Tow Bar Socket types

Mr H
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edited February 2016 in Parts & Accessories #1

I have just had a dedicated wired towbar fitted to my new car. The socket is the 13 pin type. However, when trying to fit the plug from my caravan the pin/sockets are not compatible and also the rims are differing sizes. Do any of you know if there is a
far eastern specification that differs from the European standard? My car was manufactured in Malaysia and the kit was provided by them.The car is a Hyundai Tucson latest specification.

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  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #2

    Are you sure the pins in your plug are not out of alignment. A little green gismo is usually supplied to sort it out. Or at least it was with our van. It came in a bits and pieces bag with the new van.

  • Mr H
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    edited February 2016 #3

    Yes I have tried that, but I cannot even get the socket to start going in let alone then align with the pins. This seems to be because the recess diameter on the socket is smaller than the rim diameter on the plug.

    I think I will take my car to a friend's caravan and see if it fits his. I have reported back to the car dealership but they will have to find out from HO as they are not experts in towbars.Meanwhile I can't use the caravan.

  • Mr H
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    edited February 2016 #5

    Thanks Redkite2 I have tried that. Later today I will try connecting up to my friend's caravan.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #6

    Any damage on either of them? Undecided

  • Mr H
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    edited February 2016 #7

    Oh how I wish I could master posting a photo on here, as I have taken one of each component, and enlarged them. This has enabled me to have a good look in detail and there does not seem to be any damage. Thanks for your interst MollysMummy.

  • EJB986
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    edited February 2016 #8

    I have a KIA with the factory socket.

    It's the most fiddly and difficult connection I have experienced.

    However it is getting a lot easier after a few dozen uses.

    KIA/Hyundai....it's probably the same item!!

    PS. The critical point is to actually start the rotation.

  • Mr H
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    edited February 2016 #9

    Thanks EJB986, at least I don't think I am going mad.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #10

    My Hymer hand book lists two types of 13 pin plug. The first they describe as Jaeger and that's the one every one has.  The second one they describe as Multikon and it looks quite different in the drawing.  I personnally have never seen one but  they must exist somewhere.  

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    have  look here Wikipedia never lies

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #11

    Oh how I wish I could master posting a photo on here,  ....

    So do I ... I gave up ages back. I just post the link now

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #12

     .....  The second one they describe as Multikon and it looks quite different in the drawing.  I personnally have never seen one but  they must exist somewhere.  ....

    I've seen one once. A Dutch man was re-wiring his caravan plug on a site in France and that's what he had .... looks like a 12N but with additional flat spade connectors around the edge

  • Navigateur
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    edited February 2016 #13

    have  look here Wikipedia never lies

    . . . but it does contain much written in American language by people who know only part of the information.

    This is their entry for the 13-pin connector used in UK and (most of) EU.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_11446



  • Mr H
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    edited February 2016 #14

    Boff I have checked it is a 13 pin socket of the standard layout but seems smaller. I have just tried hooking up to a friend's caravan and that did not work either. Also I have found even with the flap opened fully I dont think the plug would be able to
    turn due to the latch part on the plug catching on the flap. So dealership here I come.

  • Navigateur
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    edited February 2016 #15

    Sorry about this chaps, but I got bummed out by the site as I was correcting the link in the post above.  Should be:-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_standards_for_trailer_connectors

     

     

     

  • Mr H
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    edited March 2016 #16

    For those interested in an update. The Sales Manager tried and failed to put my friend's trailer lead in five times. However, the installer put his test rig lead in first time. He then with some effort put in my friend's lead. Two issues were apparent. The socket inside diameter was tight and the car bodywork was preventing the socket flap to open beyond 90 degrees, causing difficulty when turning the plug due to it's flat piece hitting the socket flap. The installer suggested cutting some of the bodywork away which I refused. So we reached stalemate, as it was only my caravan plug that would not fit. So I contacted a mobile caravan service company and they fitted a new plug to my caravan and then turned the car socket 90 degrees to the left so the flap opening was not restricted by the bodywork. So now we can book our first trip. Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this post.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #17

    For those interested in an update. ....

    It's always good to get an update. Glad you're sorted Happy