WasteMaster....Friend or Fo?
Is it just me? ... I find my WasteMaster a hiddeous beest. It is ungainly; awkward to stow.
When I need to empty it, it is badly ballanced and therefore extremely heavy to manoever. Although it has 3 possible outlets, if the emptying point has a sill none are really usefull and I have to lift the thing up. by hand.
Surely it must be possible to improve on the present design? ... suggestions?
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Ours fits in our front locker.
If the emptying point is awkward, I try to empty before it gets too full to manage.
You could always use a MH service point, we often do that abroad where grey water seems to be a mystery and you get directed to the CDP.
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When emptying points have been awkward, not very often as CC sites seem to have level emptying points, we have used a bucket, or the WM and just not filled it. As KjellNN says you can always use the MH service point if it is not to much of a hike. Ours is cleaned off and travels in the van with the two barrels. They all wedge nicely together.
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I was at the CC Site in Malvern back in the summer and started talking to a couple of neighbours with similar units who had travelled from the South West together, I noticed on the waste water pipe on both vans the normal flexible pipe fed out to a long
metal cylinder with multiple holes drilled all around, needless to say the fluid drained directly into Grass where any larger item were caught in the cylinder. The guy suggested he made it for him and his buddy's van in his garden shed. I was unsure if this
was the "done thing" but it did save taking the WM over to drainage, but I still had reservations on CC's attitudes to this type of system.0 -
Somehow, i think this would not meet with approval!
If they are too lazy to empty a Wastemaster they should use sites with serviced pitches.
It's one thing running a pipe into the hedge on a CL, with the owner's approval, but letting water drain onto the grass round the pitch is pretty anti-social.
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Certainly if you are using the van sink for washing up as we do this would not be a good idea. The water is not particularly clean and there is about 40 L a day of it. If you were also using the shower there would be another 40 L or so. If everybody decided
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Our Wastemaster travels in a bag in the caravan,what is the problem?. When we pack up we just swill it out empty it, add a drop of Jeyes,screw it up and pop it in it's bag and into the caravan. We have a 4x4 so there is room for it!,but prefer it in the
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Certainly if you are using the van sink for washing up as we do this would not be a good idea. The water is not particularly clean and there is about 40 L a day of it. If you were also using the shower there would be another 40 L or so. If everybody decided
on this method things could get a little messy.steve, do you really mean/use 80 ltr water a day? you must spend all day with your aquaroll or wastemaster...
we cook, wash up drink tea/coffee, shower in our van and our 110 ltr tank lasts 4 or 5 days so 22 ish ltr a day.....thats a serious difference.....thank goodness we dont have to hump water about of it were used at the rate you describe....
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.... The water is not particularly clean and ....
How dirty can the water be? It's only a bit of soap & any bits of food small enough to go down the plug hole.
The state of the discharged water is one concern, but so also is the quantity of water. Last thing we need are soggier pitches.
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I remove the waste master wheels it then fits perfectly in the caravan boot I leave enough space so the wide end fits around one of the gas bottles ....
Water usage , we use Basic sites mainly, less than 20 ltrs per shower I reckon ...
Happy 2016 ......
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Is it just me? ... I find my WasteMaster a hiddeous beest. It is ungainly; awkward to stow.
Yes, I agree - and aquarolls even more so.
Having "gone native" after so many continental tours we travel happily without either of those beasts.
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Is it just me? ... I find my WasteMaster a hiddeous beest. It is ungainly; awkward to stow.
Yes, I agree - and aquarolls even more so.
Having "gone native" after so many continental tours we travel happily without either of those beasts.
Hang on what ... my front boot packed as follows ....2 .. 6.5 gas bottles each side of them a 40 ltr aqua roll , along the front of the bottles the waste master less the wheels , they just slot in , the aqua roll handles just fit in , my leveling ramps and
wooden blocks too ....I have a Challenger Sport with an average size boot .
In all I think The waste master and the Aqua Rolls are superb !
Write your comments here...
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You "boot" must be quite large, ours would not hold all that!
We have a Sterling Searcher, 2008 vintage.
I have moved the gas bottles (2 x 6kg Gaslow) over slightly to allow the WM (wheels removed) to fit easily at one side of them, no way could I ever fit in even one Aquaroll!
I can however fit in the Aquaroll handle, various pipes, levelling blocks etc.
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I would say you are very frugal with the water BB!
We always cook/wash up in the van, we would usually get through about 15-20 litres per day for that. If we both also use the shower then that would rise to at least 40 litres per day.
a full Truma hot water boiler is 10 ltr. heat this to 60 deg, mix with 3 or so litres of cold (during the shower proc ss) to give a good shower temp and youll only use 13 ltrs max for two showers.....and thats if you drain the hot tank, which we dont.....
so, i reckon we use around ten ltrs for our showering, that leaves 12 ltr for washing up and tea! ..of we use around 22 a day.
...id say thats more than enough.....
if someone really uses 80 ltrs a day, thats two trips with an aqaroll and two trips to the waste point with the wastemaster every day.....no thanks....
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Daily ritual on site in UK, fill aquaroll and empty wastemaster. No stress as neither full/empty. They fit in the (small) boot of my Tiguan when travelling and if I put 1/3rd of rear seats down can get awning in boot as well. Never use caravan shower and on continent tend to wash up etc using site facilities so fill up/empty often an every second day task. Yes, I too usually use MH service point to empty wastemaster.
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Certainly if you are using the van sink for washing up as we do this would not be a good idea. The water is not particularly clean and there is about 40 L a day of it. If you were also using the shower there would be another 40 L or so. If everybody decided
on this method things could get a little messy.steve, do you really mean/use 80 ltr water a day? you must spend all day with your aquaroll or wastemaster...
we cook, wash up drink tea/coffee, shower in our van and our 110 ltr tank lasts 4 or 5 days so 22 ish ltr a day.....thats a serious difference.....thank goodness we dont have to hump water about of it were used at the rate you describe....
No only 40 L max a day normally, we generally use the site showers unless on a service pitch. The only other time we would use the van shower is if the facilities were exceptionally busy. It's not always 40L but I normally fill up / empty anyway.
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Oh Well !.... no revolutionary suggestions for improvement of the WasteMaster.
I'm now thinking along the lines of an electric pump to transfer the contents of the WasteMaster to a dedicated AquaRoll for easier emptying. Just need them to be available in another colour to avoid confusion
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Vic, you have put the wheels on your waste master ,haven't you!!!
You've just given me an idea! ... If the wheels were bigger then you could wheel it the other way up, and then the ballance would be better. Brilliant!
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Vic, you have put the wheels on your waste master ,haven't you!!!
You've just given me an idea! ... If the wheels were bigger then you could wheel it the other way up, and then the ballance would be better. Brilliant!
it wasnt Vic who was practising with the wheelie bins, was it?
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Vic, you have put the wheels on your waste master ,haven't you!!!
You've just given me an idea! ... If the wheels were bigger then you could wheel it the other way up, and then the ballance would be better. Brilliant!
Only here to help!!
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Oh Well !.... no revolutionary suggestions for improvement of the WasteMaster.
I'm now thinking along the lines of an electric pump to transfer the contents of the WasteMaster to a dedicated AquaRoll for easier emptying. Just need them to be available in another colour to avoid confusion
How about one of those smaller Fiamma waste containers?
They don't hold as much, but that would make it easier to lift if necessary.
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Sorry, I just don't understand Wastemasters, even after 30 years caravanning. A ridiculous object to carry around.
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Ours fits in our front locker.
If the emptying point is awkward, I try to empty before it gets too full to manage.
You could always use a MH service point, we often do that abroad where grey water seems to be a mystery and you get directed to the CDP.
We keep ours in the front locker too. Generally I find it a little awkward, but not too bad. I can't recall seeing anything better.
David
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Mine goes under the fixed bed together with two folding chairs. I don't understand some peoples aversion to wastemasters. In days of yore I had an old square plastic jerrycan which held about 30L. That was heavy to carry. Anyway, what is the alternative to a wastemaster? A plastic bucket that holds 10-12L? Yeah, that's going to be really convenient.
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