.
I should be an opportunity for British manufacturers lets hope that they take it.
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There are big margins on all LVs so there is plenty of haggle room, if you stand your ground ,and do your homework before hand
I'm not convinced that there is that much profit. It always strikes me as a bit hand to mouth. Which why I believe that some quality issues seem slow to solve.
I should be an opportunity for British manufacturers lets hope that they take it.
I was wrong. We do sometimes agree
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Not sure BB, did not see it, but we are not bothered about a garage, just a reasonable amount of storage, so did not pay particular attention to those with that facility.
Steve, have you looked at the Bursner range of M/H's
We currently have a Bailey 625SE, but IF we were to think about changing then the Bursner Nexxo Sovereign range is high on our list. The prices are not extortionate and the build is good.
The Nexxo Sovereign has 3 models T690G which is twin singles over a garage (which your not bothered about) the T720 is twin singles, end bathroom the singles are at a good height not low but not high(no step needed) this gives fantastic storage underneath, the T740 has an Island bed with split bathroom either side of the van forward of the bedroom, both the T740/720 have the same layout up front.
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There are big margins on all LVs so there is plenty of haggle room, if you stand your ground ,and do your homework before hand
I'm not convinced that there is that much profit. It always strikes me as a bit hand to mouth. Which why I believe that some quality issues seem slow to solve.
I should be an opportunity for British manufacturers lets hope that they take it.
I was wrong. We do sometimes agree
Oh dear time for me to reassess my position
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I was "invited" to the "show" yesterday to talk to a company that i had been in "conversation " with, to have a "chat",so not one to turn something like that down,let the "train take the strain"to visit,
One problem that is prevalant these days is the culture of "we have not had a problem reported" by companies ,until things get "hot"(ie VW),
I decided that not only the one company but two other I had recieved the above responses from were my "targets",
It worked, as when given the evidence two of the
three held their hands up with a great result, and the third a promise to take evidence back after the show ,and would contact me with an answer
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Not sure BB, did not see it, but we are not bothered about a garage, just a reasonable amount of storage, so did not pay particular attention to those with that facility.
Steve, have you looked at the Bursner range of M/H's
We currently have a Bailey 625SE, but IF we were to think about changing then the Bursner Nexxo Sovereign range is high on our list. The prices are not extortionate and the build is good.
The Nexxo Sovereign has 3 models T690G which is twin singles over a garage (which your not bothered about) the T720 is twin singles, end bathroom the singles are at a good height not low but not high(no step needed) this gives fantastic storage underneath,
the T740 has an Island bed with split bathroom either side of the van forward of the bedroom, both the T740/720 have the same layout up front.Thanks TG I will have a look at those. Early days yet, ideally we won't be changing for a few years, but you never know. To date we have concentrated on makes we can get from dealers locally but have not ruled anything out.
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I agree.
British industry in general needs to book some seats on aircraft and get out into the world and sell their products. The current exchange rate is a gift.
Write your comments here...Their order books always appear to be full selling into their home market, if you are up to capacity, what incentive is there to sell abroad ! Even if it is good for the country.
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I agree.
British industry in general needs to book some seats on aircraft and get out into the world and sell their products. The current exchange rate is a gift.
Write your comments here...Their order books always appear to be full selling into their home market, if you are up to capacity, what incentive is there to sell abroad ! Even if it is good for the country.
I tend to agree. To sell abroad would mean a massive investment into an uncertain market. Swift and Elddis already export to Holland and Swift also to Denmark but I doubt its a significant market that would warrant major investment. The future is motorhomes
but again UK manufacturers can;'t produce enough to satisfy home demand. The idea that Swift and Bailey could suddenly become a big player in Europe or elsewhwere in the world is a bit fanciful especially in these uncertain times.David
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Shipping back those needing a factory rebuild could be a strain on the business
...Do as Bailey have done, open an assembly facility in Australia to cater for that market,and send out "kits",same as we do in this country with things as just opened in NE England
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Shipping back those needing a factory rebuild could be a strain on the business
...Do as Bailey have done, open an assembly facility in Australia to cater for that market,and send out "kits",same as we do in this country with things as just opened in NE England
Write your comments here...I saw the Australian model at the show and it certainly looked much more spacious and impressive than the UK models.
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After reading lots of reviews on all british caravan manufacturer's and having owned several myself it seams the workmanship is going down hill it is going the same way as the old british car company's and we know the outcome of that but unless they start
improving especially bailey there will only be one outcome the end of british built caravan sWrite your comments here...we looked to buy a new van earlier in the summer and having viewed several different manufacturers offerings, we came to the conclusion that they were very flimsy affairs. in the end we bought ourselves a Hobby. Yes the door is
on the wrong side, and you dont on the majority of models get a full bathroom ie a shower. But you get a well built and much more solid van. You are also able to speck the van to your liking. We paid a lot less than a UK manufacturer would have charged a greatly
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Thats a bit of a sweeping asumption,considering the amount of c/vans built and sold in the UK,compared to the "problems" some seem to find,the majority of parts fitted to all LVs these days are made in mainland europe,whose builders do not give anywhere
near as long a warranty as UK makersWrite your comments here...I got a 5year warranty with my Hobby how long do UK manufacturers give
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Thats a bit of a sweeping asumption,considering the amount of c/vans built and sold in the UK,compared to the "problems" some seem to find,the majority of parts fitted to all LVs these days are made in mainland europe,whose builders do not give anywhere
near as long a warranty as UK makersWrite your comments here...I got a 5year warranty with my Hobby how long do UK manufacturers give
Write your comments here...
Swift give a 10 year warranty, Baily also do a 10 year warranty if you pay a supplement, most do 5 years like your Hobby.
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Thats a bit of a sweeping asumption,considering the amount of c/vans built and sold in the UK,compared to the "problems" some seem to find,the majority of parts fitted to all LVs these days are made in mainland europe,whose builders do not give anywhere
near as long a warranty as UK makersWrite your comments here...I got a 5year warranty with my Hobby how long do UK manufacturers give
Write your comments here...
Swift give a 10 year warranty, Baily also do a 10 year warranty if you pay a supplement, most do 5 years like your Hobby.
I have not checked the Hobby warranty but most exclude a lot of bought in parts and only give you the one given by the parts manufacturer which is usually one year. The full length of the warranty usually is only for water ingress though.
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