Calor gas lite

RKJ52
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edited December 2016 in Parts & Accessories #1

I was told today that the Calor Gas lite bottles are being discontinued, has anyone else heard this?

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  • huskydog
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    edited December 2016 #2

    Who told you ??

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2016 #3

    Probably an agent who only has the heavy bottles in stock.

  • bill
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    edited December 2016 #4

    There was certainly a note circulating about this on Facebook but there is nothing on the Calor website.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2016 #5

    Earlier in the year we stayed at the C&CC site in Chipping Norton and I managed to swap a Calor Lite and one of the site managers told me the same thing although I have not found it mentioned anywhere officially. I suppose the answer is to contact Calor direct via their website and ask the question. If it is true I seem to recall that it wouldn't be the first time they have discontinued a lightweight bottle, years ago they did an alluminium bottle.

    David

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2016 #6

    I have sent an E-mail to calor ,as soon as i get a reply i will post the answer   

  • Pippah45
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    edited December 2016 #7

    Does that mean the Calorlite I want to get rid of will be worth more?  or Less?Undecided  Anyone want one - its almost full.  Laughing  I could arrange for it to be in Devon after Christmas or Lincolnshire now.  Wink

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2016 #8

    Abandonment of Lite cylinders would merely acclerate the changeover to refillables, I would have thought.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2016 #9

    Well if they are withdrawn and the way that Calor work,how long will it be before the "heavy" cylinders are the same price as the extra rip off price of the "lights?"

    Ps has anyone checked the Tare weight of a light against a heavyUndecided

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2016 #10

    Just had a reply from Calor HO, and the answer was that the "lite" bottle is NOT going to discontinued, but due to the intermittent availability in some areas that customers opt for the 6kg steel bottle

  • JayEss
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    edited December 2016 #11

    Thanks Husky. 

    (JVB The calorlite is approx 4.5kg lighter than the standard bottle)

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #12

    Thanks Husky. 

    (JVB The calorlite is approx 4.5kg lighter than the standard bottle)

    However for me, who does not use a lot of gas, the 3.9kg is similar weight to the calorlite and more compact and therefore easier to handle.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2016 #13

    Thanks Husky. 

    (JVB The calorlite is approx 4.5kg lighter than the standard bottle)

    ...Is 4.5kg approx? worth an extra £3 on the price for the same amount of gasUndecided we only use a 6kg approx every 15 months

  • tigerfish
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    edited December 2016 #14

    JVB, Me too!   So I wonder if we have become part of the problem..  Modern caravans, and MH's too have become very reliant on EHU's, my van like many others has one of the burners replaced by a hot plate.  We now heat the van by electric and heat the water
    too the same way. Our useage of gas today is very much reduced from say 10 years ago. That situation is obviously replicated on most other caravas, so I guess that we no longer rate as important customer/users as far as they are concerned.

    TF

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2016 #15

    JVB, Me too!   So I wonder if we have become part of the problem..  Modern caravans, and MH's too have become very reliant on EHU's, my van like many others has one of the burners replaced by a hot plate.  We now heat the van by electric and heat the water
    too the same way. Our useage of gas today is very much reduced from say 10 years ago. That situation is obviously replicated on most other caravas, so I guess that we no longer rate as important customer/users as far as they are concerned.

    TF

    ..Just so TF and i have as others must have ,noticed that the price of LPG did not come down when the price of oil plummeted and LPG is a side product of oil ?

  • tigerfish
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    edited December 2016 #16

    it certainly appeared to me that they were profiteering after the reduction in the price of oil. So any loyalty went out the window.

    TF

  • Wildwood
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    edited December 2016 #17

    Another one running on very little gas. With an electric ring in the hob and a microwave we normally use the gas only for the odd meal in the oven and to help with the heating when it is very cold. The bottles now last almost indefinitely so with others in a similar position the sale of gas to caravan owners must be very low these days compared with the past. The saving grace for Calor is probably the trend towards patio heaters and gas barbeques though where weight is often less of an issue. You do still see afair number of gas bottles being exchanged on dites though.

  • Pippah45
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    edited December 2016 #18

    I run my Heating in the house on LPG via Calor (at the moment)  and they recently quoted my new price as 49p per litre fixed or 52 variable.  I did some research and got a reduced price to switch - Calor came back with an offer of 30p a litre fixed for 12 months - disgusting or not?  I won't be using Calor again unless it lines my pocket! 

    Sorry I know this is a bit off topic but Calor are not decent traders in my opinion. 

  • fur ball
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    edited December 2016 #19

    We have a lite and because of the reasons mentioned before by others struggle to use a bottle a year which at under £25 is less than fifty pence a week so quite happy with it. 

  • Merve
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    edited December 2016 #20

    Here's one using more gas !! Safefill cylinders using gas at about 75% less than Calor prices and no EHU to pay for as the sun powers everything else. It really is about time that they replaced all the steel cylinders with the new lightweight materials available
    and turn the former into plough shears!! The caravan industry, although painfully slow to catch up with new ideas and inventions are definitely ready for the new technology in cylinders- I have 3 and not a metal one in sight.

  • Boff
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    edited December 2016 #21

    If we're to use Calorlite then this time of year I would be getting through most of one per weekend not I think economical. So safefill for me as well.

    The advantage is better heating on gas equals toasty warm in even the coldest conditions. 

    But if you are in the other camp then you simply won't get the payback from buying a safefill.  On the other hand you aren't using your van to its full potential. 

  • Rutlander
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    edited December 2016 #22

    All very confusing, spoke to the C.C. as to the availability of Calor Lite on their sites, the reply was that they do not get involved with gas supply, it is the responsibility of the individual wardens - probably this is why there is confusion with the costs of refills?

  • Pippah45
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    edited December 2016 #23

    A call to Calor might solve the dilemma - but maybe more of us have realised how crooked their prices are? (can't figure out the spelling for that word - but I don't like Calor pricing - I am on LPG for Central Heating at home and Calor are trying it on seriously especially with older people. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2016 #24

    Rutlander

    It's always been the case that wardens finance and sell Calor from their own resources. The same question was asked some time ago and about differing costs from site to site and the answer then was that some wardens were charged for delivery for their gas supplies and in turn added those costs when selling on to members. I very much doubt any warden gets rich on the sales of gas and I would have thought that it is better to have it available in an emergency on site than not at all. We all have the option of planning ahead if we think we might run out of gas to take advantage of cheaper prices if they are available elsewhere.

    David

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2016 #25

    Hi

    On Club owned sites, we are supplied with a tested and insured gas cage which we are encouraged to use to supply bottled gas as a convenience to our members (at our cost). In some areas of the country, supply is limited to a third party company and therefore a delivery charge is incurred. This obviously has to be passed on and can make quite a difference in the price of exchanges from site to site.

    Hope this helps

     

  • jeffcc
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    edited December 2016 #26

    Just to keep all informed the calor lite is now back in the same exchange bracket as the 6kg propane steel and the 19 and 47 kg bottles, So you can once again swop your heavy steel for a lite with no penalty.:-

    Calor bottles

  • JollyKernow
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    edited December 2016 #27

    You can only swop 6 lites for steels at a recognised dealer, not a stockist. The majority of club sites are just stockists and our contract states that we can only swop like for like. I'll know more when we get back to site in March and sign next years contract though.

  • Merve
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    edited January 2017 #28

    That is a problem for us non EHUers Brian. I noticed at the show that all the models I looked at had the blasted electric ring on the cooker!! The manufacturers seem to be in cahoots with the Energy companies and EHU sites rather than look at the technology that is available for non EHU caravanning. Perhaps, like thousands of users of their products, they don't think you can live well off grid? How wrong they are!! I'll just have to keep searching or have a 'special' fitted with a full gas cooker. I ain't going back to EHU- not now I've experienced the freedom of non EHU! 

  • Boff
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    edited January 2017 #29

    We have the electric ring. When not on ehu you it makes a useful stand for the coffee pot.  When on ehu it also makes a useful stand for the coffee pot as it is so slow to heat up.  More seriously I think that 4  burners is about marketing not practicality because firstly I can't remember I have needed more than three at any one time and secondly try fitting 4 pans on the hob of a slimline thetford aspire cooker they don't really fit. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2017 #30

     Just to say that I am happy to be able to buy my occasional replacement bottles on CC sites and grateful to the wardens for supplying. I have no grumble about their charges. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2017 #31

    I very much like having the electric ring. When doing a casserole/stew on the hob it is far more controllable for a slow simmer as the gas is a tad too fierce for some things. I have on occasion used all 4 rings but generally 3 suffice.