Motorhomes & carparks

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  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #32

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    I believe it was a group of friends, not 'Travellers', that had met up again for a birthday ..... they've done it before apparently

    Thanks for that clarification. No difference really as they are still a group of people who think that regulations don't apply to them and whose actions reflect badly on everyone else.

    Graham

    Agreed. And they hogged a complete carpark for a week end depriving Joe Public of limited parking, especially as the weather was very nice.

  • mhparking
    mhparking Forum Participant Posts: 155
    edited June 2016 #33

    Agreed. And they hogged a complete carpark for a week end depriving Joe Public of limited parking, especially as the weather was very nice.

    Idiots. Bet they will be the first to whinge if the council puts in height barriers.

  • TheBairn
    TheBairn Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited June 2016 #34

    Last year I went to check my canal boat and found a motorhome in the car park overlooking the berth. Only problem was he'd jumped the gate to the mooring pontoon and had plugged in to a neighbours card operated power bollard.  Very ingenious if a bit cheeky!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #35

    That's more than cheeky!

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #36

    not condoning the 'cheek of it' but, if it was card operated, wouldnt he have needed a 'pre paid' card (or similar) to get anything out?

    back to the topic, i dont have a problem with MH overnighting occasionally on the street, ive done it myself in Portsmouth, Dover etc but have always complied with local sineage etc.

    surely the way to stop 'continuous/extended' staying is to add something like 'no return within 24hrs' on the sineage?

    just as cars are subjected to this sort of rule in town centres, it ensures that when the initial period is up, the vehicle has to leave for a specific period....

    the 'sledgehammer' of a total ban seems OTT in many situations. a few tickets on overstayers would sort out the cheif offenders and allow the casual user to park within the rules.

  • mhparking
    mhparking Forum Participant Posts: 155
    edited June 2016 #37

    surely the way to stop 'continuous/extended' staying is to add something like 'no return within 24hrs' on the sineage?

    Restrictions aimed at preventing camping, as opposed to parking, tend to be of that variety. Total bans tend to be used where the structure of the car park is not designed for regular use by heavy vehicles or the layout makes it unsafe for use by large vehicles.

    Graham

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #38

    i guess youre right Graham....could weight limits be a way forward, say under 7.5t which would mirror most user license maximums...?

    it just seems to me that other conditions could be imposed which acheive the aim (no long term abuse of the area) without resorting to a total ban...

  • mhparking
    mhparking Forum Participant Posts: 155
    edited June 2016 #39

    i guess youre right Graham....could weight limits be a way forward, say under 7.5t which would mirror most user license maximums...?

    it just seems to me that other conditions could be imposed which acheive the aim (no long term abuse of the area) without resorting to a total ban...

    Total bans are already achieved by weight limits in some cases. Many car park orders still have the old 30 cwt (1500 Kg) limit even though the Road Traffic Regulation Act motor car definition has since been amended to a 3050 Kg maximum unladen weight. The
    reason is that the car parks were built years ago to standards which have a maximum 2 tonne usage expectation.

    Most motorhomes fit within the current unladen weight definition of a motor car but many can't meet the requirement for parking in a single bay.

    With the size of cars in general getting bigger it is an increasing problem for LAs to accommodate them in their car parks. Even harder is telling whether a vehicle is over the weight limit. It's easy for a parking officer to guess that a Ducato based motorhome
    is overweight (especially with a plate on its side) but not a large hatchback.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2016 #40

    Taking a break every 2 hours isn't difficult to factor in, we do that when travelling from Scotland to the ferry ports. We always get an overnight crossing so avoid the where do we spend the  night problem. However there are lots of ferries that arrive in
    the UK at unsuitable hours (for us)  to late to get into a site for the night or even a CL, so what are the choices left to drivers who are tired from the crossing, some ports allow you to stay there but would you actually get any sleep? I guess that's why
    so many drive so far up the road then look for a quite place to spend the night. Of course if your arriving in France/Spain at 3am its not a problem is itWink