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  • huskydog
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    Oh dear ,it looks like we've wondered off topicSurprised

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  • Wildwood
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    The generator in a tent is potentialy fatal, the rest are dangerous to say the least. It is just beyond belief what some people do. Having said that our first caravan had no heater and we did use the gas hob a couple of times to warm it up but only for very
    short periods.

  • Tinwheeler
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    I guess that proves TDA's point. 

    Actually, off lead and running loose aren't the same thing. 

    They are in my book. Dogs are not permitted on the beachs we use but some tend to ignore the rules and having to watch your feet on the sands is not pleasant.

    Off lead means not tethered but they can, and should be, still under control. Running loose means just that - running out of control. See, it's not the same.

    It sounds like you don't go to the best choice of beaches. Or maybe you're referring to some not in this country.

    Of course its not in this country why would I want to do that?

    BTW This is the Caravan Chat section not UK sites so dont try your usual trick of shutting down any comment you dont like  by trying to dismiss anything non UK

    What on earth are you talking about? Are you crediting me with super powers again? 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    The generator in a tent is potentialy fatal, the rest are dangerous to say the least. It is just beyond belief what some people do.
    Having said that our first caravan had no heater and we did use the gas hob a couple of times to warm it up but only for very short periods.

    That is not that dangerous WW.  The only by product of properly burnt LPG is water (lots of condensation).  It may not smell that good though due to the nasty aroma added by the producer to ensure you can smell a leak.

    I guess that's why gas lights were safe.

    Oh, the dreaded gas mantles!

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2016 #40

    Our Cotswold has a gas mantle in it! Just the one, and it used to be an annual event where OH decided to try it out. Every year was the same, burnt fingers and some choice words! Laughing

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  • Tinwheeler
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    Just for safetys sake I will be a little more detailed.

    Like any hydrocarbon, propane when completely burnt produces carbon dioxide and water; these are not too bad, although it could be argued that it is possible without ventilation to use up enough oxygen and produce enough carbon dioxide to suffocate anyone
    in the van.  Complete combustion never happens in the real world, and so you end up with partial combustion products of which the worst is carbon monoxide, which combines readily with the hemoglobin in the blood, displacing oxygen and suffocating the victim
    from the inside. This is how people die in fires, from car exhaust, and so on, but used as WW described the danger is not great.  

    Hence the many vents in caravans with warnings not to cover them.

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  • Navigateur
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    I don't disagree with you Navigateur except to say that the 6m rules is based upon some research and experimentation that took place in nearly 50 years ago and which is long over due for checking and possible revision.  

    Careful!  Dont go saying that too widely or we will have the 9 meter rule instead!

    Is there a CL at Cardington?

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  • nelliethehooker
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    Been there, done that too TW!Yell

  • Tinwheeler
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    Been there, done that too TW!Yell

    Ah, those were the days but thank goodness they've gone!

  • Vicmallows
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    In the days of primus stoves (remember those - paraffin fuel and meths to light them) .

    Clearly not many backpackers in CC.  Petrol stoves -preheated by a little bit of petrol in the recess at the top - are still a mainstay, especially if camping in sub-zero conditions.  They certainly need to be used with common sense, but I have never heard
    of a backpacker setting fire to his tent. (On a site though you do get some worried looks when you first light it!).

  • Vicmallows
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    I remember that too...from when I was about 10! . But it's interesting that the 'silk' mantles now used in portable gaz-type lanterns (the sort you have to 'burn' when you install a new one) don't seem to shatter in the same way, even though much more fragile. 
    The one in our lantern is now about 4 years old and has survived numerous car journeys.

  • nelliethehooker
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    In the days of primus stoves (remember those - paraffin fuel and meths to light them) .

    Clearly not many backpackers in CC.  Petrol stoves -preheated by a little bit of petrol in the recess at the top - are still a mainstay, especially if camping in sub-zero conditions.  They certainly need to be used with common sense, but I have never heard
    of a backpacker setting fire to his tent. (On a site though you do get some worried looks when you first light it!).

    Does nearly happen,Vic. When in the scouts we were camping in the snow and I was in the tent with a scout leader. He tried to change the gas cyclinder on our stove while trying to keep the stove alight. As you might guess the new cyclinder did not puncture
    correctly so the gas escaped and caught alight. Fortunately we managed to get it out of the tent before anything disasterous happened, but I think that he decided never to try that again.Surprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    I remember that too...from when I was about 10! . But it's interesting that the 'silk' mantles now used in portable gaz-type lanterns (the sort you have to 'burn' when you install a new one) don't seem to shatter in the same way, even though much more fragile. 
    The one in our lantern is now about 4 years old and has survived numerous car journeys.

    10? That sure makes me feel goodSad.

    We were using gas only vans until the late 80s.

  • EasyT
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    Been there, done that too TW!Yell

    Ah, those were the days but thank goodness they've gone!

    I liked the mantles. In my first van they were the main heat source. We had that van for over 9 years. Used regularly and only one replacement mantle

  • Tinwheeler
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    The mantles didn't last any time at all as they became brittle when burnt and as soon as the van was moved they fell off and became a heap of powdery bits.Smile

    Been there, done that too TW!Yell

    Ah, those were the days but thank goodness they've gone!

    I liked the mantles. In my first van they were the main heat source. We had that van for over 9 years. Used regularly and only one replacement mantle

    Wow, that's going some. You're right about the heat output. We  did top up the heat with a free standing paraffin heater when it snowed. H&S hadn't been invented then!

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  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #56

    We had a mantle on our first caravan as well as battery powered lights. The mantles were more trouble than they were worth.

  • EasyT
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    We had a mantle on our first caravan as well as battery powered lights. The mantles were more trouble than they were worth.

    We had mantles for around 10 years, caravanned regularly and only had to replace one. There were two as far as I recall