Jockey wheels - am I missing something?

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  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #32

     Why are you people so afraid of a little exercise?

    Worth mentioning for those who don't know that winding the steadies is of the form of exercise that often can promote a heart attack.  So if you are trying to bump off your O.H. keep hiding the power drill!

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited September 2016 #33

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    ...erm why JVB66?

    http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/premium-jockey-wheel.html

    I have this one (is this the same as yours?) I cannot see anything in the book about it not being suitable to take weight when pitched and I have alwaysed used it that way (let me know if you have documentation to show I have been using it incorrectly please).

    Its good for 300kg static load (more than most standard wheels @150-200kg) and good for 180kg dydnamic load (again vs 90-120kg), so I see no reason why!?!

     

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #34

     Why are you people so afraid of a little exercise?

    Worth mentioning for those who don't know that winding the steadies is of the form of exercise that often can promote a heart attack.  So if you are trying to bump off your O.H. keep hiding the power drill!

    Note to self:  Christmas box List: Cordless Power Drill.



  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #35

    Electric Drills for winding down Steadies!!!! Frown. What on earth is wrong with the manual crank handle supplied with the van?  Why are you people so afraid of a little exercise? Cool

    I am happy to use a drill with preset torque. Now my arthritis is bad it is a boon

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #36

    I just see battery drills for steadies as something else to take with you & remember to keep charged. I'm prepared to change my mind when age catches up with me Wink

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited September 2016 #37

    If the weight is on the towball, undo the clamp and rotate the upper part (with the two cut outs) to mate with the bottom part as you wind it up.  Then pull the whole lot up and secure.

    Surely the easies way to line them up is to do it when the van is unhitched and resting on the steadies, either as soon as you're settled on site of just prior to winding up the steadies prior to hitching up. The only time a problem might arise is if you're
    pitch on a backward sloping pitch and you have to have the towbar nearly on the ground to ensure that the van is level.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited September 2016 #38

     Why are you people so afraid of a little exercise?

    Worth mentioning for those who don't know that winding the steadies is of the form of exercise that often can promote a heart attack.  So if you are trying to bump off your O.H. keep hiding the power drill!

    You are joking of course, aren't you. There's nothing strenuous in winding up/down a steady, surely.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited September 2016 #39

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    Surely the very nature of the beast is to take the static weight of the caravan, or how else does it register the nose weight?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #40

    I'm still not sure whether I understand the question Undecided

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #41

    Was that Question 1; Question 2; Question 3A; Question 3B; or did I miss some out?

  • AutoAddict
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    edited September 2016 #42

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    Oh yes it is!

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #43

    I just see battery drills for steadies as something else to take with you & remember to keep charged. I'm prepared to change my mind when age catches up with me Wink

    "It's behind you"

  • rovinmad
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    edited September 2016 #44

    Electric Drills for winding down Steadies!!!! Frown. What on earth is wrong with the manual crank handle supplied with the van?  Why are you
    people so afraid of a little exercise? Cool

    Write your comments here...

    I used to think like that before I had a twenty year break with motor homes.  When I went back to a caravan I had forgotten how much bending there is to do.  It isn't the winding that's the problem so much as the time spent bent over.  A rechargeable drill
    is many times quicker.  You will probably understand given enough time unless you are lucky enough to escape joint problems.

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited September 2016 #45

    Jockey wheels? Grooves? Noseweight? Steadies? Powerdrills? Gauges? Motor movers? Crank handles?

    I think I'll stick with the Motorhome.

    Much less hassle and stress.

     

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #46

    …”You will probably understand given enough time unless you are lucky enough to escape joint problems”. 

    And who’s to say that I am not already of certain age and do not already have such problems.

    My Maxim is ‘use it or lose it’ pain or no pain.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #47

    …”You will probably understand given enough time unless you are lucky enough to escape joint problems”. 

    And who’s to say that I am not already of certain age and do not already have such problems.

    My Maxim is ‘use it or lose it’ pain or no pain.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #48

    Double post above not intended.

  • rovinmad
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    edited September 2016 #49

     

     

    …”You will probably understand given enough time unless you are lucky enough to escape joint problems”. 

    And who’s to say that I am not already of certain age and do not already have such problems.

    My Maxim is ‘use it or lose it’ pain or no pain.

    Write your comments here...

    Well good for you then.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #50

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    ...erm why JVB66?

    http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/premium-jockey-wheel.html

    I have this one (is this the same as yours?) I cannot see anything in the book about it not being suitable to take weight when pitched and I have alwaysed used it that way (let me know if you have documentation to show I have been using it incorrectly please).

    Its good for 300kg static load (more than most standard wheels @150-200kg) and good for 180kg dydnamic load (again vs 90-120kg), so I see no reason why!?!

     

    ..Because it is a sprung loaded scale,when i was working (can just remember that far back) to stop spring tension loss it was always keep tension off after use

  • Pippah45
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    edited September 2016 #51

    I haven't read all this thread but I was struggling with the Octavia and ended up fitting a removable jockey wheel

     Now the tow ball is higher on the Outlander I have put the jockey wheel back in regular position.  Only occasionally have to be careful on slopes.

  • AutoAddict
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    edited September 2016 #52

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    ...erm why JVB66?

    http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/premium-jockey-wheel.html

    I have this one (is this the same as yours?) I cannot see anything in the book about it not being suitable to take weight when pitched and I have alwaysed used it that way (let me know if you have documentation to show I have been using it incorrectly please).

    Its good for 300kg static load (more than most standard wheels @150-200kg) and good for 180kg dydnamic load (again vs 90-120kg), so I see no reason why!?!

     

    ..Because it is a sprung loaded scale,when i was working (can just remember that far back) to stop spring tension loss it was always keep tension off after use

    Yet Al-Ko recomend this jockey wheel if you have a mover!

    Ooops, I've just thought, my car has coil springs all round, do I need to jack up all four wheels when I park it to relieve the tension on the springs..........

    Makes mental note to buy four jacks....

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #53

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    ...erm why JVB66?

    http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/premium-jockey-wheel.html

    I have this one (is this the same as yours?) I cannot see anything in the book about it not being suitable to take weight when pitched and I have alwaysed used it that way (let me know if you have documentation to show I have been using it incorrectly please).

    Its good for 300kg static load (more than most standard wheels @150-200kg) and good for 180kg dydnamic load (again vs 90-120kg), so I see no reason why!?!

     

    ..Because it is a sprung loaded scale,when i was working (can just remember that far back) to stop spring tension loss it was always keep tension off after use

    Yet Al-Ko recomend this jockey wheel if you have a mover!

    Ooops, I've just thought, my car has coil springs all round, do I need to jack up all four wheels when I park it to relieve the tension on the springs..........

    Makes mental note to buy four jacks....

    ...But your car springs are not scales as is the case with the Alco jockey wheel,and it is only used for a couple of minutes,not used as an additional support stressing the Scales

  • nicko
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    edited September 2016 #54

    The jocky wheel we have from Alko has a built in noseweight gauge so is not designed to take any weight when pitched

    ...erm why JVB66?

    http://www.al-ko.co.uk/pages/premium-jockey-wheel.html

    I have this one (is this the same as yours?) I cannot see anything in the book about it not being suitable to take weight when pitched and I have alwaysed used it that way (let me know if you have documentation to show I have been using it incorrectly please).

    Its good for 300kg static load (more than most standard wheels @150-200kg) and good for 180kg dydnamic load (again vs 90-120kg), so I see no reason why!?!

     

    ..Because it is a sprung loaded scale,when i was working (can just remember that far back) to stop spring tension loss it was always keep tension off after use

    Yet Al-Ko recomend this jockey wheel if you have a mover!

    Ooops, I've just thought, my car has coil springs all round, do I need to jack up all four wheels when I park it to relieve the tension on the springs..........

    Makes mental note to buy four jacks....

    ...But your car springs are not scales as is the case with the Alco jockey wheel,and it is only used for a couple of minutes,not used as an additional support stressing the Scales

    exactly the same reason why you wind back torque wrenches back to zero after use, given that all you careful and responsible people use one to check your wheel nuts!!!!

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #55

    ..."wind back torque wrenches back to zero after use, given that all you careful and responsible people use one to check your wheel nuts!!!!"

    Certainly do !!!! Innocent

  • Surfer
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    edited September 2016 #56

    Electric Drills for winding down Steadies!!!! Frown. What on earth is wrong with the manual crank handle supplied with the van?  Why are you
    people so afraid of a little exercise? Cool

    Obviously you do not have an issue with arthritis?

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #57

    It's the twenty first century. 

    Of course I don't wind steadies anymore same as I don’t use a genny when solar panels are available. 

    I am looking for an app to lower the steadies from my smartphone. It's coming folks 

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2016 #58

    It's the twenty first century. 

    Of course I don't wind steadys anymore same as I don’t use a genny when solar panels are available. 

    I am looking for an app to lower the steadies from my smartphone. It's coming folks 

     

    + 1  doesn't one the Eldis high range vans have automatic side to side leveling then winds the steadies down for you?

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #59

    Electric Drills for winding down Steadies!!!! Frown. What on earth is wrong with the manual crank handle supplied with the van?  Why are you
    people so afraid of a little exercise? Cool

    Obviously you do not have an issue with arthritis?

    ...+1Frown

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2016 #60

    I am looking for an app to lower the steadies from my smartphone. It's coming folks 

    I haven't got steadies but then my phone is two years old.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited September 2016 #61

    Electric Drills for winding down Steadies!!!! Frown. What on earth is wrong with the manual crank handle supplied with the van?  Why are you
    people so afraid of a little exercise? Cool

    Obviously you do not have an issue with arthritis?

    ...+1Frown

    Entirely an assumption on your part!!!