Membership renewal premium
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Thankyou, Sefton. No worries.
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Why is it that whenever someone raises (in my opinion) a very valid point - in this case, that the CC have applied a very significant (in percentage terms) increase to their 'membership' fee - that we always get this chorus of "if you don't like it then
don't join"?Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
When petrol / diesel goes up the day after oil went up a few dollars a barrel (when we were told that it takes months for a reduction in oil prices to reach the pumps) - do you just smile and pay it?
Of course people have a right to complain about unjustified increases! And that is all that the op did. They complained that the 'Club' made no attempt to explain this increase to its 'members'.
What other members-club would do that?
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I think some people need to get real about what goes off in life ,
£2 increase is really nothing to get worked up over , there again a few months ago we had the moaners berating a £1 increase on non toilet block pitches , get a life or leave
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Why is it that whenever someone raises (in my opinion) a very valid point - in this case, that the CC have applied a very significant (in percentage terms) increase to their 'membership' fee - that we always get this chorus of "if you don't like it then
don't join"?Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
When petrol / diesel goes up the day after oil went up a few dollars a barrel (when we were told that it takes months for a reduction in oil prices to reach the pumps) - do you just smile and pay it?
Of course people have a right to complain about unjustified increases! And that is all that the op did. They complained that the 'Club' made no attempt to explain this increase to its 'members'.
What other members-club would do that?
Write your comments here...what other club would have it's regular share of moaners , knockers & cliche of posters who always seem to jump in on just about anything & everything
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in fairness i think that its all aspects of the CC 'money machine' that is coming to the fore....large increases in pitch fees, along with a broadening of peak periods to catch more folk at premium rates and now an arbitrary increase in the fee required
to participate....taken individually, and at face value, a couple of quid is neither here nor there, but its the constant process of extracting a little more that grates, i guess....
the realignment of 'season dates' is reminicent of a Chancellor using 'fiscal drag' to obtain a larger tax take....thoroughly sneaky IMHO
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Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
No we all have choices, its up to us as individuals to exercise them!
The same old same old is trotted out when prices rise i.e. living wage etc., what most forget is that even if some staff are on the living wage the vast majority won't be, so if there is an increase don't forget that the club/employer will have to pay NHI at nearly 12% plus in a lot of cases pensions increases and payroll burdens Any salary increase will come with at least a total of 15% add ons. I'm sure we all want to see the club staff getting paid properly
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I was merely asking if any members knew a reason why the subscription fee has gone up by 14 and a half times that of inflation. It would appear that no-one does so I will take it up with the CC.
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Why is it that whenever someone raises (in my opinion) a very valid point - in this case, that the CC have applied a very significant (in percentage terms) increase to their 'membership' fee - that we always get this chorus of "if you don't like it then don't join"?
Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
When petrol / diesel goes up the day after oil went up a few dollars a barrel (when we were told that it takes months for a reduction in oil prices to reach the pumps) - do you just smile and pay it?
Of course people have a right to complain about unjustified increases! And that is all that the op did. They complained that the 'Club' made no attempt to explain this increase to its 'members'.
What other members-club would do that?
Write your comments here...Don't know of any. ------- Most customer aware companies who value their customers give an explanation of why they have to increase their prices.
K
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Our flying club shares the accounts figures with the members and explained in detail why they needed to make a temporary increase in fees (after 3 years of no increases, despite also employing staff who need pay increases).
Yes it's 'only' £2 but as others say, it's £2 on top of other increases (pitch fees) that already cover site staff cost increases many times over.
Going back to the petrol analogy, would an increase of 'only' £0.10 per litre for no given reason be reasonable?
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Most companies would not tolerate what goes on in this forum as it presents a disgraceful shop window to the world.
Therefore, we conclude CC higher managers either don't read it or don't care so what chance is there of getting meaningful answers to questions asked on here? Might as well go and clean the car instead.
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A reason for the price rise certainly is not an unreasonable request. Other organisations / suppliers I deal always give one. Unfortunately they are normally not worth the pixels they are written with. BT's started we are improving your service and giving
you these other services, none of which I use, before tell me my bill would be going up £2 a month.0 -
Most companies would not tolerate what goes on in this forum as it presents a disgraceful shop window to the world.
Therefore, we conclude CC higher managers either don't read it or don't care so what chance is there of getting meaningful answers to questions asked on here? Might as well go and clean the car instead.
Write your comments here... finally the penny is starting to drop , write to the CC with any concerns that you special members have instead of the constant waffle nonsense that is sadly becoming the norm on almost every post , regarding fee's, charges &
whatever the CC seems to do .If you don't like the way the CC works , the choice is yours.
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Most companies would not tolerate what goes on in this forum as it presents a disgraceful shop window to the world.
Therefore, we conclude CC higher managers either don't read it or don't care so what chance is there of getting meaningful answers to questions asked on here? Might as well go and clean the car instead.
Write your comments here... finally the penny is starting to drop , write to the CC with any concerns that you special members have instead of the constant waffle nonsense that is sadly becoming the norm on almost every post , regarding fee's, charges &
whatever the CC seems to do .If you don't like the way the CC works , the choice is yours.
...as is the choice to participate in this thread or not
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Most companies would not tolerate what goes on in this forum as it presents a disgraceful shop window to the world.
Therefore, we conclude CC higher managers either don't read it or don't care so what chance is there of getting meaningful answers to questions asked on here? Might as well go and clean the car instead.
Write your comments here... If you dont like the CC forum and its members, may I suggest there are alternative forums.
Mind you some are so unused and boring that they resemble the Mary Celeste.
k
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Sefton, I think you are in the wrong Club. C&CC membership is only £37, if you pay on line, maybe other commitments, I don't know and to be honest I don't really care. This is no longer a "club" and hasn't been in all but constitution for a very long time. It is a commercial enterprise, providing and trying to cover costs as best it can for those willing to buy into the scheme. Those who join will have made an informed decision as to whether or not they will get "value for money" from paying in, perhaps from the access to good Club Sites, from the CL network, from the special offers, for aspects that help touring abroad. Only the individual can determine if that payment is of value to them. I don't think the Club will care two hoots about a complaint, because they are giving members the opportunity to get the fees back.
Edit: there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
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Sefton, I think you are in the wrong Club. C&CC membership is only £37, if you pay on line, maybe other commitments, I don't know and to be honest I don't really care. This is no longer a "club" and hasn't been in all but constitution for a very long time.
It is a commercial enterprise, providing and trying to cover costs as best it can for those willing to buy into the scheme. Those who join will have made an informed decision as to whether or not they will get "value for money" from paying in, perhaps from
the access to good Club Sites, from the CL network, from the special offers, for aspects that help touring abroad. Only the individual can determine if that payment is of value to them. I don't think the Club will care two hoots about a complaint, because
they are giving members the opportunity to get the fees back.Edit: there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
Write your comments here...right on the money sir well said
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there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
Post of the day, even the week
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Why is it that whenever someone raises (in my opinion) a very valid point - in this case, that the CC have applied a very significant (in percentage terms) increase to their 'membership' fee - that we always get this chorus of "if you don't like it then
don't join"?Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
When petrol / diesel goes up the day after oil went up a few dollars a barrel (when we were told that it takes months for a reduction in oil prices to reach the pumps) - do you just smile and pay it?
Of course people have a right to complain about unjustified increases! And that is all that the op did. They complained that the 'Club' made no attempt to explain this increase to its 'members'.
What other members-club would do that?
Write your comments here...what other club would have it's regular share of moaners , knockers & cliche of posters who always seem to jump in on just about anything & everything
..Just about any club or organisation in the country
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It's my stock answer when OH asks if I want to go to a football match! My response is "who are they playing?" Given the price of a ticket, I don't go to watch cloggers, I like quality to yell at!
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Most companies would not tolerate what goes on in this forum as it presents a disgraceful shop window to the world.
Therefore, we conclude CC higher managers either don't read it or don't care so what chance is there of getting meaningful answers to questions asked on here? Might as well go and clean the car instead.
Write your comments here... finally the penny is starting to drop , write to the CC with any concerns that you special members have instead of the constant waffle nonsense that is sadly becoming the norm on almost every post , regarding fee's, charges &
whatever the CC seems to do .If you don't like the way the CC works , the choice is yours.
Hey, it's not me who's only now realised this. I've known it for years. I'm merely stating things as they are - the reality.
Neither am I complaining or whinging.
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We may well not renew our membership, not because of the cost just that we hardly ever use sites in the UK and I'm pretty sure we could always find commercial/private sites for when we do need them. The ferry was the same price as I could get it direct or
through other operators. The Red Penant didn't cover all the items that I wanted covered and it was more expensive. I'm not sure that being a member is giving us any benifits, given that there is no loyalty benifit for renewing every year we may just leave
it and rejoin if in the future we intend to use sites in the UK, if using CL's for a few nights then being a member is well worth it.0 -
Sefton, I think you are in the wrong Club. C&CC membership is only £37, if you pay on line, maybe other commitments, I don't know and to be honest I don't really care. This is no longer a "club" and hasn't been in all but constitution for a very long time.
It is a commercial enterprise, providing and trying to cover costs as best it can for those willing to buy into the scheme. Those who join will have made an informed decision as to whether or not they will get "value for money" from paying in, perhaps from
the access to good Club Sites, from the CL network, from the special offers, for aspects that help touring abroad. Only the individual can determine if that payment is of value to them. I don't think the Club will care two hoots about a complaint, because
they are giving members the opportunity to get the fees back.Edit: there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
I am a member of the C&CC and the CC. BTW the analogy of the football match ticket is just about as irrelevant to the OP as you could possibly get. No-one said anything about not liking the CC; I merely wanted to know if anyone new why the subscription
had gone up so disproportionately. I had no idea people would get so excited about it.0 -
Just for ino the C&CC subscription was £41 in 2013, £42 in 2014, £43 in 2015 & £43 in 2016. And please - no posts inviting me to leave the CC and just remain with the C&CC; I want to be a member of both.
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My analogy was about perceived value. Whether or not you choose to remain a member of either Club will be a decision for you and the values you attach to your membership, even if the price is raised.
Personally, I wouldn't waste the price of a stamp, nor the effort of putting finger to email pad to complain. However, sometimes it does feel good to get things off one's chest!
Edit: you can save £6 on your C&CC membership if you join online, take a look, still £37!
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there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
Post of the day, even the week
......and a point that has been replied to and explained many times over now, but still some don't seem to understand.
How many more times do you need?
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there are also those who moan and whinge about membership fees, site fees, and other aspects. The bottom line question truly is, why join or remain a member if you are so dissatisfied? It's like buying a ticket for a football team you dislike! Bonkers!
Post of the day, even the week
......and a point that has been replied to and explained many times over now, but still some don't seem to understand.
How many more times do you need?
Just run the explanation past me one more time, Ian!
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Why is it that whenever someone raises (in my opinion) a very valid point - in this case, that the CC have applied a very significant (in percentage terms) increase to their 'membership' fee - that we always get this chorus of "if you don't like it then
don't join"?Do these people just pay any increase on anything they buy, without complaint? Whether the increase is justified or not?
When petrol / diesel goes up the day after oil went up a few dollars a barrel (when we were told that it takes months for a reduction in oil prices to reach the pumps) - do you just smile and pay it?
Of course people have a right to complain about unjustified increases! And that is all that the op did. They complained that the 'Club' made no attempt to explain this increase to its 'members'.
What other members-club would do that?
Of course they do, as they know that whatever they do they won't be able to change it, and thay have to have the fuel to get where thay are going. Remember when it was £1:50 per ltr most people did not reduce their motoring.
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It is true that any increase needed might be tied to the actual costs of the club that probably have not coincided with the inflation rate. Inflation is based on the costs incurred by individuals based on a basket of goods and services that are totally irrelevant
to the clubs expenses although the increase though ahead of inflation is pretty minimal anyway.0
