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  • volvoman9
    volvoman9 Forum Participant Posts: 1,053
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    edited February 2016 #92

    For goodness sake keep it realistic.Nobody is risking anybody,s life.Your blowing it out of all proportion and if your so sure it can happen so easily tell us about when you last saw it happen.

    peter.

  • rogher
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    edited February 2016 #93

    It’s right to respect anything you don’t understand, but let’s not over-complicate our lives or those of others. What is already in place demonstrates an adequate level of safety.

    I remember my grandmother leaving the vacuum flex across the floor for a while before winding it back around the handle. Her logic? The electricity along the cable, between the socket and the motor, needed chance to ‘drain away’ first. A wise conclusion,
    perhaps, as she came to no harm by doing so. 

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  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #95

    Life is one big risk, however, there are things we can do to minimise that risk. Some may involve large amounts of time or money making them not cost, or time effective, to combat the minimal risk involved. In the case of electrical cables this is not the case, cost is zero time is minimal, so just stop debating pros and cons and unroll the thing.

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #96

    For goodness sake keep it realistic.Nobody is risking anybody,s life.Your blowing it out of all proportion and if your so sure it can happen so easily tell us about when you last saw it happen.

    peter.

    The idea of folks walking around site looking for coiled cables to be afraid of denies belief, what boring holidays they must have!

    What we have too concider here is that new members will ask a question about something like this and what we have to try and give as experienced members is a balanced and realistic answer too the question based on what we have seen or done.What is not needed
    is a a load of ill informed scaremongering.Nobody is advocating that people do dangerous things but it has too be kept in perspective and kept sensible.To say that others are putting peoples "lives and property" in danger just because they dont unwind a mains
    lead is totally unjustified and IMO unacceptable.We will always have conflicting views on things but for goodness sake lets keep it realistic.

    peter.

  • S-max Jonny
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    edited February 2016 #97

    Only a miniscule chance of a coiled lead overheating, even less chance of it catching fire and if units are properly spaced an even smaller chance of it spreading to another unit.

    Why risk your own or anybody elses property/life just to save your self a thirty second task?

    You kind of contradict yourself there do you not ?

  • rogher
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    edited February 2016 #98

    I’d recommend laying out the EHU cable in a way that does not constitute a hazard. There are likely to be more accidents from tripping over the things than them getting overheated and snagging one might damage or loosen the cable within a connector.

    Cables ought to be brightly coloured and laid in a straight path. Tuck any spare under your unit (if it does get warm, at least you’ll benefit).

  • DSB
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    edited February 2016 #99

    We keep our EHU lead on one of those orange reels but we always uncool it completely when on site.  I just kick any spare lead underneath the van (in a random way), and although this wire is lying on to of itself in places, it is not tightly coiled.  I've
    always thought this was OK.

    David 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2016 #100

    We keep our EHU lead on one of those orange reels but we always uncool it completely when on site.  I just kick any spare lead underneath the van (in a random way), and although this wire is lying on to of itself in places, it is not tightly coiled.  I've
    always thought this was OK.

    David 

    We do similar David and like you think that is fine to do so. Will continue with this arrangement in future, too.

  • chasncath
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    edited February 2016 #101

    Cold-weather campers should also note that their Orange-coloured cable may not be specified for use in temperatures below +5C as the insulation can become brittle and the core inflexible. This can be overcome by using 'Artic' cable, which is specified for
    use down to -20C.

    Perhaps an electrician could comment on this previously undiscussed topic.Innocent 

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2016 #102

    Perhaps an electrician could comment on this previously undiscussed topic.Innocent 

    Or read it here on a previous discussion ARCTIC CABLE

  • chasncath
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    edited February 2016 #103

    Perhaps an electrician could comment on this previously undiscussed topic.Innocent 

    Or read it here on a previous discussion ARCTIC CABLE

    We forgot about that one! No need to shout though!Embarassed

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2016 #104

    Perhaps an electrician could comment on this previously undiscussed topic.Innocent 

    Or read it here on a previous discussion ARCTIC CABLE

    We missed that one! No need to shout though!Embarassed

    Innocent It wasn't a shout, only to highlight the link Smile I was quite laid back when I wrote it Happy

  • rogher
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    edited February 2016 #105

    Arctic cable is yellow (or blue). Yellow (or blue) cable is not necessarily Arctic.

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #106

    this is getting more complicated , I'll put my cable in the fridge and see what happens !!Surprised

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2016 #107

    Let's all agree to do our own thing, I know I will Wink

  • Barking50
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    edited February 2016 #108

    Only a miniscule chance of a coiled lead overheating, even less chance of it catching fire and if units are properly spaced an even smaller chance of it spreading to another unit.

    Why risk your own or anybody elses property/life just to save your self a thirty second task?

    You kind of contradict yourself there do you not ?

    N o not at all.

    All I'm saying is if threre is a risk, no matter how small, just unwind the dammed cable!

     

  • Barking50
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    edited February 2016 #109

    For goodness sake keep it realistic.Nobody is risking anybody,s life.Your blowing it out of all proportion and if your so sure it can happen so easily tell us about when you last saw it happen.

    peter.

    No never seen it happen, but if it can, why leave it coiled.

    Risk assessment is all about taking reasonable precaution. If you were being asked to invest in expensive alternatives, restrict yuor electrical usage to 5 amps etc then the risk would not justify it.

    However risk is completely removed by uwinding the cable. I can not understand why anybody would want to continue with the risk, however minute, when it is so easily resolved.

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2016 #110

    Risk assessment is all about taking reasonable precaution



    When I was at work the big safety theme for most of the time was 'Slips, trips and falls'
    so are we mitigating one small risk by providing a greater risk?

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #111

    For goodness sake keep it realistic.Nobody is risking anybody,s life.Your blowing it out of all proportion and if your so sure it can happen so easily tell us about when you last saw it happen.

    peter.

    No never seen it happen, but if it can, why leave it coiled.

    Risk assessment is all about taking reasonable precaution. If you were being asked to invest in expensive alternatives, restrict yuor electrical usage to 5 amps etc then the risk would not justify it.

    However risk is completely removed by uwinding the cable. I can not understand why anybody would want to continue with the risk, however minute, when it is so easily resolved.

     

    Its fair comment but if people dont do it it wont bother me one bit.One because the risk is almost none existant and two its their business and not mine.

    peter.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #112

    Risk assessment is all about taking reasonable precaution



    When I was at work the big safety theme for most of the time was 'Slips, trips and falls'
    so are we mitigating one small risk by providing a greater risk?

    The main risk of tripping is on the bit between the EHU and the caravan, when people take short cuts. This bit cannot be removed if you want to connect. The bit I zig zag at the back of the van is unlikely to get tripped over.

  • rogher
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    edited February 2016 #113

    The mains risk of tripping is over 16A. Wink

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #114

    Given the cable goes down the side of the caravan or motorhome and then along to the hook up plug other people should not be there and on a site they know this I do not think the tripping risk is high enough to worry about. The biggest danger is probably
    the warden mowing it.

  • Maysie
    Maysie Forum Participant Posts: 27
    edited February 2016 #115

    I leave my excess cable wound up on the real and leave it under the caravan , that way i get underfloor heating,  Surprised

    I bring mine into the caravan itself and put the reel inside my sleeping bag.

    Been away a while. Oh how I have missed your top tips Corners Winking