Motorhome Water Management

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  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #62

    I like your style, K&M. I prefer to travel lighter when I know that I can, so only travel with a full tank when off for a week camping wild.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #63

    It's alright for him. Judging by his avatar he has his own personal MHSP. Wink

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  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #65

    When on the rare occasions I do have to top up my tank, I don't think I have ever left the pitch to do so. Sometimes my hose will reach the nearest water point and on occasions I have chosen a pitch to enable this . Otherwise it is a case of fetching water for a top up which takes no longer than a caravanner. However, it can be quite difficult to actually get the water into the tank if you cannot use a hose and if you do not want to move off your pitch. Some use small 12volt submersible pumps to top up from a container, others a watering can of limited capacity which requires several trips to a tap. I used to carry two collapsible water containers which ttook up very little cupboard space and each held 4 gallons. I used to tip these into the tank using a bendy funnel held in place by a piece of elastic and two suction cups. I have also tried the 12volt pump method of filling up from a 5 gallon container which is more trouble than its worth. I have this winter dispensed with both these methods and bought two 2 gallon watering cans for the rare occasion I might need to top up but I have not yet used them.

    peedee

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #66

    If we decide to stay longer,and its  not convenient to move the motorhome to the service point (van nicely levelled, wind out awning out) then I have 2 x 23 litre fiamma containers, 1 waste,1 blue fresh, tucked in a handy outside cupboard. I fill up the
    waste from the tank tap, then take it and the fresh container to the taps, start filling fresh as I empty the waste (just like a caravanner !) When I get back I connect up my outside pump and pump the 23 litres aboard. I usually then get another....just for
    luck.  No time at all,  and less time than it would have taken me to move/empty/fill/ reposition the van.

    Works for me anyway, but usually the tanks are big enough.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #67

    http://www.guttersupplies.co.uk/system/cache/68mm-round-black-offset-bend_cms_site_products_images_1214-1-3478_800_800_False.png

    one of thse fits nicely into a std water inlet 'hole' (may need a bit of tape to pad out to perfect fit) and any 10 ltre or so container can be used to pour directly in.

    as Peedee says, two hoses with joiner is almost always long enough to reach a tap somewhere and i dont want to mess with a submersible....and no12v socket on outside of van...

  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2016 #68

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't
    Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #69

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't
    Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

    Some do and like BB I haven't so it is easier to fill up with a hose and I would not wish to cart around an aquaroll. It is so rare I need to top up while on a pitch that is why I have just decided to carry two watercans around. Both also fit very nicely,
    out of the way, into one of my lockers.

    peedee

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2016 #70

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't
    Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

    Our MH has an external pump as well as hose fill but no way is there room to store an aquaroll. Kind of defeats the object.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2016 #71

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't
    Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

    Our MH has an external pump as well as hose fill but no way is there room to store an aquaroll. Kind of defeats the object.

    Initially I thought the same but soon discovered that if you stay of a site for more than a couple of days on site decisions have to be made. You could return to the morohome service point to fill up but that depends on how much stuff you have connected
    to the motorhome. You could use a long hose but that is not always an option. Or you can use some sort of container. In the end I decided that the Aquaroll was the easist solution for me. It just sits in the shower compartment along with the waste container,
    screen cover and chairs whilst we are travelling. I should add that Bailey motorhomes are not so easy to fill by other methods as water is drawn in via a special fitting.

    David

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #72

    Anyone who needs to transport water and doesn't want the bulk of an aquaroll could go for one of

    these
    . Cheap, light and compact.

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  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #74

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't
    Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

    Some do and like BB I haven't so it is easier to fill up with a hose and I would not wish to cart around an aquaroll. It is so rare I need to top up while on a pitch that is why I have just decided to carry two watercans around. Both also fit very nicely,
    out of the way, into one of my lockers.

    peedee

    agreed....why not serve the van from the aqaroll.....why bother to pump it into another tank......?....seems waste of effort just to move from one 'tank' to another.....

  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2016 #75

    On our Luner Delta we have a two pin plug which serves a submersable pump,in about 2 minutes it will empty a 40 litre Aquarol into the holding tank. We have had 3 caravans all Lunar's with this system all have been trouble free. Only asking but why don't Motorhomes use this system?.Foot in Mouth

    Some do and like BB I haven't so it is easier to fill up with a hose and I would not wish to cart around an aquaroll. It is so rare I need to top up while on a pitch that is why I have just decided to carry two watercans around. Both also fit very nicely, out of the way, into one of my lockers.

    peedee

    agreed....why not serve the van from the aqaroll.....why bother to pump it into another tank......?....seems waste of effort just to move from one 'tank' to another.....

    Write your comments here...Adequate water to shower properly and not so many trips with a watering can as my tank holds about 70 litres. They are also much lighter than bikes and numerous batteries,ect to carry. We also have never had our water frozen when in the Highlands in the winter.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #76

    as you say, a large tank is really useful, and protects against frost,  but i wouldnt be using an Aquaroll to fill it...to me an Aquaroll is either large enough to provide sufficient water on its own (a la most caravans) but too large to be bothered with
    as a top up mechanism....

    the easiest way to get 70 ltr of water (or much, much more) into a tank is from a tap with a hose, but i suspect you may have one of those 'clever' systems that can only be filled with a pump, so in that case, not a lot of choice
    for you.....Frown

    your last clause a bit baffling.....whats an Aquaroll got to do with a bike, or are you riding yours to the fresh water point?

    .....and batteries ect(sic)??.....batteries are definitely more useful than an Aquaroll but cant see a connection other than that....unless its an electric AquarollHappy

  • ADP1963
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    edited January 2016 #77

    as you say, a large tank is really useful, and protects against frost,  but i wouldnt be using an Aquaroll to fill it...to me an Aquaroll is either large enough to provide sufficient water on its own (a la most caravans) but too large to be bothered with as a top up mechanism....

    the easiest way to get 70 ltr of water (or much, much more) into a tank is from a tap with a hose, but i suspect you may have one of those 'clever' systems that can only be filled with a pump, so in that case, not a lot of choice for you.....Frown

    your last clause a bit baffling.....whats an Aquaroll got to do with a bike, or are you riding yours to the fresh water point?

    .....and batteries ect(sic)??.....batteries are definitely more useful than an Aquaroll but cant see a connection other than that....unless its an electric AquarollHappy

    Write your comments here...BB I don't want you baffled so. There is a system to use a hose to fill my tank,as I am fit and well I have no need to use it. It is only easier to fill the tank if the hose is long enough !. I mentioned Bikes ,Batteries & Solar Panels as other posts by Motorhomers said they carried these , but could not find room for a Aquarol yet were under the impression that they had huge payloads. The Aquarol has been around for about 30 years 

    and to many nobody has improved on it,no need to re invent the wheel. As for batteries being more use than an Aquarol ( other than still) how much water can you carry in a battery......horses for courses. We come from differnt worlds when it comes to our caravan/motorhome holidays, If we can afford it and we always can ,we go,on holiday  to enjoy ourselves,we dont waste money,but don't go with a view to saving money on gadgets and the like of. As I said we have different views,that doesn't mean we are right it means we are different. Winking

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #78

    I think Bailey motorhomes  have a Whale water connector ? Don't  feel that you HAVE  to use a submersible pump to fill the tank. I owned an Autocruise  that had a similar system made by Truma, all I did was buy a spare connector, to fit into the input to the tank,  fitted that connector onto the end of my fill up hose,  I could then fill my tank straight from the tap, the same as most other  Motohomers.

    Just make sure that you check the tightness of all internal pipes to the tank, as they may be tight enough for pump pressure only, not full mains pressure. But certainly speeds up tank filling.    

    I would carry an Aquaroll, but they are such an awkward shape to store and carry, my 2 fiammas fit perfectly into my outside cupboard.

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  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #81

    Wow.  A 23 wheeled waste container.  What sort of licence do you need to drive that?  Laughing

    Write your comments here...it only needs emptying once a year though. Think he meant 23 litre.....that's a big engine too ! Must be powered by a Rolls Royce Merlin.  Mind boggles.  

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #82

    In defence of the good old aquaroll, in holds 40 litres of water, AND you don't have to lift it, unlike jerry cans, unless you mount it on a trolley. It's a natural barrel, so it just rolls along, perfect really, apart from the shape being awkward to store.Think the waste master is good too, (if you don't have an internal tank) it has lots of copiers now.....a sign of a good product.

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited January 2016 #83

    Am I the only one who doesn't faff about having to get sufficient water on-board while on holiday?

    It takes literally 10 minutes every four days or so to replenish with around 100 litres of fresh water from a water point.

    At the same time as filling with water I empty the grey tank and the toilet cassette in the appropriate disposal points.

    I carry a four metre plastic hose, about a dozen connectors for varying types of taps and a HOES water tank cap with hose connector.

    The plastic hose is clipped on the inside of the garage door and the connectors in a small box.

    Almost no space taken up by any of them and certainly no frequent visits to the water point.

    Do some of you use the water issue as an excuse to get out of the way of your spouse/partner for a short, or even long, period of time?

    Just a thought!

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  • rayjsj
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    Wow.  A 23 wheeled waste container.  What sort of licence do you need to drive that?  Laughing

    Write your comments here...it only needs emptying once a year though. Think he meant 23 litre.....that's a big engine too ! Must be powered by a Rolls Royce Merlin.  Mind boggles.  

    Its the same as yours I think, that grey Fiamma thing on wheelsHappy

    Write your comments here...that's the one, I have a blue one also.  Easy to store away, they almost fit together. Ergonomic, I think that's the word.

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  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #87

    aye, Obediah, we were poor, but we were happyWink

  • QFour
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    We fill up when we find a tap. We empty the toilet waste when we find a suitable place Public Toilet / CL Site / CC Site. Grey water down the nearest drain. CC Sites are horible to get rid of grey waste they really haven't addressed the issue. They need something like the Aires. Large drive over and pull the plug. We went to one site where you were expected to hold a piece of drain pipe under the MH to get the waste water to the drain.

  • young thomas
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    We fill up when we find a tap. We empty the toilet waste when we find a suitable place Public Toilet / CL Site / CC Site. Grey water down the nearest drain.
    CC Sites are horible to get rid of grey waste they really haven't addressed the issue. They need something like the Aires. Large drive over and pull the plug. We went to one site where you were expected to hold a piece of drain pipe under the
    MH to get the waste water to the drain.

    .....as has been said many times....the clue is in the name.... caravan clubUndecided

  • Blackdeath
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    We fill up when we find a tap. We empty the toilet waste when we find a suitable place Public Toilet / CL Site / CC Site. Grey water down the nearest drain. CC Sites are horible to get rid of grey waste they really haven't addressed the issue. They need something like the Aires. Large drive over and pull the plug. We went to one site where you were expected to hold a piece of drain pipe under the MH to get the waste water to the drain.

    .....as has been said many times....the clue is in the name.... caravan clubUndecided

    Maybe time for a change of name then as I am sure I have seen the odd motorhome, including ours, carrying a CC window sticker. It's not an organisation just for caravans.

    Motorhomes and caravans are different beasts when it comes to a number of things including how they are used and what facilities they need. CC sites do, in the main, have motorhome service points, but emptying grey waste on many of them is a complete pain because of the positioning of the drain. The best drain is where you can drive over a grating and not have the need to lift a heavy, and sometimes jammed hatch cover. It's not rocket science

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #91

    BD, preaching to the converted, mateWink

    apparently, there is a roll out program of newly designed MHSP....however the roll out was rumoured to be over a 20 year period....yes....twentySad