Coiling Hook-up Cable

hitchglitch
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edited March 2016 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

I coil the cable up by looping it over my shoulder and hand and use a glove as I grab the cable with the other hand to remove moisture or mud. I then store it in a circular shaped bag. The problem is that it gets twisted and I find that I am fighting the
'set' in the cable every time. No room for a cable reel in the new vehicle. Anybody got a foolproof method for avoiding the twists?it's very frustrating.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2016 #2

    I'm trying to visualise the action. Sounds like a way to dislocate something. I coil mine from hand to hand which givres a coil of just over a metre diameter. I'm left handed and coil from the right hand to the left hand, giving the cable a slight twist as I pass it to the left hand. That results in a relatively kink-free coil. Basically I'm using the same method as when I coiled rope on my boat.

  • volvoman9
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    edited March 2016 #3

    When i was an apprentice spark i got a real telling off for coiling up cable in the way you describe Sad cable is very prone to twisting so the best way is too coil it up in the same way a cowboy would coil a rope up as a lasoo because he cant afford any twists or it just wont work Happy.Hold the end in the left hand and draw in the cable with your right hand and as you form each loop you take out any twist by rolling it through your fingers.You can tell if there are any twists by how the cable forms as you place the loop into the left hand.Dont try too loop in into small loops keep them around 18in in diameter or even bigger..Also have the cable stretched out on the floor before you start and as you draw it in most of the twist will disappear as the cable rotates as it is dragged along.If its in a bundle this cant happen.Another good tip is that when you come too use it again roll out the cable as if you were rolling a wheel in front of you.This all goes towards keeping twists out of the cable which is where all your problems start.This may sound a little complicated but its very simple in practice.I hope this helps.

    peter.

  • EJB986
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    edited March 2016 #4

    I coil my cables in 4 foot deep loops (not as painful as it sounds!) then twist them to half the size for storage....they end up the size you already roll them.

    Lift them out then a twist and they are not twisted when you run them out.

     To store them I always use a thin piece of rag to hold them together.....instead of one loop through do two and it stays tight without any knot or bows (!) required!

    PS. There are many video's on You Tube...but not my method!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHW4oj-NcI

  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #5

    There are several "how tos" on U-Tube, start >here<.

    peedee

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2016 #6

    I do the same as Peter, twisted cable is one of my bugbears, and you do see some right messes on sites!!

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #7

    I never managed to avoid problems with the cable before I bought a reel which I find far better. Basically it is only on board when we are not using the caravan so having no specific place to store it does not seem to be a problem.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #8

    yes we have those orange reels, I laid out the cable first then attached on end to the clip in the middle then left hand in the hub and wind the handle with my right. I believe it can also be used by left handed people but I am not sure

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #9

    We also use an orange reel / drum......I've marked the middle of the cable with electrical tape, clip that bit of the cable to the clip on the reel, then wind both halves in at once.....half as much winding.

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #10

    We also use an orange reel / drum......I've marked the middle of the cable with electrical tape, clip that bit of the cable to the clip on the reel, then wind both halves in at once.....half as much winding.

    Write your comments here...Snap

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #11

    wow, that is pure lush (as the kids say in school) I am going to adopt that

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #12

    how come one end always manages to get caught on something, usually the cornersteady (the real one)

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #13

    When it's cold outside my cable generally ends up as series of figure 8s and then gets shoved into the front locker as a ball Surprised

  • triky auto
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    edited March 2016 #14

    When i was an apprentice spark i got a real telling off for coiling up cable in the way you describe
    Sad cable is very prone to twisting so the best way is too coil it up in the same way a cowboy would coil a rope up as a lasoo because he cant
    afford any twists or it just wont work Happy.Hold the end in the left hand and draw in the cable with your right hand and as you form each
    loop you take out any twist by rolling it through your fingers.You can tell if there are any twists by how the cable forms as you place the loop into the left hand.Dont try too loop in into small loops keep them around 18in in diameter or even bigger..Also
    have the cable stretched out on the floor before you start and as you draw it in most of the twist will disappear as the cable rotates as it is dragged along.If its in a bundle this cant happen.Another good tip is that when you come too use it again roll out
    the cable as if you were rolling a wheel in front of you.This all goes towards keeping twists out of the cable which is where all your problems start.This may sound a little complicated but its very simple in practice.I hope this helps.

    peter.

    Write your comments here...Exactly !! Just as the cable came off the line !! Twist & turn !! .Undecided.

  • catherinef
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    edited March 2016 #15

    I've been doing the looping over the shoulder and the cable has ended up a right mess next time we have gone out in the van.   I've given in and bought a reel that does look quite compact. 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited March 2016 #16

    Memory playing tricks. My method used hand and elbow, not shoulder! Anyway, many thanks for the pointers to YouTube where I discovered somebody using my method and getting in a right mess!

    Seems like the "over and under" technique is recommended so will give it a go.

    YouTube is an amazing resource. Some years back I was in Barbados and tried unsuccessfully to water ski. That night I looked at an instruction video on YouTube; next day I went right around the bay without falling in. Off topic?

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #17

    If you cannot live with a reel I have seen cable winderrs that are simply flat with a recess at each end which might work better. Not sure where you get them but might be worth a Google.

  • ABM
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    edited March 2016 #18

    Same  as  Peter's  system  but  I  use  a  nice  thin  rag  in  my  right  hand,  so  that  I  can  feel  any cuts  etcetera  that  my  eyes  might  have  missed.  Then  when  its  all  clean  &  dry  its  stored  in  a  Bags4Everything ( or  some  such
    )  thats  designed  for  the  job  --  And  I  do  the  same  for  the  T.V.  cable  if  needed  &  that  goes  in  the  same  bag.  Must  admit  tho  that  T.V.  co-ax  is  not  capable  of  being  trained  like  the  orange  stuff !!

  • DORMAN12Q
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    edited March 2016 #19

    Coil it on the ground and take the loop out as you lay each coil.

  • commeyras
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    edited April 2016 #20

    I do the coil and twist method as shown in peedee's video, never snags. Yachties also use this method with their ropes - or they should!

  • triky auto
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    edited April 2016 #21

    I do the coil and twist method as shown in peedee's video, never snags. Yachties also use this method with their ropes - or they should!

    Write your comments here...We Do !! Oh Yes Cool.

  • commeyras
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    edited April 2016 #22

    At'a boy trickyLaughing

  • petertr
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    edited April 2016 #23

    I coil the cable up by looping it over my shoulder and hand and use a glove as I grab the cable with the other hand to remove moisture or mud. I then store it in a circular shaped bag. The problem is that it gets twisted and I find that I am fighting the
    'set' in the cable every time. No room for a cable reel in the new vehicle. Anybody got a foolproof method for avoiding the twists?it's very frustrating.

    I do exactly the same.  Sometimes hard to get my hand back out at the end!

     

    Go on the other side and you'll naturally reverse the kink you speak of over time.

  • N1805
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    edited April 2016 #24

    Also use the coil & twist method then drop it into a drawstring towelling bag (made by the other half)

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2016 #25

    I'm trying to visualise the action. Sounds like a way to dislocate something. I coil mine from hand to hand which givres a coil of just over a metre diameter. I'm left handed and coil from the right hand to the left hand, giving the cable a slight twist as I pass it to the left hand. That results in a relatively kink-free coil. Basically I'm using the same method as when I coiled rope on my boat.

    never thought about this 'till now but you're right CY, it's much the same technique as that used to coil a hawser laid rope. I guess the set of individual wires within it are similar to a hawser laid and unlike that in a kermantle rope.

  • PalestinePete
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    edited April 2016 #26

    I coil and twist also, being a sailor for many years. I start at the supply post end, holding the plug in my left hand, and with my right hand holding a piece of kitchen roll, I clean the muck off by sliding my hand out to arms length, then give it a little
    clockwise twist, coil it into about an 18 inch diameter coil. When fully coiled, I turn the ends in and out of the coil and plug them together to stop it uncoiling, then pop the coil into a plastic rubble sack, which keeps any muck off the caravan floor. You
    can do similar with TV cable, but you have to take more care, and then tie the coil with string.l