Singles Penalised

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  • groovy cleaner
    groovy cleaner Forum Participant Posts: 208
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    edited May 2016 #32

    I never said I wanted half prcie mebership but as corner steady said a discount would be ok and how the hell do my 2 dogs use the site facilities ???? if I took them in the shower there would be an uproar ,or to you all of you that don't think its fair solos
    getting a reduction ,how about opt out of getting the magazine every month if you not want it benefits everyone then 

  • Biggarmac
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    edited May 2016 #33

    As a solo motorhomer I feel that the club site fees in general are better than commercial sites as they assume unit +2 adults. 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #34

    I never said I wanted half prcie mebership but as corner steady said a discount would be ok and how the hell do my 2 dogs use the site facilities ???? if I took them in the shower there would be an uproar ,or to you all of you that don't think its fair solos
    getting a reduction ,how about opt out of getting the magazine every month if you not want it benefits everyone then 

    GC - you can opt out of receiving the magazine if you go to communication preferences on your profile. But you won't get a discounted membership! The C&CC have tried this with, I think, a discount of £5. Not sure what percentage of the membership have taken
    it up. As I said earlier, and biggermac has just confirmed I do think you get a pretty good deal from the club's pitch + person fee structure. The main thing is to get out there and enjoy yourself with the dogs. Caravanning wouldn't be the same without them,
    would it? Happy

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #35

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    Write your comments here...actually I dont as the caravan club wont insure me ,discount on a new car is worthless to me and there isn;t a cotswold clothing company in my area 

    However you still have those options, just like all other members. As far as insurance is concerned is it all aspects of their insurance that you can't access, or just for your M/H?

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2016 #36

    If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. Everything in life is unfair to some individuals or groups. Get used to it, quit moaning, enjoy the bargains when you can and just enjoy
    caravanning. Smile

    Spoken like a true yorkshireman!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #37

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    well when a couple join the other half gets free membership, so the cost is halved, sort of. I know it all comes from the same pot. I am not saying the membership fee should be half for a single person but some reduction perhaps? The same as the reduction
    for single occupancy for coucil tax. Pitch and person fee should stay the same.

    So by that arguement a family of 5 should pay more than one of 4 for membership, and 4 more than one of 3 etc. CC & C&CC membership doesn't work that way.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #38

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    well when a couple join the other half gets free membership, so the cost is halved, sort of. I know it all comes from the same pot. I am not saying the membership fee should be half for a single person but some reduction perhaps? The same as the reduction for single occupancy for coucil tax. Pitch and person fee should stay the same.

    So by that arguement a family of 5 should pay more than one of 4 for membership, and 4 more than one of 3 etc. CC & C&CC membership doesn't work that way.

    sorry trying my best but I can't follow that at all, at the moment familes of 10 pay the same membership fee as a couple, I am not saying that is fair or otherwise, I merely suggested that GC had a point with the membership fee, which was that a single person joining may/should/perhaps get a discount.I am not a single member so it doesn't bother at all and the current fee works in my favour. I do know how the membership fee works but thanks for your replySmile

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2016 #39

    im not sure about the site pricing affecting singles (person, pitch fee etc) ill mull that over....

    but ISTM that the membership fee could be half of what it is, with singles paying just the half, couples paying twice this (ie the current fee) and dependents also going free.

    this would give single members a bonus without impacting the couples or family costs.

    i certainly dont have an issue with a single member paying a half rate fee....it would mean all adults paid the same and all family dependents were included...

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #40

    im not sure about the site pricing affecting singles (person, pitch fee etc) ill mull that over....

    but ISTM that the membership fee could be half of what it is, with singles paying just the half, couples paying twice this (ie the current fee) and dependents also going free.

    this would give single members a bonus without impacting the couples or family costs.

    i certainly dont have an issue with a single member paying a half rate fee....it would mean all adults paid the same and all family dependents were included...

    not often but +0.8

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #41

    im not sure about the site pricing affecting singles (person, pitch fee etc) ill mull that over....

    but ISTM that the membership fee could be half of what it is, with singles paying just the half, couples paying twice this (ie the current fee) and dependents also going free.

    this would give single members a bonus without impacting the couples or family costs.

    i certainly dont have an issue with a single member paying a half rate fee....it would mean all adults paid the same and all family dependents were included...

    not often but +0.8

    Write your comments here...You have a point about membership rates. I would be happy to see the membership rates based on a "Per Person" basis, with a couple paying the current rate and singles paying half.  Larger family groups paying more, obviously that
    would not apply to young children.

     

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2016 #42

    I can't get insured by the club as they not insure you if you commute to work ,the reason I have small camper is being on my own I can't afford to run a car and a bigger camper ,not sure I can Tow a van ,I do use the club sites I was merely agreeing with
    th OP ,off away to tommorw I go as often as I can come rain hail or shine so when you see a litttle Romahome on site come and say Hi Smile

  • AndyNYorks
    AndyNYorks Forum Participant Posts: 144
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    edited May 2016 #43

    If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. Everything in life is unfair to some individuals or groups. Get used to it, quit moaning, enjoy the bargains when you can and just enjoy
    caravanning. Smile

    Spoken like a true yorkshireman!

    But I was born in Kent. Laughing

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited May 2016 #44

    Does anyone else feel that singles are penalised when it comes to deals?  The Club keeps saying that £14 per night is a grand deal for 2 adults and up to 4 children.  True - it is  But for singles it is NOT.  There are over 60,000 of us who do not get the
    same benefits as families or couples.  Despite my efforts nobody seems to care.  If there are good deals on offer then they should be open to ALL members even if they are lone travellers.  Does anyone else feel the same?

    We are a couple so arnt we penalised as well?

    Normal cc price is per pitch then pay per person as has been said, don't see how that's unfair

    Kev

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2016 #45

    As I see it and posted on the other thread it is generally not the singles who are prejudiced but the rest of us. They pay one pitch fee and one member fee. We pay that plus far more than the cost to the club for the additional occupants so the more of you
    in the caravan or motorhome the more you subsidise those with less.

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2016 #46

    Does anyone else feel that singles are penalised when it comes to deals?  The Club keeps saying that £14 per night is a grand deal for 2 adults and up to 4 children.  True - it is  But for singles it is NOT.  There are over 60,000 of us who do not get the
    same benefits as families or couples.  Despite my efforts nobody seems to care.  If there are good deals on offer then they should be open to ALL members even if they are lone travellers.  Does anyone else feel the same?

    I am afraid I don't really understand this OP. Special offers are just what they say,  and as with all special offers come with T&C's, which are more advantageous to some groups than others. In my opinion singles already get a fair deal from the CC  due
    to its pricing policy. A lot of commercial sites charge per pitch, which would mean a single would pay the same as a family. At all but a few, the CC charges for pitch then each occupant. This would mean a single paying £6.80 to £10.20 less than a couple for
    the same pitch at Chatsworth. I would call that a fair deal.

  • ChefJim
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    edited May 2016 #47

    Does anyone else feel that singles are penalised when it comes to deals?  The Club keeps saying that £14 per night is a grand deal for 2 adults and up to 4 children.  True - it is  But for singles it is NOT.  There are over 60,000 of us who do not get the
    same benefits as families or couples.  Despite my efforts nobody seems to care.  If there are good deals on offer then they should be open to ALL members even if they are lone travellers.  Does anyone else feel the same?

    I am afraid I don't really understand this OP. Special offers are just what they say,  and as with all special offers come with T&C's, which are more advantageous to some groups than others. In my opinion singles already get a fair deal from the CC  due
    to its pricing policy. A lot of commercial sites charge per pitch, which would mean a single would pay the same as a family. At all but a few, the CC charges for pitch then each occupant. This would mean a single paying £6.80 to £10.20 less than a couple for
    the same pitch at Chatsworth. I would call that a fair deal.

    Write your comments here...it might be a fair deal but under the clubs idea of making more money to reinvest what excuse would they make when they see a family of 4 wanted a pitch because it would seem as I've already pointed out a single may be bumped in
    favour of a family. That fact has come direct from the club via Rochelle.

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2016 #48

    The idea that a single was bumped for a family is simply not a fact but a possibility based on possible criteria for dealing with weather damage to pitches. You will not lose your pitch for a larger family in normal circumstances if indeed it happened at
    all.

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited May 2016 #49

    The idea that a single was bumped for a family is simply not a fact but a possibility based on possible criteria for dealing with weather damage to pitches. You will not lose your pitch for a larger family in normal circumstances if indeed it happened at
    all.

    Well Vivien certainly lost her booking and the club reply certainly implied that they had bumped her for a more lucrative opportunity.  Of course the club could clarify officially on here, but I doubt they will, too busy cleaning the egg off their faces.

  • michelless1957
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    families are penalised more. they can only go at weekends and school holidays when the prices are sky high. then you add in the extra costs on site but you are still only alloed to use the same amount of pitch area. even if you put up a pup tent you are
    still on one pitch so why should you pay more if you have children on the pitch with you.  very unfair if they are bumping bookings for longer ones though

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2016 #51

    Isn't having a family a lifestyle choice? With acceptance of everything our society provides and expects as part of the deal? 

    Every sector of the holiday industry now jumps on the bandwagon of peak charging during school holiday periods, but the CC does offer at least a few deals, such as kids for £1 and fixed price pitches regardless of how many are crammed into a caravan/MH/awning/pup
    tent, albeit not across the board.

    Single travellers do get a somewhat rough deal from holiday providers, single supplements are notorious across a lot of holidays. Again, CC don't seem as bad as most when providing for most category of touring unit, but you have to shop around for deals.

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2016 #52

    families are penalised more. they can only go at weekends and school holidays when the prices are sky high. then you add in the extra costs on site but you are still only alloed to use the same amount of pitch area. even if you put up a pup tent you are
    still on one pitch so why should you pay more if you have children on the pitch with you.  very unfair if they are bumping bookings for longer ones though

     

    It is at the end of the day a lifestyle choice. Families do not pay any more for the pitch than a single. The extra charge is per person and in this the CC is reasonably fair towards families with some sites for a pound and all defining a child as up to
    17.  Having said this when we had kids, the last place we would have wanted to go is a CC type site. A field with a big area for charging about and playing ball games / flying kites made for a much more relaxing holiday and cost a fraction of a CC type site.

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #53

    families are penalised more. they can only go at weekends and school holidays when the prices are sky high. then you add in the extra costs on site but you are still only alloed to use the same amount of pitch area. even if you put up a pup tent you are still on one pitch so why should you pay more if you have children on the pitch with you.  very unfair if they are bumping bookings for longer ones though

     

    Write your comments here...That's not always the case -- As of a high court ruling today, there is are changes in the rules allowing you to take your child/children out of school during term time, to take advantage of off-peak rates. ----  See BBC news : sorry cannot post the link from this tablet. 

    K

     

  • michelless1957
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    edited May 2016 #54

    anything can be called a lifestyle choice but we still get the same pitch for a family of 6 and pay a lot more for the same space where we use the same amount of electric as well to heat one van. if we were a single it would be one pitch fee and one person
    and it would use the same electric and tv but we pay a lot more for nothing extra. 

    being single is a lifestyle choice too even if you dont choose to get that way you choose to stay that way

     

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2016 #55

    families are penalised more. they can only go at weekends and school holidays when the prices are sky high. then you add in the extra costs on site but you are still only alloed to use the same amount of pitch area. even if you put up a
    pup tent you are still on one pitch so why should you pay more if you have children on the pitch with you.  very unfair if they are bumping bookings for longer ones though

     

    Write your comments here...That's not always the case -- As of a high court ruling today, there is are changes in the rules allowing you to take your child/children out of school during term time, to take advantage of off-peak rates. ----  See BBC news :
    sorry cannot post the link from this tablet. 

    K

     

    Not sure that the position is that clear. It seems it may only apply where the child has an exemplary record and the law may be changed to rectify the problem. Glad its not our problem in Scotland though.

  • DEBSC
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    edited May 2016 #56

    Hmmmm not sure he has done anyone any favours as now I'm sure the law will be changed to take out this small loophole. Not just Scotland, if your child is in private education then you won't be fined either, so that will included most of the families of
    MPs

  • Randomcamper
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     but we still get the same pitch for a family of 6 and pay a lot more for the same space where we use the same amount of electric as well to heat one van. if we were a single it would be one pitch fee and one person and it would use the same electric and
    tv but we pay a lot more for nothing extra. 

     

    .     Six of you using the shower block........??

  • Navigateur
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    we still get the same pitch for a family of 6 

    I understand there is a club rule that prevents one member hiring the use of two pitches at the same time, but for a few pounds a family of six could have two memberships in different names and hire the use of two pitches to give themselves more room. Just
    have to take a chance on two adjacent pitches being available on arrival though.

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited May 2016 #59

    but for a few pounds a family of six could have two memberships in different names and hire the use of two pitches to give themselves more room

    Surely they would have to have two caravans or a MH and a caravan to be able to do this?

  • mike132
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    How offensive of Michellesse to say that being bereaved is a lifestlye choice.  Hope you do not have to experience it.

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2016 #61

    How offensive of Michellesse to say that being bereaved is a lifestlye choice.  Hope you do not have to experience it.

    not quite sure it was stated quite like that Mike, was it?

    i certainly didnt consider it referred to bereavement.

    i actually assumed (possibly wrongly) that it was to do with getting divorced?

    however, back to the subject in hand....

    the six people on a single pitch will be paying far, far, far less per person than a single would.....who has to stump up the whole pitch fee on their own and a per person fee.....which will also be more than tne kids fees within that family example.....some
    of which may be only charged £1.