Singles Penalised

Tootsie16
Tootsie16 Forum Participant Posts: 11
edited May 2016 in Club Membership #1

Does anyone else feel that singles are penalised when it comes to deals?  The Club keeps saying that £14 per night is a grand deal for 2 adults and up to 4 children.  True - it is  But for singles it is NOT.  There are over 60,000 of us who do not get the
same benefits as families or couples.  Despite my efforts nobody seems to care.  If there are good deals on offer then they should be open to ALL members even if they are lone travellers.  Does anyone else feel the same?

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  • Bugs
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    edited May 2016 #2

    Hello Tootsie

    Have you contacted the club to raise your concerns with them? Are you saying 60,000 of our members are singles?

    I'll flag up your post with the Community Manager.

    Cheers

    Bugs

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2016 #3

    Please take a closer look at the prices Tootsie. My OH is going to enjoy a full facility site on his own for just £9.50 a night, in July! All you have to do is take a good long look at the prices, not easy I admit given the dozens of permutations, but there
    are some absolute bargains if you can be bothered to look for them! Exeter Racecourse site for those that are wondering, great location for him and dogs. Cycling in Haldon Forest and on Dartmoor, close to some nice beaches, great city in Exeter, easy access
    to main routes. Not quite sure how much cheaper you would want, but I call that a real bargain! And with toilets, showers, laundry etc....

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2016 #4

    oh yes Tootsie ,I agree and I have raised my concerns with the club ,I not get discounts on anything as the club wont insure my camper ,I look at prices and some sites are pricey at peak times Exeter might be cheap but I can't drive that far we not get kids
    go for 1p ,looking at the things you can get discounts with there is nothing suitable for me 

     

  • moulesy
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    I have some sympathy with you, tootsie, although in fairness I think the club offers solo travellers a pretty good deal compared to some other organisations because of its "pitch + person" pricing structure. But I can see that the statement you gave in your
    OP does come across as a bit insensitive. As TtDA says, there are some good deals out there but you do have to look them out. Have you tried any CLs? They can also offer some economical rates and are one of the main reasons many of us are club members.

    Hope you find some good deals! Happy

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #6

    I'm sorry you both feel penalised, but help me to understand how? you pay a pitch fee and then a single adult fee? Is that correct? What would you like to pay?

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2016 #7

    I don't understang why the pitch fee does not include one adult. How else might the caravan or motorhome get to the site without the intervention of at least one adult?  And it can't be to do with leaving unoccupied overnight as fees are still payable.

  • katieb
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    edited May 2016 #8

    I don't understang why the pitch fee does not include one adult. How else might the caravan or motorhome get to the site without the intervention of at least one adult?  And it can't be to do with leaving unoccupied overnight as fees are still payable.

     

    Stop being so logical!

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2016 #9

    So a pitch and one would be more expensive than both combined?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2016 #10

    If Exeter is too far, try Hebden Bridge!  £10.60, not including any midweek discount. 

    All you have to do is search the sites, bargains are out there!

  • 1Tracey1
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    edited May 2016 #11

    If the CC charges per person, then by that logic it is also discriminating against couples without children.  Personally, I don't think this is the case.  Whilst the fees themselves are a seperate issue (there are another couple of threads on this so not going to comment further), in my opinon that pricing policy is fair to singles and couples and in  my opinon, families should not really have to pay for their children (and I don't have children or grandchildren).

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited May 2016 #12

    families should not really have to pay for their children

    I would disagree - if any person is paying for services used - eg electricity, water, waste, cleaning costs etc then children do need to be paid for, otherwise the price for adults will have to go up to cover all the costs.  This would be unfair on those
    who caravan without children.

    As for being unfair to singles I can see why the OP feels this - the pitch fee is proportionately less if divided between say 4 people with each paying perhaps their person fee plus £2, whereas a single will pay their person fee plus £8 for a pitch. Their
    use/wear and tear on the pitch should be less than if 4 were occupying it so yes, it is illogical.

  • ChefJim
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    Please take a closer look at the prices Tootsie. My OH is going to enjoy a full facility site on his own for just £9.50 a night, in July! All you have to do is take a good long look at the prices, not easy I admit given the dozens of permutations, but there
    are some absolute bargains if you can be bothered to look for them! Exeter Racecourse site for those that are wondering, great location for him and dogs. Cycling in Haldon Forest and on Dartmoor, close to some nice beaches, great city in Exeter, easy access
    to main routes. Not quite sure how much cheaper you would want, but I call that a real bargain! And with toilets, showers, laundry etc....

    Write your comments here...it's only a bargain if its not bumped off for being a single booking and not leaving 3 midweek days which might or might not be resold, ( according to Rochelle)

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited May 2016 #14

    Write your comments here...it's only a bargain if its not bumped off for being a single booking and not leaving 3 midweek days which might or might not be resold, ( according to Rochelle)

    Exactly - I read that too and decided that meant that all bookings were not equal - those who have short bookings are definitely seen as inferior in the ''greater good'' so if its a one night or two night booking for a solo be very afraid - the club might
    be able to sell that pitch to some folk on here who have huge occupancy and make a much better profit.  Watch out for that email.........

  • Surfer
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    edited May 2016 #15

    Does anyone else feel that singles are penalised when it comes to deals?  The Club keeps saying that £14 per night is a grand deal for 2 adults and up to 4 children.  True - it is  But for singles it is NOT.  There are over 60,000 of us who do not get the
    same benefits as families or couples.  Despite my efforts nobody seems to care.  If there are good deals on offer then they should be open to ALL members even if they are lone travellers.  Does anyone else feel the same?

    Whether a single or a couple you probably use the same amount of electric with the only savings being perhaps water.  After all whether there is one or two people in the caravan you would use the same number of electric bulbs, fridge etc. so why should a
    couple be penalised if a single gets a discount?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2016 #16

    Write your comments here...it's only a bargain if its not bumped off for being a single booking and not leaving 3 midweek days which might or might not be resold, ( according to Rochelle)

    Exactly - I read that too and decided that meant that all bookings were not equal - those who have short bookings are definitely seen as inferior in the ''greater good'' so if its a one night or two night booking for a solo be very afraid - the club might
    be able to sell that pitch to some folk on here who have huge occupancy and make a much better profit.  Watch out for that email.........

    All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others ........ Sealed

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #17

    I have some sympathy with you, tootsie, although in fairness I think the club offers solo travellers a pretty good deal compared to some other organisations because of its "pitch + person" pricing structure. But I can see that the statement you gave in your
    OP does come across as a bit insensitive. As TtDA says, there are some good deals out there but you do have to look them out. Have you tried any CLs? They can also offer some economical rates and are one of the main reasons many of us are club members.

    Hope you find some good deals! Happy

    I would think that, out of peak period, a single person is often better off on a club site than a CL, as the latter charges a set price regardless of the number in the van.

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #18

    I have some sympathy with you, tootsie, although in fairness I think the club offers solo travellers a pretty good deal compared to some other organisations because of its "pitch + person" pricing structure. But I can see that the statement you gave in your OP does come across as a bit insensitive. As TtDA says, there are some good deals out there but you do have to look them out. Have you tried any CLs? They can also offer some economical rates and are one of the main reasons many of us are club members.

    Hope you find some good deals! Happy

    I would think that, out of peak period, a single person is often better off on a club site than a CL, as the latter charges a set price regardless of the number in the van.

    Write your comments here...OK if a person visits a CC site and the charges are for example  £6.00 site fee and £6.00 per person., A couple will pay £18 per night. A single will pay £12.00 per night. Perhaps I am missing something, but I fail to see see how singles are being penalised. I seems perfectly fair to me. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #19

    I have some sympathy with you, tootsie, although in fairness I think the club offers solo travellers a pretty good deal compared to some other organisations because of its "pitch + person" pricing structure. But I can see that the statement you gave in your
    OP does come across as a bit insensitive. As TtDA says, there are some good deals out there but you do have to look them out. Have you tried any CLs? They can also offer some economical rates and are one of the main reasons many of us are club members.

    Hope you find some good deals! Happy

    I would think that, out of peak period, a single person is often better off on a club site than a CL, as the latter charges a set price regardless of the number in the van.

    Write your comments here...OK if a person visits a CC site and the charges are for example  £6.00 site fee and £6.00 per person., A couple will pay £18 per night. A single will pay £12.00 per night. Perhaps I am missing something, but I fail to see see how
    singles are being penalised. I seems perfectly fair to me. 

    I think so too, which is why I asked what price they thought they should pay.

  • eiflow
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    edited May 2016 #20

    I caravan solo and think cc sites offer good value especially when compared with most cls. Usually more facilities and sometimes better quality at a similar or lower price.?

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2016 #21

    If Exeter is too far, try Hebden Bridge!  £10.60, not including any midweek discount. 

    All you have to do is search the sites, bargains are out there!

    Write your comments here...been last weekend ,its cheap as its not got a toilet block 

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2016 #22

    the reason I joined the club is so I pay pitch fee + adult night rate ,but think the membership fee should be slightly less for a single person or they could do a no magazine opt out for less and as someone else has said I use less water than a family or
    even a cpl I only have a tiny camper so it only takes up half a pitch hence why folk traipse through my pitch on their way to the toilet block 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #23

    you may have a point with the membership fee

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #24

    I have some sympathy with you, tootsie, although in fairness I think the club offers solo travellers a pretty good deal compared to some other organisations because of its "pitch + person" pricing structure. But I can see that the statement you gave in your
    OP does come across as a bit insensitive. As TtDA says, there are some good deals out there but you do have to look them out. Have you tried any CLs? They can also offer some economical rates and are one of the main reasons many of us are club members.

    Hope you find some good deals! Happy

    I would think that, out of peak period, a single person is often better off on a club site than a CL, as the latter charges a set price regardless of the number in the van.

    Write your comments here...OK if a person visits a CC site and the charges are for example  £6.00 site fee and £6.00 per person., A couple will pay £18 per night. A single will pay £12.00 per night. Perhaps I am missing something, but I fail to see see how
    singles are being penalised. I seems perfectly fair to me. 

    Agree K. Just what I said, without the details. 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #25

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2016 #26

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    Write your comments here...actually I dont as the caravan club wont insure me ,discount on a new car is worthless to me and there isn;t a cotswold clothing company in my area 

  • 1Tracey1
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    edited May 2016 #27

    Whether you use things or not, you still have access to them....the same as other members.  Everyone has things which will be positive for them being part of the club and things which will make no difference to them whatsoever.  I guess everyone has to make
    a decision on whether the CC is of benefit to them or not and on joining you accept the conditions or look to change them by joining commitees etc.

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #28

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    Write your comments here...actually I dont as the caravan club wont insure me ,discount on a new car is worthless to me and there isn;t a cotswold clothing company in my area 

    Write your comments here...So what do you think is fair for you half price membership half price  pitch fee's  you say you only have a small camper that is your choice you still use all the site facilities and the same offers that everyone else is offered
    plus two dogs do they not use on site facilities. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #29

    you may have a point with the membership fee

    Why? GC has the same access to all the same facilities such as insurance etc as any other member.

    well when a couple join the other half gets free membership, so the cost is halved, sort of. I know it all comes from the same pot. I am not saying the membership fee should be half for a single person but some reduction perhaps? The same as the reduction for single occupancy for coucil tax. Pitch and person fee should stay the same.

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2016 #30

    I think the OP is confusing the issue. The £14 a night is an effort to fill underused sites and must be borderline profitable if at all. In practice adding more people to the unit does not increase costs a great deal so the discount for solo or couples would
    be minimal. 

    I do agree the base price could be for the unit and one person but that is a different matter.

  • AndyNYorks
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    edited May 2016 #31

    If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. If you give a discount to singles, it is unfair to couples. Everything in life is unfair to some individuals or groups. Get used to it, quit moaning, enjoy the bargains when you can and just enjoy
    caravanning. Smile