Gas regulator is it u/s?

greylag
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edited April 2016 in Parts & Accessories #1

Just got back from 3 days away and no gas, luckily we have an electric hotplate, so we were able to eat.  

I thought the near empty bottle might not have enough pressure to push any gas through, but connecting a full bottle produced the same result.  Someone said that the regulators get clogged up with oil from the gas and sure enough there is some oil draing
from it.  Is this how they normally fail and can they be cleaned?

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #2

    They are known to get clogged with oil residue ,more so if the regulator is mounted lower than the cylinder,i am not sure if they can be cleaned ,it is normally a replacement,if you get a replacement see if it can be mounted higher,and while you are at it
    replace the hose,preferably with a stainless steel alternative 

  • greylag
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    edited April 2016 #3

    JVB66

    Many thanks for your reply, I will pick one up tomorrow, another £49 down the swanney.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited April 2016 #4

    Is it all your gas appliances or is it the cutoff switch on the hob lid?

  • greylag
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    edited April 2016 #5

    Never thought of that, will go out and have a look once the rains stops.  Many thanks.

  • ocsid
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    edited April 2016 #6

    "Reportedly" there is one type of dual stage regulator that has been by far the most effected by "oiling"; sold under two brand names.

    There are single stage replacement regulators that again "reportedly" are not so "sensitive" to this issue.

    The Cleese ones seem well liked;

    http://www.clesse.co.uk/product/000893ah/

    http://www.gaslowdirect.com/epages/cyujrhdmmu67.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/cyujrhdmmu67/Products/01-1770/SubProducts/01-1770

    The argument is the "oil" has to go somewhere so if not collecting in the regulator it is collecting elsewhere in the pipework and going on its way. Having said that  I have owned vans for 13, 8 & 8 years, in those periods it never got anywhere to harm me.

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  • GFC
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    edited April 2016 #8

    Hi,

    I had the Truma regulator problem a couple of weeks ago whilst getting the van ready for this year's 1st outing. Spoke to my local independent dealer and they recommended changing the Truma reg with an Italian brand reg (cavagna group) which is CE certified
    and complies with EN 12864 annex D (just the same as the Truma. This one cost.....£26.99.  It's been fitted and seems fine.....so far!

  • kenexton
    kenexton Forum Participant Posts: 306
    edited April 2016 #9

    We had this happen to us once,my sympathies to you.When the reg was replaced we also fitted a Gaslow stainless pigtail and in the six years since we have had no bother at all.

  • Boff
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    edited April 2016 #10

    When my Truma regulator went. I replaced it with a Cavagna auto changeover regulator.  This was actually cheaper than a replacement standard Truma regulator and as stated above complies with same regulations.  A couple of things I don't understand why did
    the alleged oil problem only occur when there was the change to the bulkhead regulator?  Also if a build up of oil is the problem given that we can use as much gas in a weekend as some of you use in a season.  How come our regulator lasted as long as it did.
     

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  • Boff
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    edited April 2016 #12

    IMHO it had dammed all to do with “oil”.  The Truma trauma regulators are simply not fit for purpose.  They seem unable to operate reliably in the environment and with the medium they are supposedly designed to work in and with.  

    Can't disagree with you.  But it cons people into extra expense of SS hoses and gas filters progress I guess

  • greylag
    greylag Club Member Posts: 585
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    edited April 2016 #13

    The Truma is on its way to me via 1st class post.

    I do not have much time to try other types as we go to Holland in a few days and buying like for like seemed to be the best, although if it goes again in the future, I will try another type.  Many thanks for the replies.

  • briantimber
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    edited April 2016 #14

    I also ageree with you DD, I fell foul of the dreaded Truma problem after six months use, we have had the M'home almost from new and were the only ones who had used the habitation side, replaced it with a gaslow and stainless tail (which are guaranteed for
    five years), not had a problem since. Must admit it was a bit baffling when it happened as I nearly tore the gas system apart looking for a blockage, a quick call to my mobile engineer soon set me on the right track......Cool

  • briantimber
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    edited April 2016 #15

    Sorry greylag but I don't have any faith in Truma, you may need more than one replacementFrown. Hope I'm wrong....Cool

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  • Boff
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    edited April 2016 #17

    A lot of inferior continental vans still have bottle mounted regulators imagine that!

  • davebakerpurton
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    edited April 2016 #18

    A lot of inferior continental vans still have bottle mounted regulators imagine that!

    And a lot of superior continental vans do too as they realise you dont get the "oiling" problem with them

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  • greylag
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    edited April 2016 #20

    The reg is now fitted and gas service has resumed.  I did replace with another Truma, so will hope it outlasts my ownership of the van.  

    Thanks to all for the replies.

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  • greylag
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    edited April 2016 #22

    You can't beat a bit of humour, always lightens the day.