Making life easier with an air awning!

Wilbar
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edited August 2016 in Parts & Accessories #1

As we are getting older we are starting to struggle putting up the awning. Have thought about not using one at all but with the unpredictable British weather and having 2 dogs we feel we still need that extra space. We have looked at air awnings and the
one that interests us is the Sunncamp advanced air. Is there anyone out there who has experience of this product or can suggest another. 

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  • Briang
    Briang Club Member Posts: 670 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2016 #2

    We have a Kampa Rally Pro Air 390 a great awning don't know about the Sunncamp.

  • Wilbar
    Wilbar Forum Participant Posts: 26
    edited August 2016 #3

    Is it really as easy to put up as the salesman say?

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #4

    Never had a problem with awning poles, its the threading and pulling round the caravan awning rail and then pegging it out that takes the effort.

  • madhouse4
    madhouse4 Forum Participant Posts: 129
    edited August 2016 #5

    Never had a problem with awning poles, its the threading and pulling round the caravan awning rail and then pegging it out that takes the effort.

    That's my thoughts, we had a air awning last season that constantly leaked took it back and got our money back and bought a kampa awning with poles, in all honesty I find it easier than the air especially when packing away, the canvas is lighter, it's the
    pegging out for me that usually takes the time and effort!

  • Flappa30
    Flappa30 Forum Participant Posts: 33
    edited August 2016 #6

    We got back into caravanning this year and opted for an air awning (Kampa). We previously had a traditional poled awning. In terms of ease of putting up/taking down our experience is that it is dramatically different. Apart from the pull to get it into the
    rail, you could easily do it solo. We only have the hand pump as our is only 2.6m wide. You could opt for the electric pump now/later on.

    We did have an issue with ours to begin with where it would soften over a few hours, but I went round and tightened all of the valve connections a little and now is solid for at least 10 days (just come back from a trip).

    Haven't tested it in any really bad weather, but no reason to expect any problems.

    They really ARE that easy to put up. Once in the rail, ours takes about a dozen pumps for it to stand up. Then once adjusted a few more to firm it up. Ours is up and pegged ready to use in about 15-20 mins.

    To take down, just open the valves and it drops in a matter of seconds. Slide out of the rail, fold it up and into the bag. Done in less than ten mins.

    Haven't needed to yet, but I imagine it would also be easy to open up at home for drying out. Open out on lawn and pump up. It would have to be lying down unless you have a fence or wall to rest it against, but I think it would hold its shape well enough
    for drying.

    Watching couples while away recently going through the ritual with the poles etc...just made us more sure that we had made the right choice for us. No divorce in a bag with an air awning. Just my opinion of course.

  • johndailey
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    edited August 2016 #7

    We have the Kampa Rally Pro 260. Yes it is as easy as the manufacturers say. We had it up for the first time a few months ago and looking forward to using it again. We didn't get it perfect first time but sitting inside with a cup of tea or whatever, you
    can see how you can get it better next time. If you go on Utube, there are a couple of clips on there showing it being erected.

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited August 2016 #8

    As we are getting older we are starting to struggle putting up the awning. Have thought about not using one at all but with the unpredictable British weather and having 2 dogs we feel we still need that extra space. We have looked at air awnings and the
    one that interests us is the Sunncamp advanced air. Is there anyone out there who has experience of this product or can suggest another. 

    Write your comments here...there are some Kampa air awnings for sale in the classified section under accesories if you are looking for a used version. 

  • Solobay
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    edited August 2016 #9

    Kampa Air pro 290 - as above all say - same issue pulling through the channel - after that easy - Im so lazy i bought the proper kampa pump tp blow it up!!  The kampa I like as you can isolate particular tubes in case of a leak and then fix - as for pegging
    I have the screw in type and (loving gadgets) use the battery drill to sink them in - some sites do seem to have concrete as a base but always goes in! Storm kit worth the extra - ours has survived two fairly blowy storms as in gales and the kit allows it
    all to flex and just bounce back into shape - something a frame can;t do

    Once you have the folding technique no issues

    They are dearer but well worth it

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #10

    Pulling round the awning rail can take a beer, sorting conventional poles, half a beer but pegging out can take three beers so an air awning would only save half a beer.

  • johndailey
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    edited August 2016 #11

    Don't know how tall you are Fysherman but if you buy a barrel of beer, you can stand on the barrel to pull the awning through the rail and then drink to your hearts content. This also has the added advantage of lightening the barrel, thus not increasing
    the caravan noseweight too much when you decide to pack up and go home.

  • Fysherman
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    edited August 2016 #12

    Just under 6 foot but I see (and like) your logic.

  • johndailey
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    edited August 2016 #13

    Just under 6 foot but I see (and like) your logic.

    Write your comments here...You are probably tall enough but the barrel will certainly help. Dont wory about elf and safety as the weight of the full barrel will help to keep it stable. Dont forget to get it refilled at your next site. Hope this helps.

  • DEBSC
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    edited August 2016 #14

    Wilber, we have used a few awnings over the years, all with poles. Then two years ago we purchased a Kampa air pro 390. Best awning yet and really pleased with it. The very first time we put it up we did have a slight problem threading it through as it did
    seem heavy. We now have it down to a fine art, one threads it through, it helps if this person stands on the van steps, and the other stands away from the van spreading the awning out and taking the weight. So easy to pump up and so much easier than one with
    poles.

  • IanTG
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    edited August 2016 #15

    Agree wholeheartedly with comments about Kampa Pro Air, both about the tougher bit being pulling through rail, and the easier bit being inflating ( when compared to poles). We have two Kampas, one 200 for use as a weekend porch awning. And a 390 for longer
    stays. I invested in an electric pump, but a gentle hand pumping is not too onerous.

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited August 2016 #16

    Agree wholeheartedly with comments about Kampa Pro Air, both about the tougher bit being pulling through rail, and the easier bit being inflating ( when compared to poles). We have two Kampas, one 200 for use as a weekend porch awning. And a 390 for longer
    stays. I invested in an electric pump, but a gentle hand pumping is not too onerous.

    Write your comments here...We have inserted an eyelet into the leading end of the Kampa Airpro and attach a guy rope to have one pulling and one pushing, after giving the rail a squirt with silicone spray.

  • PrestonDave
    PrestonDave Forum Participant Posts: 67
    edited August 2016 #17

    We have a Vango Varkala and that has loops at each end of the rail fitting to put a guy rope onto. 

    I was in the caravan shop on Tuesday having a nosey round and noticed a metal rod made especialy for the job with a handle on one end and a hook at the other.

  • Mr H
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    edited August 2016 #18

    We have used our Rally Air 260 for nearly 2 1/2 years. As I have mentioned previously on another post we use a collapsable decorator's stand which is higher than the caravan steps. This means you do not have to stretch upwards when pulling the awning
    through the rail. We then use the stand as a low table especially when barbequeing. Whilst you still have to peg out, it is much easier when the awning is self supporting itself. You no longer have to pull the fabric at the same time as holding the peg as
    well as the mallet. Deflation and packing is as previously stated not a problem. We still have a number of neighbours coming over to say how impressed they are with the ease and speed it goes up. A few weeks a go I offered to help a guy erect a standard pole
    awning, with all the tubes colour coded, and realised I would never go back to this type of awning.

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2016 #19

    We have both a Kampa Air Pro 390 and a Sunncamp 220 which we use mainly in the winter because it's easier to dry if we have to pack it away wet. The Air Pro is a brilliant awning - we have used it extensively over the last 18 months in some horrendous weather
    and not only has it withstood that admirably, there is also no danger of damaging the van.  For all of its virtues, however, it is very heavy to get onto the awning rail and I carry a set of lightweight aluminium steps to allow me to get a straight pull on
    it when sliding it into the rail.

    On the other hand, the Sunncamp is extremely light and its a doddle to get on the rail by comparison.  It also has the advantage of not having either of the two poles touching the van.  As a shelter and storage for all those bits and bobs, it's ideal - and
    at £85, if it only lasts a couple of years, I'm not going to complain - but experience so far suggests it will be far more durable than that.

  • RedMick
    RedMick Forum Participant Posts: 173
    edited August 2016 #20

    We have a Vango Varkala and that has loops at each end of the rail fitting to put a guy rope onto. 

    I was in the caravan shop on Tuesday having a nosey round and noticed a metal rod made especialy for the job with a handle on one end and a hook at the other.

    Just like a peg puller then :-)

     

     

  • Labven
    Labven Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2016 #21

    With plenty of Wd40 Silicone spray in the awning channel it's possible to just push the awnimg cord through at face level at the back end of the van. Vango Varkala 280.

  • G Cherokee
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    edited August 2016 #22

    Question people,

    I gather that the awnings dont fix to the van down the sides,

    Excuse my ignorance but how is it kept wind and water tight???

  • DEBSC
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    edited August 2016 #23

    Question people,

    I gather that the awnings dont fix to the van down the sides,

    Excuse my ignorance but how is it kept wind and water tight???

    For our Kampa 390 air pro we also purchased two poles that fit in the cushioned strips that go up against the caravan, they fit snug and make it wind and water tight. We love this awning, best we have ever had, so easy.

  • Mr H
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    edited September 2016 #24

    We have the poles DEBSC mentions, but find we only use them in poor condiions. By pegging the nearest pegging point just under the caravan this pushes the cushion strip against the side of the caravan. As ours is a 260 we do not, however, go over a window which would prevent a seal without the poles.

     

  • johndailey
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    edited September 2016 #25

    With plenty of Wd40 Silicone spray in the awning channel it's possible to just push the awnimg cord through at face level at the back end of the van. Vango Varkala 280.

    Write your comments here...Is there any possibility of the Silicone spray damaging/degrading the edge of the awning (after a long period)?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #26

    With plenty of Wd40 Silicone spray in the awning channel it's possible to just push the awnimg cord through at face level at the back end of the van. Vango Varkala 280.

    Write your comments here...Is there any possibility of the Silicone spray damaging/degrading the edge of the awning (after a long period)?

    Never did on my last awning ..... 

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #27

    Isabella sell a silicon spray called Aquatex which smells exactly like the cheaper Fabsil spray. Not tried it mind but as Fabsil is for tents I cannot see it doing any harm. 

    WD40? Is that sillicon? Thought it was a petroleum based spray.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #28

    Isabella sell a silicon spray called

    WD40? Is that sillicon? Thought it was a petroleum based spray.

    Different product ..... WD also do a silicone spray Wink

  • AutoAddict
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    edited September 2016 #29

    WD40 is a water repelant, not a lubricant.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #30

    WD40 is a water repelant, not a lubricant.

    Yes, Barry, but as above WD40 also do a silicon spray 

    http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p89943?mkwid=sAcH0FFtg_dc&pcrid=46335367343&pkw=&pmt=&product=89943&gclid=CJ3nqd6Y8M4CFaUV0wodPgcD8A

  • Mr H
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    edited September 2016 #31

    WD40 is a brand name and they produce a range of products of which the most common one is a lubricant. Their website shows over 2000 varied and different uses. The list is worth a quick browse as there are some uses you would never imagine.