Hymer caravan has water tank
hello weve bought a second hand hymer nova caravan and with it came some accessories one of which was an aquaroll :the caravan has a built in water tank under the bunk so will i still have to use the aquaroll or do i just fill the water tank? sorry if its
a dumb question but we are new to this cheers:)
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I guess as you have already realised on the opposite side of the van from the door there will be the tank filler point. This should be sealed with a blue "petrol" filler cap. Next to this there will be an oblong box ( I am assuming that this is a UK spec
Hymer ) Inside the box there will be 4 thingsA connection point for the 12v electric supply for your submersible pump.
A female quick fit connector (a chromed knurled thing) Also.
A rocker switch is for switching the inboard tank off when using the submersible pump.
And finally
A blue disk about 1.5" in diameter with a blue point coming out of it. We are on our third Hymer and have no clue what this is for
In the van you should have the submersible pump assembly so you can plug in the 12v and the water to the side of your van. If this is missing then they can be replaced but depending on how handy you are the electric plug can be sourced separately the
water connection is identical a male quick fit gas connection and a pump is a pump.You can connect the aquaroll at this point but what we do is use the aquaroll to fill the tank. if the tank is empty then it will take a 40 l aquaroll if it isn't empty then it will flood afaik there is no cutout . Some people seem to spend there whole
stay ferrying water to the tank with a water can for me life is too short. So I use the aquaroll and use the pipefrom the pump to fill the tank. The previously mentioned rocker switch may be redundant and there could be a switch inside the van by the tank
that controls which pump is opperational. You can of course ignore the onboard tank. We don't because we find that the water pressure is better than direct from the aquaroll and it doesn't freeze in the winter.Thats about it really. Enjoy your Hymer which model have you got and don't forget to make sure that you have the correct wheel bolts if you have a steel spare
Anymore questions just ask you don't have to take any notice of my answers.
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Hi Blackcaviar. We have just sold a Hymer 530 with an onboard water tank. We found that we just didn't use an Aquaroll at all. Just a hose to fill the onboard tank which you can do very easily if you book a serviced pitch. Although we always made sure it was empty before we moved on to save weight. (There ought to be a dedicated Hymer water container in the front locker. They came with one just the right size to fit neatly at the right hand side. Saved carrying an awkward shaped Aquaroll inside the van).
Your Hymer caravan will withstand extremely low temperatures and we have been cosy and warm in ours when the outside temperature reached -11C in Central Spain one winter. That is why they have an onboard tank which is a boon in those conditions.
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Thankyou boff and oldgirl : its a hymer nova 555 and its 12 years old ,can i ask you boff what bolts i need for my spare wheel please ? Cheers mrs bc
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We have a hymer motorhome with an on board water tank. Why would we/ you need an aquaroll? Before setting out, use a hose to fill up your fresh water tank until the water level indicator on your panel is in the green sector. That's enough to get you going. Buy a plastic watering can which you can then use to top up your water on a daily basis from a tap.
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Re the wheel nuts, if it has alloy wheels and a steel spare then most likely the shoulder on the top of the bolt is a different shape. In my 2007 and 2015 Hymer manuals have the same picture of the different bolts. If you have the original document pack it might have the information in there. if the bolts are different then the van would have originally come with a set.
PS have you seen this < This > ?
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Thanks boff i had seen that review as it happens , it turns out that our van was originally (many years ago) owned by a md of lowdhams (its got 2solar panels and air con , i only know that cos the guy who serviced it after we bought it (we bought it local)
is a hymer specialist ,and knew the history of our van: funnily enough i love it even tho its knocking on a bit:) £14.950 new? I think they are double that now ? i will get my hymer book out and check on bolts (it came in a little "hymer " bag ) i dont think
the onboard water tank is as big as a motorhome tank(we had autotrails and they seemed larger than the one under the bunk) which is probably why the previous owner had a water roll cheers mrs Bc0 -
The water tank will be 45 litres.
These early Novas came with a 16 litre water carrier with a nice nozzle so were about the right weight to carry from a tap and fill the tank, three visits initially. Unlike MHs Hymer suggests you don't transit with water, though I often do with up to 5 litres for loo flushing washing hands and brewing on long hauls.
Using an Aquaroll in UK caravanning fashion is possible so is using it to fill the onboard tank via the supplied snap-in pump. Where the site water tap is a long way off this is quite an asset. It can travel in the shower.
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if a caravan had a fixed internal tank, could it not be pulled up alongside the MHSP (or even other tap) after check in and before pitching? it could then be filled (only 45 l) in a couple of mins with a hose, with no faffing with aquaroll or the lile...mich
quicker and easier i would have thought.tank can then be topped up with a light weight, far less bulky container as needed....
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I wouldn't worry too much about age. There is a good argument, that they were the best built Hymer's ever.
But going back to the original question I believe that you should be able to use the aquaroll direct or use it to fill the tank. It would have come with a water container and pourer, I would guess that has disappeared sometime over the years. And I found an aquaroll more convenient. Like ocsid we used to travel with a small amount of water for convenience.
BB posted while I was typing .
Personally I can't for the life of me see the objection to using an aquaroll they work they are realiively easy to pull when full and a 40l aquaroll last us a day including a shower. As said before I can't for the life of me see what is the point of going to a tap ten times per day with a watering can or what ever. When I can do it once, however everyone is different.
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It is probably the more usual MH culture of one or two nights stays compared to tuggers lingering longer along with tanks over twice this size. I am not going to haul the whole unit up to a suitable tap and add to the clobber with a hose kit for 45 litres of water. I prefer the container but for sites where I know the tap is a long way off I put the Aquaroll on board, its easier.
But every one is free to do their prefered thing.
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Boff, we dont use 40 l of water a day (nearer 20) even with showering...so an initial 45 l would last upto 3 days....
Ocsid, i only suggested using the MHSP if you happen to drive by it as you arrive, which, on most sites, you would....a 10 foot hose doesnt add much and, as i said above, the initial 45 l would give us 3 days supply...
our 110 l tank lasts 5 days incl showers or 10 days using site facs...
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I am amazed at how little water some of you claim to use. If totally self-contained, we get through about 40L a day. You must be using paper plates.
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I am amazed at how little water some of you claim to use. If totally self-contained, we get through about 40L a day. You must be using paper plates.
"We" seem also to use a lot but I am convinced that is because only one of "us" gets the water and empties the waste
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Our 2012 Eriba Troll has onboard cold and hot water tanks. The cold tank also provides toilet flush water. We soon tired of lugging an aquaroll around and fill up the tanks on arrival using a watering can. Once
both tanks are full, so about 5 cans full, we have enough water to last about 6 nights.Must say that we hadn't thought of using the motorhome filling point on site, but it certainly seems a good idea.
Keith
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I am amazed at how little water some of you claim to use. If totally self-contained, we get through about 40L a day. You must be using paper plates.
last week, five nights at Ludlow....
fill fresh with 110 ltr, plus hot water tank with 10 ltr so 120 ltr total.
used site showers as we were handy and they were really nice.
at end of break, fresh still 50% full so only used 55 ltrs.
thats around 11 a day...
dish washing, teeth and hand washing dont really use much water when only two on board.
2 quick showers (if using van) would bring this up to approx 20 per day...we're pretty confident that our 110 ltrs will last at least 5 days.
waste tank 40% full (40 ltr) so 15 ltr probably went down the toilet!
despite our low usage, we drink plenty of tea/coffee...
i guess its just how one uses/values the resources, our pals get through water like its going out of fashion....a full sink to wash a couple of cups, shower left running til hot water expires...then off to fill their tank....
we use aires when on a long journey in france/spain and so might be more resource conscious that others who are fully plumbed in...
as has been said, no right/wrong way, just interesting that there can be such a wild variation in usage.
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As seen we all do things differently. I certainly don't think I would want to tow with a water tank full. I find the hygeine thing quite important - I don't drink out of the aqua roll supply even though I keep it cleansed - my washing machine at home collects
black stuff in the soap drawer so that warns me. As yours isn't in the first flush of youth (nor is mine) the pipework would be a concern for me as well as the tank. For drinking I use a supermarket 5L bottle and fill those at the site taps - or if those
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Pippa yes i use the 5litre bottles for drinking too , have never used hot water (in motorhomes) in past but am determined to learn the ins and outs of a ducks a.. Regarding this van lol : before i used site facilities and boiled a kettle ! Find the hot water
and heating daunting so am off to clumber park and going to play house for a couple of days ......cant wait regards mrs bc ps might even try onboard shower !0 -
I have owned 2 vans with on board tanks , Hymer and Fendt but found the Hymer much more flexible having both options i.e onboard or outside tank switchable. The onboard tank was useful for short stops or tea breaks but when we had serviced pitches I
used the supplied water container with a float valve I had fitted myself. The Fendt could only be used from the onboard tank and needed filling from a smaller water carrier such as a watering can or a hose if on a serviced pitch. This is very common with
continental vans as most users use site facilities (as we do) and need much less water than some British caravanners who are wedded to the Aquaroll and Wastemaster.Write your comments here...So what is wrong in being wedded to Wastemaster or Aquaroll ?.If it works well for the holiday and the person, then as far as I can see that is the answer. If a person wants to walk up and down the site with a little watering can
so beit.Some people take washing machines on holiday ( we don't) but that does'nt make them wrong.0 -
I am amazed at how little water some of you claim to use. If totally self-contained, we get through about 40L a day. You must be using paper plates.
No we wash up at the comunal sinks, and wash ourselves at the shower block.
Write your comments here...We shower at the shower blocks and eat out 50% of the time and I still fill the Aquaroll up and empty the Wastemaster one a day.
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Pippa yes i use the 5litre bottles for drinking too , have never used hot water (in motorhomes) in past but am determined to learn the ins and outs of a ducks a.. Regarding this van lol : before i used site facilities and boiled a kettle ! Find the hot water
and heating daunting so am off to clumber park and going to play house for a couple of days ......cant wait regards mrs bc ps might even try onboard shower !Sounds like you could do with someone to show you the ropes. If for no other reason then they should be able to workout it something isn't working whether it is you or it needs repairing. It should all be pretty standard stuff but its only obvious once
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Ha its not so long since I used a kettle and showers on site - but I met some lovely MHs in Ireland who crawled under my bed to show me where the switches were - they were so horrified I was paying Euros for the shower when I had a decent one on board!
Thank you Rob and Sarah! Since I prefer to shower just before bed I almost always use my own unless on an overnight stop or something like that. Usually end up forgetting the soap or the towel if I go onsite! It is easy to learn how to use all your own
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"We shower at the shower blocks and eat out 50% of the time and I still fill the Aquaroll up and empty the Wastemaster one a day."
...but is the Aquaroll actually empty and the Wastemaster actually full....and therefore 'need' changing?
...its perfectly possible for someone to go through the 'water ritual' every day, yet only fill half a barrel or empty half a Wastemaster....
....when you eat out, is the Aquaroll less empty and the Wastemaster less full than on the days you dont....?
...if you do these processes every morning on a ritualistic basis, i suspect you neither notice, nor care.....after all, weve all paid for the water.....like the leccy....
however, for perspective, a full 40 ltrs a day is 23 x 1.7 ltr full large domestic kettle fulls
of water, just to cleen your teeth, wash your hands and the odd plate or cup and drink a bit of tea/coffee.....0 -
This is what we do. Arrive on site fill aquaroll. Fill tank from Aquaroll. If not raining refill Aquaroll. Run tank until empty then refil from the full aquaroll.
I know that last weekend I filled the aquaroll 3 times I certainly used more than 80 litres and less than 120 litres. The first portion of the water approximately 12 lites is used for refilling the pipes and hot water tank so we use more in the winter because we effectively waste 12 litres by draining it down at the end of each stay. We don't do this in the summer months. Before we had a caravan with a tank we took 2 Aquarolls because it was a lot more convienent to do a quick change over rather than having to go back to the tap. We do use almost exclusively our onboard facilities, we even drink from the tap.
Not saying that this is right or wrong just that it works for us.
Ps. Have you ever tried to pull a half full Aquaroll?
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"We shower at the shower blocks and eat out 50% of the time and I still fill the Aquaroll up and empty the Wastemaster one a day."However BB I will tell SWMBO of your comcern of her water indulgance.
...but is the Aquaroll actually empty and the Wastemaster actually full....and therefore 'need' changing?
...its perfectly possible for someone to go through the 'water ritual' every day, yet only fill half a barrel or empty half a Wastemaster....
....when you eat out, is the Aquaroll less empty and the Wastemaster less full than on the days you dont....?
...if you do these processes every morning on a ritualistic basis, i suspect you neither notice, nor care.....after all, weve all paid for the water.....like the leccy....
however, for perspective, a full 40 ltrs a day is 23 x 1.7 ltr full large domestic kettle fulls of water, just to cleen your teeth, wash your hands and the odd plate or cup and drink a bit of tea/coffee.....
Write your comments here...The Aquaroll is always empty as it is transfered to the onboard tank!,the Wastemaster is a matter of routine! I know watering cans are always empty as we see people running up and down a lot. When you have done it once a day and finished,you have time to notice these things!.
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