First trip tomorrow! Any must-have advice???

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  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #32

    Some caravans had on-board fresh water tanks and pumps even before MH manufacturers thought of the idea, BB. I know, it's amazing!

    Write your comments here...We have had them on our last 4 Lunar Delta's. Silvervapour glad you are enjoying yourselves, you will soon be old hands at this game.Most of all keep your present outlook, it's all about enjoying yourselves.  Wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #33

    Some caravans had on-board fresh water tanks, pumps and toilet flushing ranks even before MH manufacturers thought of the idea, BB. I know, it's amazing!

    however i didnt ask about on board tanks....amazing as it seems...Wink....strange that they went back to outside barrels then...and pumps that
    sit outside in the frost.

    i asked if there was a way of a caravan using an internal pump, pumping directly from the outside barrel into the internal plumbing....ie just moving the pump, not the water store.

    Err, you didn't actually, BB.

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    "does this mean you cant draw water from a tap or flush the loo if its close to freezing outside and have brought the pump inside....and presumably have to go outside early next morning to replace it prior to that first life
    giving cuppa?

    do some caravans have internal pumps that are less susceptible to frost....?"

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #34

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up. And of course one fills one kettle before taking the connection in for the night so it's ready for that 1st cuppa!!Wink

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #35

    er, did i mention internal tanks....?Undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #36

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     i see you edited in the filling of the kettle prior to bed....ah, planning.....Happy

     

  • black caviar
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    edited March 2016 #37

    Silvervapour if you are going to sleep in two single beds then i can highly recomend the duvalay system . Its very comfortable and easy to strip the covers off and launder so keeping the bedding fresh weve got them and think they are very good best regards
    mrs bc :)

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #38

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against
    the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     

    From its own on board header tank.

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #39

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against
    the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     

    From its own on board header tank.

    do all caravans have them....?

    many motorhomes did away with these years ago, TW.

    I know, its amazing!Wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #40

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against
    the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     

    From its own on board header tank.

    do all caravans have them....?

    many motorhomes did away with these years ago, TW.

    I know, its amazing!Wink

    I know that you understand little about caravans, BB, as you've never had one so I'll explain. 

    Caravan toilets are flushed from either their own built in header tank or from the caravan's on board fresh water tank, if fitted. They do not flush from the external Aquaroll/water container.

    Happy to help.Cool

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #41

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against
    the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     i see you edited in the filling of the kettle prior to bed....ah, planning.....Happy

     

    As has been explained before the loo has a seperate flushing tank, filled by pouring water into a holding tank, not connected to the pump. Just flush it as one does any other time of the day.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #42

    BB, many new caravans have internal pumps which have an  external connection into ones aquaroll (or water barrel). What happens is that water freezes in this pipe if it is not insulated sufficiently against
    the cold. It's really no bother taking this connection in when there's a chance of it freezing up.

    thanks, so how do you flush the loo at night?

     

    From its own on board header tank.

    do all caravans have them....?

    many motorhomes did away with these years ago, TW.

    I know, its amazing!Wink

    I know that you understand little about caravans, BB, as you've never had one so I'll explain. 

    Caravan toilets are flushed from either their own built in header tank or from the caravan's on board fresh water tank, if fitted. They do not flush from the external Aquaroll/water container.

    Happy to help.Cool

    OOPS, sorry TW, just got down to this post after posting my response to BB.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #43

     

    I know that you understand little about caravans, BB, as you've never had one so I'll explain. 

    Caravan toilets are flushed from either their own built in header tank or from the caravan's on board fresh water tank, if fitted. They do not flush from the external Aquaroll/water container.

    Happy to help.Cool

    OOPS, sorry TW, just got down to this post after posting my response to BB.

    No problem, Nellie. We're both helping BB understand caravans.

  • silvervaper
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    edited March 2016 #44

    Anyway, we had a lovely time and had cups of tea and the toilet flushedHappy

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #45

    Anyway, we had a lovely time and had cups of tea and the toilet flushedHappy

    thank goodness for that....Happy

    enjoy!

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #46

    Anyway, we had a lovely time and had cups of tea and the toilet flushedHappy

    Write your comments here...Weee are pleased you had a good time and your feeling flushed from your first trip.  Happy

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #47

    Am I right in thinking that the toilet flush is less likely to freeze due to the chemicals in the flush water? 

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #48

    Am I right in thinking that the toilet flush is less likely to freeze due to the chemicals in the flush water? 

    ....presumably, it wont freeze as its inside the van.....

    hence the use of internal water tanks on most sensible MH.

  • KjellNN
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    I know that you understand little about caravans, BB, as you've never had one so I'll explain. 

    Caravan toilets are flushed from either their own built in header tank or from the caravan's on board fresh water tank, if fitted. They do not flush from the external Aquaroll/water container.

    Happy to help.Cool

    Not so...........it will depend on the caravan.

    Our previous van, a Swift Group Sterling Eccles Emerald 1998 model, had no toilet flush tank, and no onboard tank.

    The toilet flush water was drawn directly from the Aquaroll.

    We liked the system as we rarely ran out of flush water and no need to fetch a separate container of water to fill in the toilet header tank.

    The only drawback was when needing to use the toilet en route,

  • Tinwheeler
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    I know that you understand little about caravans, BB, as you've never had one so I'll explain. 

    Caravan toilets are flushed from either their own built in header tank or from the caravan's on board fresh water tank, if fitted. They do not flush from the external Aquaroll/water container.

    Happy to help.Cool

    Not so...........it will depend on the caravan.

    Our previous van, a Swift Group Sterling Eccles Emerald 1998 model, had no toilet flush tank, and no onboard tank.

    The toilet flush water was drawn directly from the Aquaroll.

    We liked the system as we rarely ran out of flush water and no need to fetch a separate container of water to fill in the toilet header tank.

    The only drawback was when needing to use the toilet en route,

    Well thank goodness Swift caught up with the times eventually. I'm surprised that happened in a 98 van. We had older models with header tanks, or which used the onboard water tank. You must have used the contents of your Aquaroll in extra quick time. There
    is a school of thought that suggests it's possible, although unlikely, for contamination to travel from the toilet back into the flushing system and thence into the water container/tank.

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #51

    TW, that silly system cost me a fiver.When my sister told me that she had that system on he Swift Challenger 1998 van,I did not accept it and said they had not looked at the system properly and bet her a fiver,only to find that she was right.They found out
    by trying to add a flushing agent and could not find out how to add it. They did give me the fluid that they could not use.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #52

    It defies belief that they'd use that system, ADP. Not that I'm doubting what you say.

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #53

    It defies belief that they'd use that system, ADP. Not that I'm doubting what you say.

    Write your comments here...AgreedUndecided

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #54

    Another draw back would be when its frosty and you have taken the pump in - no flushing overnight Undecided  Mind you its not hard to have a container with a bit of flush fluid in it - I use for stops en route too. 

  • KjellNN
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    We did not regard it as a silly system, we found it rather good, but I suppose it depends on what you are used to.

    We never gave any thoughy to the possibility that contamination could occur, I find it difficult to believe that Thetford would market a product that was dangerous to health.

    From what BB has said, it seems many MHs have no header tank and use direct from their fresh water tank......how is that any different in terms of contamination risk  to using from an Aquaroll?

     

  • KjellNN
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    TW, that silly system cost me a fiver.When my sister told me that she had that system on he Swift Challenger 1998 van,I did not accept it and said they had not looked at the system properly and bet her a fiver,only to find that she was right.They found out by trying to add a flushing agent and could not find out how to add it. They did give me the fluid that they could not use.

    It does catch people out, when we sold on our van back in 2008 we did give the new owners a complete run down on how everything worked, and passed on the Handbook.

    A couple of weeks later, late on a Friday night, we got a call from them wondering how/where to add "the pink".

     

     

  • silvervaper
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    edited March 2016 #57

    Oh - and we discovered the need for caravan slippers - nothing worse than soggy socks.

    Do what the majority of caravnners do and get yourselves a pair of Crocs each!! Whatever anyone else says they're great for those short trips out from the van.

    Did just that - but not quite Crocs - Lidl was doing gardening clogs for a fiver a pair - perfectHappy

  • silvervaper
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    edited March 2016 #58

    Silvervapour if you are going to sleep in two single beds then i can highly recomend the duvalay system . Its very comfortable and easy to strip the covers off and launder so keeping the bedding fresh weve got them and think they are very good best regards
    mrs bc :)

    Thanks for the advice mrs bc - had a look and now I want those! Other posts on here seem to rate them very highly and they do look like they would be the perfect solution for us. A good compromise beteween comfort and convenience. I like the idea of summer
    and/or winter weight for the quilt part - we're planning on spending a bit of time in France over the summer, and hoping for some decent weather here too.

    Only drawback is the price - certainly steep, but a good night's sleep is priceless, and if they are good quality they should last

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #59

    We did not regard it as a silly system, we found it rather good, but I suppose it depends on what you are used to.

    We never gave any thoughy to the possibility that contamination could occur, I find it difficult to believe that Thetford would market a product that was dangerous to health.

    From what BB has said, it seems many MHs have no header tank and use direct from their fresh water tank......how is that any different in terms of contamination risk  to using from an Aquaroll?

    Some caravans do the same and it isn't any different which was why I said...

    "There is a school of thought that suggests it's possible, although unlikely, for contamination to travel from the toilet back into the flushing system and thence into the water
    container/tank."

  • nelliethehooker
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    Oh - and we discovered the need for caravan slippers - nothing worse than soggy socks.

    Do what the majority of caravnners do and get yourselves a pair of Crocs each!! Whatever anyone else says they're great for those short trips out from the van.

    Did just that - but not quite Crocs - Lidl was doing gardening clogs for a fiver a pair - perfectHappy

    Spotted them today when we were in the shop. I've a pair of those too at home. They are not as comfortable as the genuine arcticle, but will certainly do the job.

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #61

    You are right about the price of Duvalay!  I went for Dunelm's 3 in one Duvet - not pricey - there is one for Summer - one for Autumn and they pop together to make a Winter one.  So you only need to carry what is appropriate to the season - not sure Duvalay
    would suit me - I like to sleep in a pretty cool caravan - and it doesn't suit my pocket that's for sure!