Travellers on sites

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  • JCB4X4
    JCB4X4 Forum Participant Posts: 466
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    edited March 2016 #62

    Navigateur,

    Off suject I know but;

    I think your post "Locks govern only honest men".

    Is also one for the topic  ‘Those great one liners’

  • buraburas
    buraburas Forum Participant Posts: 77
    edited March 2016 #63

    Still worth a review buraburas, why wait for the regional manager,(you could be waiting a long time)? Posting a review will aid other  members, not put them off, they can always call the site for an update from the wardens...Cool

    you mabe right will do one tonight after work briantimber

  • ADP1963
    ADP1963 Forum Participant Posts: 1,280
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    edited March 2016 #64

    What makes me cringe is where do they empty their loos?

    Write your comments here...What makes you think they have them?.Frown

  • Pippah45
    Pippah45 Forum Participant Posts: 2,452
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    edited March 2016 #65

    Why do they bother to use clubsites if not for the facilities - its quite an expensive car park?  Not that I know anything mind you - and I would hope not to meet any of them on site although I wouldn't hesitate to let the dogs out if they came too close! 
    I sincerely hope this is only a rare thing - and that club rules will be enforced if trouble happens. 

  • black caviar
    black caviar Forum Participant Posts: 242
    edited March 2016 #66

    I think they generally have "dry" vans with no indoor plumbing 

  • Oneputt
    Oneputt Club Member Posts: 9,145 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2016 #67

    think your right BC, a couple of years ago my neighbour was offered a new hobby that for £9k, it had no electrics or plumbing but did come with valid? documentation

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #68

    think your right BC, a couple of years ago my neighbour was offered a new hobby that for £9k, it had no electrics or plumbing but did come with valid? documentation

    Write your comments here...They never sell their used vans to their own kind.Most are sold to dealers.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2016 #69

    think your right BC, a couple of years ago my neighbour was offered a new hobby that for £9k, it had no electrics or plumbing but did come with valid? documentation

    Write your comments here...They never sell their used vans to their own kind.Most are sold to dealers.

    This was a brand new van, and I have no idea where it came from

  • wellum1959
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    edited March 2016 #70

    Uttoxeter Racecourse site had two sets of travellers turn up last year while i was there.  The racecourse security had stopped them at the racecourse entrance but after about ten minutes and after contacting the wardens on their radios, they were allowed
    on site.  So presumably they had booked.  I was due to leave the next morning and made sure i was double locked that night.

  • vivien
    vivien Forum Participant Posts: 449
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    edited March 2016 #71

    I stayed at Moreton in Marsh for Christmas.

    When I arrived I chose pitch 44 as it was near to the other Solos already on site.  I drove up a cul d sac reversed my caravan on its pitch, no problems!

    opposite was a very large coach type motor home, the guy returned from the office, got in and drove off, apparently he and another had been on site for a few weeks.  Yes! He was a traveller.  As I was getting my caravan sorted, I found an assortment of crockery
    in the hedge, took no real notice until I smelt a familiar smell!  I assume it was dogs, so got bags up and cleared 15+ lots up.  It was after I had put the porch awning up, I found more on the gravel.

    I mentioned to the wardens what I found and the fact I cleared it up, they said that there had been travellers pitch at pitch prior to my arrival. They apologised and thanked me for cleaning the pitch. The guy leaving just after I arrived had been asked
    to leave!   

    There was a white pickup truck and caravan parked by the exit, they werenext to be asked to leave as the site filled with CC members for Christmas.

  • Oneputt
    Oneputt Club Member Posts: 9,145 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2016 #72

    The CC monitor CT and I still do not understand why a senior manager (not Ro) doesn't make a statement with regard to threads like this and Broadway.  Stuff like this is a huge concern to a great many customers

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #73

    The CC monitor CT and I still do not understand why a senior manager (not Ro) doesn't make a statement with regard to threads like this and Broadway.  Stuff like this is a huge concern to a great many customers

    I agree, there are a number of club site rules and bye laws that could be used to evict these people, why hasn't it already been done.If it is not nipped in the bud many  members will not use club sites again.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited March 2016 #74

    One of the problems with some? of the Traveler fraternity is their threatening behaveyer towards anyone who they think will try to invoke any kind of rule they do not think applys to them,we were at Ferry Meadows a couple of years ago when they had a such a family on,who tried the "human rights" ploy,it took a court order to have them evicted at a large cost then the clear up afterwards,the wardens had tried all ways to get them to leave before,even taking the barrier card out of the system ,but they found a way of driving round the exit barrier,when they first arrived they had an up to date membership card(that it seem was got via a caravan dealer), and paid for two nights? then just stayed without paying, anything else, 

  • Quantox
    Quantox Forum Participant Posts: 27
    edited March 2016 #75

    Fairly shocked at this ! CC please respond urgently with your plans to prevent such incidents. 

  • volvoman9
    volvoman9 Forum Participant Posts: 1,053
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    edited March 2016 #76

    Am i concerned about this ? yes i am

    Am i surprized ? sadly no i,m not.Sad

    What could the CC do about it ? I dont honestly know.

    peter.

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited March 2016 #77

    Presumably the CC are consulting with their lawyers...... In which case I won't hold my breath waiting for a response...... 

  • paul2hand
    paul2hand Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited March 2016 #78

    Are these people who they say they are and do they have a home address so they can be traced?


    Surely if a visitor arrives and a warden suspects they are not the member named on the card the warden should telephone the club HO and they should call the members home number as a security check. If they are at home then the card is ether being misused, or
    has been stolen. If it is being misused cancel the member ship. If it has been lost or stolen the police must be called to investigate as it may have been taken in a robbery, and if it’s a mobile number the member will be on site.

    The club should remind members to notify them if a card is lost or stolen so that it can be cancelled and it may help to catch the culprit and we don’t won’t a thief pitched next to us do we.

    I think it may be possible to have a pin number or password when booking or arriving on site.

    One thing is for sure if I arrived and travellers were on site I would be straight out the gate.

    Wardens are nice people not night club bouncers and can’t be expected to deal with this situation on there own so do need some back up…

  • Rob2CathDavies
    Rob2CathDavies Forum Participant Posts: 145
    edited March 2016 #79

    wardens we have spoken to who had travellers on site usually get help from East Grinstead to get them off site, as Club Bye Law 10.3 states that club sites are for recreation only, not commercial or domestic use, therefore if the members are using sites
    as a residence or a base for going to work, their membership is withdrawn.

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  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited March 2016 #81

    wardens we have spoken to who had travellers on site usually get help from East Grinstead to get them off site, as Club Bye Law 10.3 states that club sites are for recreation only, not commercial or domestic use, therefore if the members are using sites as a residence or a base for going to work, their membership is withdrawn.

    ...Whoops look out MalcSurprised

     

    But I do not think that it is enforcable as numerous sites are used as a base for work by some

  • Rob2CathDavies
    Rob2CathDavies Forum Participant Posts: 145
    edited March 2016 #82

    Sorry I should have said in my post about bye law 10.3 that the wardens would just use it to suspend a membership if the member (traveller) was causing a problem on site, most members who may be temporarily living in or working from their van would not cause
    a problem.

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #83

    Surely Club Site rule 1B would be sufficient,

    b. The Site Staff have the right to refuse entry to the site where in the Site Staff's opinion a breach of Club Bye-Laws, health and safety and/or site rules may occur.

  • ggregu
    ggregu Forum Participant Posts: 214
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    edited March 2016 #84

    As a teacher, I have encountered many traveller children and their families- many decent families, some less so. However it is a fact that these people do not use/ have toilet facilities in their caravans; they consider them unhygienic! use your imagination
    to work out where they 'go' when they are on the move! 

     

  • buraburas
    buraburas Forum Participant Posts: 77
    edited March 2016 #85

    I have just received a letter from the regional manager in a nut shell it is am sorry to say lip service and P C went mad don't think they grasp the problem I will just be checking before going to the site in the future

  • Spriddler
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    edited March 2016 #86

    What makes me cringe is where do they empty their loos?

    I do hope they park nicely to the peg.

    At least it puts all the CT discussions about 'exhorbitant' site fee increases and rinsing muddy dogs by the water taps into perspective!

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited March 2016 #87

    Travellers are a regular sight at the end of the esplanade at Brighton......this is a pay and display area but they just pitch up on the grass at the side of the road. Cleaning staff visit most days to clear some of the debris
    that they just throw outside.

    When we stayed at the Brighton site last August, there were about 50 of them in the park at the side of the lane leading to the site. They had ripped out sections of fencing to gain access. One day there was a really heavy thunderstorm. They kept driving
    in and out (some with vans with sign-writing, advertising their 'pvc fascias and gutters' business). Inevitably, the park turned into a quagmire. They had open fires and dogs in cages. Some people from the CC site felt intimidated walking past.

    There were several attempts to gain access to the CC site. The warden said that they 'knew the type' and refused them. Private security was employed at times and the police made several visits.

    Apparantly the usual thing is to get one or two on site, which then opens the way for the rest of them to use the site facilities.

    Other than all that, we had a pleasant stay there.......Undecided