Auto or manual mover

Qashqai66
Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
edited February 2016 in Parts & Accessories #1

We have a Powrtouch evolution on our caravan which we are currently trading in as we want a fixed bed.  The dealer has been trying to interest me in the idea of a replacement mover on the basis that, as we are in our 70's, an automatic one would make life
easier.  We still have some warranty on the present one and I think the additional expenditure might be considerable.  On the other hand I suffer with costochondritis so wonder if the automatic version might be a really good investment.  What do other people
think about the automatic ones?

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  • newagetraveller
    newagetraveller Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2016 #2

    We changed vans and went from a manual to auto engage. Well worth the extra money, just stand aside and use the hand held control. We chose pwrtouch due to their warranty great bit of kit.

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  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #4

    Thanks so much to you both.  Two totally opposing replies!  I had already wondered what might happen if the mechanism jams.  I will hold on to the mover we have for now.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited February 2016 #5

    We're just in the process of changing our mover to a manual Powertouch.  I did read some adverse comments about the automatic version as well as the cost. I was worried that I might struggle engaging the manual one but, after a test in the workshop, I'm
    happy to say we're going with the manual one.   It's much quicker.

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  • DSB
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    edited February 2016 #6

    I think I will go for an automatic next time.

    David 

  • Richard12
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    edited February 2016 #7

    We have had both, now have the automatic Powertouch, it is slightly heavier than the manual. I am pleased with it nad also very pleased with Powertouch back-up it is second to none.

    If you go for the automatic when using it take your time & don't try to rush the procedure. Good Luck 

  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #8

    All the comments have been most useful.  I think we will carry on with the manual.  My thinking is that if I can manage an Al-Ko hitch then I can manage a manual engagement mover.  In fact the one thing I will miss on the previous van is the Winterhoff hitch
    which I found so much easier to use than the Al-Ko on the van before that.  The Winterhoff requires much less muscle power and has only one action rather than the two on the Al-Ko.  On the other hand I have never used the newer Al-Ko, the one with the black
    handle.  I may find it easier so here's hoping.

  • paulgill
    paulgill Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited February 2016 #9

    Hi

     I think power touch do an upgrade to auto depending on the model Might be worth a call.

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #10

    Our mover is a manual engage but would i change to an auto one ? to be honest as long as i can still fit enough too engage it i would stay with the manual type.Auto is fine until it malfunctions and then i would imagine it could be a real problem.

    peter.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited February 2016 #11

    Those were my thoughts Peter.  The only down side that I can see at the moment, having just brought it home, is that the van appears to travels rather more slowly with the mover engaged but engaging it is a doddle.

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  • DSB
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    edited February 2016 #12

    Yes, I was wondering about malfunction of the automatic mover.  I guess there is a manual override??

    David 

  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #13

    I could be wrong but I don't think there is a manual override.  I am definitely holding on to our manual version.

  • wye
    wye Forum Participant Posts: 241
    edited February 2016 #14

    After taking advice from fellow members I purchased the powertouch classic which is manual , so far very pleased with it .

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #15

    do you all have manual windows in yor cars ..... just in case Innocent

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #16

    I can drive home with the car window down but i cant if the van wheels are locked up
    Innocent

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  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #17

    I could be wrong but I don't think there is a manual override.  I am definitely holding on to our manual version.

    You are wrong, at least in part, there is a manual override for taking it off if it fails to disengage. However, I am fairly sure this does not work for putting it on.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #18

    We have the automatic version on this van, previously had manual. I get the impression that adjustment is less important on the automatic, as it presses into the tyre until it cuts out on load, rather than rotating a cam, as on our manual version.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #19

    I can drive home with the car window down but i cant if the van wheels are locked up
    Innocent

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    and when was the last time a leccy window on one of your cars failed? Wink

  • wye
    wye Forum Participant Posts: 241
    edited February 2016 #20

    I can drive home with the car window down but i cant if the van wheels are locked up Innocent

     

    and when was the last time a leccy on one of your windows failed? Wink

    Write your comments here... Cor blimey my Landrover drivers window failed today , think its the linkage , still at least its closed lol give me manual anytime !

  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #21

    I cannot hlep but wonder if the automatic versionis a bit of a gimmick.  If you can manage to hitch on then surely the manual engagement cannot be too much of a challenge.  Our delaer was very keen to try and sell me a new automatic version but loth to take
    our two year old manual in part exchange.  This leads me to assume that the mark up on  new sales is considerble.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #22

    I cannot hlep but wonder if the automatic versionis a bit of a gimmick.  If you can manage to hitch on then surely the manual engagement cannot be too much of a challenge.  Our delaer was very keen to try and sell me a new automatic version
    but loth to take our two year old manual in part exchange.  This leads me to assume that the mark up on  new sales is considerble.

    You might think so, but Mrs SteveL used to really struggle with the manual engagement, however managed OK with the alco hitch.

  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #23

    And here I am being anxious about whether or not I will manage the Al-Ko hitch on our new caravan.  I manage the manual engagement on the mover easily and the Winterhoff hitch on our Eldiss Xplore is so easy to use.  I will only be hitching on with it once
    more when I take it to part exchange in ten days time.

  • dreamer1
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    edited February 2016 #24

    I bought an all wheel power touch for my twin axle 2013 Barcelona when it works it is wonderfull but it has stopped on many occasions for no reason and has to be reset by turning it off and on. have had a few very awkward moments on site.since it was fitted
    new it has had 2 motors replaced because of faults, the 2 blue control boxes inside the van have been replaced then while in for its last service 2 more were changed because the white powder coating was flaking off. I thought I was buying the best on the market
    . I must say that all the faults were done under warranty at no cost to myself but have gone through many frustrating times on site and at home . I had a a manual mover on my last van and never had any problems. To be honest I am allways suprised when it actually
    works with no problems and dont have much confidence when i come to use it.

     

  • TheAdmiral
    TheAdmiral Forum Participant Posts: 506
    edited February 2016 #25

    Manual, we have an Auto and it has been nothing but trouble, burnt out motors, had to call out PT several times to change the motors, PT I must say have been brilliant, but Auto is a no no for me

    Admiral

  • Pippah45
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    edited February 2016 #26

    I just asked this question in a new thread - thank you Jill for pointing me here.  Looks like manual wins the day to me!  The upside is money saved against physical effort! 

  • Tirril
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    edited February 2016 #27

    We have had both and now on an auto. No difficulies whatsover and even if it failed to disengage you are given a tool to manually unwind so no problems. The additional cost was not that much and I would certainly but an auto in future.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited February 2016 #28

    The manual Pwrtouch we had on our Bailey required a lot of effort to engage until I started to use a very heavy socket bar that I had in the garage which was purpose made to remove wheel hub nuts. It worked very well. Maybe the Evolution is easier to operate
    but it is something to check before buying a mover.

  • Qashqai66
    Qashqai66 Forum Participant Posts: 551
    edited February 2016 #29

    I find the extending socket bar provided by Powrtouch works well.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2016 #30

    I don't find that I need to extend the handle to engage my manual Powrtouch. Perhaps some of you lot either need to eat more weetabix or apply some grease to the moving parts. Wink

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #31

    I don't find that I need to extend the handle to engage my manual Powrtouch. Perhaps some of you lot either need to eat more weetabix or apply some grease to the moving parts. Wink

    Write your comments here... Other cereals are available.  Undecided