New is X-trail 2017
We are contented owners of a Qashqai 4X4 automatic but we have a larger caravan on order and would prefer a larger car. For some time we have been considering an X-trail to replace the Qashqai but for some reason Nissan do not offer the auto version with
four wheel drive. For us a car with manual transmission is not an option and living where we do we cannot manage life without a 4X4. This afternoon I called in to our local Nissan dealer and was given the good news that Nissan are bringing out a new X-trail
next year with a much needed larger engine and the hope is that they will have had the sense to include the 4X4 option with automatic transmission. We have really liked the Qashqai as a tow car and for solo driving so we are hopeful for next year. I wonder
how other people have got on with the X-trail.
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The used X Trail was recently reviewed by Practical Caravan and got a very good rating and the owners interviewed loved it as a tow car. Having said that the car coming out is I believe an entirely new model so the previous cars performance might not be
that good a guide. It does look interesting though as it does appear it will have a decent sized engine.0 -
The used X Trail was recently reviewed by Practical Caravan and got a very good rating and the owners interviewed loved it as a tow car. Having said that the car coming out is I believe an entirely new model so the previous cars performance might not be
that good a guide. It does look interesting though as it does appear it will have a decent sized engine.Write your comments here...The dealer told me today that the new one is not an entirely new model as the only change is the larger engine. On the other hand he did not know that it is already available to order as Nissan has subsequently informed me. Communication
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That is not what I have been told. The information I was given is that it is a 2 litre engine with 177 PS power output. The print is so small to read on the brochure that I am having difficulty in making out the text so I can only go by what I have been
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2017 X Trail info
https://carleasingmadesimple.com/data/nissan/x-trail/new-model/
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Nice one I'll dig a little deeper into the 2 litre, I might be interested.
Surely not after having a proper Auto?
Ah CVT! I know things have moved on from my Raleigh Supermatic of years ago, but all I can remember is every time I opened the throttle it was max revs until speed was reached. I would certainly have to drive one to see what has changed as I'm a torque converter
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I like torque coverters too and I can remember the awful Daf car with cvt in the 60's or 70's. Surely the technology has moved on by now. There must be a reason for the manufacturers to fit them. I have just remembered there was a terrible one in a Volvo
440 as late as the 80's. I had one for a day as courtesy car and it was frightful. I spoke to our Nissan dealer again this morning to give him all the information which Nissan had failed to give him. Based on what I told him he hopes for a demonstrator in
January so I will then find out for myself what the cvt is like. The 1650 towing limit is plenty for us with our new 2 berth on order.0 -
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6tZ6NNnY9M]CVT[/url] Should be something like this?
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CVT Should be something like this?
I would hope it's better than that, it looks like another variation on a DAF Variomatic. I've come across various incarnations of 'variators' at work .... even the rev & rip scooter I once had was similar, and IMHO they're cr4p and largely replaced by AC
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I found a road test for the current Qashqai auto with the CVT. Appparently Nissan have built in artificial steps in the systme so that it drives in the same way as a car with a torque converter transmission. The writier of the review said it is brilliant.
Unfortunately I have no ide how to do links so I cannot add a link to the article.0 -
Stepped CVT in its many forms is nothing new and many manufacturers have had variants in the past and still do. However these systems, although giving a more acceptable driving experience (to some) than conventional CVT, do away with some of the advantage
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This is all very interesting but I need to bear in mind that the transmission is just one part of the equation in choice of vehicle. I am currently looking for the following. 1. Increased luggage capacity. 2. Increased kerb weight. 3. Sufficient power.
And overall, for myself and my wife, auto and 4x4 are essentials. Ultimately the way in which the auto functions is not a deal breaker.0 -
That's it, just keep an open mind and test drive it. I did notice that the towing weight is greatly reduced if CVT is chosen over the 'manual' although still acceptable, makes me wonder if it's a little fragile whereas my torque converter auto is on par with the manual version.
At the end of the day it's another car to consider.
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The other car I had looked at is a Tiguan with DSG but it has less capacity and Nissan do 15% discount for CC members. Our old bodies find many cars uncomfortable but the Nissan has good seats. I did sit in a Mitsubishi Outlander and my back was awful
after a few moments. The other I like is a Volvo XC60 but that is more money than the Nissan.0 -
This is all very interesting but I need to bear in mind that the transmission is just one part of the equation in choice of vehicle. I am currently looking for the following. 1. Increased luggage capacity. 2. Increased kerb weight. 3. Sufficient power.
And overall, for myself and my wife, auto and 4x4 are essentials. Ultimately the way in which the auto functions is not a deal breaker.Sounds like you are looking for my car.
175ps with a peak torque of 420 nm, 310 pound feet. Six speed TC auto, with a tow limit of 2000kg.
Kerbweight for my model is 1703kg 175 sport nav AWD auto.
New Tig is interesting in that they do a 240 ps petrol with good torque, it its overall shorter with a shorter wheel base.
Auto is 7 speed DSG but the price when i "built" one to my CX-5 spec was just under £40K before any discount.
Its a new car so i wouldn't at this stage expect a lot of discount, while last NOV i paid £27K for my car, its now due to be replaced late next year so i wouldnt expect to be paying £27K if i was still in the market.
I tow 1565kg at present and have ordered a 1636 kg caravan next, upgraded to 1700kg.
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This is all very interesting but I need to bear in mind that the transmission is just one part of the equation in choice of vehicle. I am currently looking for the following. 1. Increased luggage capacity. 2. Increased kerb weight. 3. Sufficient power.
And overall, for myself and my wife, auto and 4x4 are essentials. Ultimately the way in which the auto functions is not a deal breaker.Sounds like you are looking for my car.
175ps with a peak torque of 420 nm, 310 pound feet. Six speed TC auto, with a tow limit of 2000kg.
Kerbweight for my model is 1703kg 175 sport nav AWD auto.
New Tig is interesting in that they do a 240 ps petrol with good torque, it its overall shorter with a shorter wheel base.
Auto is 7 speed DSG but the price when i "built" one to my CX-5 spec was just under £40K before any discount.
Its a new car so i wouldn't at this stage expect a lot of discount, while last NOV i paid £27K for my car, its now due to be replaced late next year so i wouldnt expect to be paying £27K if i was still in the market.
I tow 1565kg at present and have ordered a 1636 kg caravan next, upgraded to 1700kg.
Write your comments here...Do I take it from your name that your car is an X-Trail? If so which model and year. I would love to know please.
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Sorry i had a call for dinner so couldn't read my own post.
Its a Mazda CX-5, i also forgot to mention its only got a 88kg nose weight limit.
1703 kg is the KW but i have also fitted a 27 kg full sized wheel and a 21kg towbar. And i don't intend to load the caravan to 1700kg, infact the dealer says he will give me the sticker to use or not.
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