Old towbar with only one socket

Flutel
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edited September 2016 in Towcars & Towing #1

I'm looking at a Skoda Octavia 2007/8 towcar to buy.  It has a detachable tow bar which looks like it has been used very little (from towball wear).  However, it has only one socket and it's certainly not a new 13 pin one!

Is it easy/cost effective to alter this by adding another plug (I assume to charge the fridge)? Or would I just need to get another one put on?

 

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #2

    What's on the caravan? Make towcar & caravan match Laughing

  • Flutel
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    edited September 2016 #3

    There's one 13 pin socket.  Otherwise the car and the van are a good match.

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #4

    I would probably have the towbar electrics upgraded. However, to be honest, I never have the fridge on when towing, the 'van is always on EHU and so whether the battery charges or not during towing is irrelevant. I do have the trailer control feature on
    the 'van so would upgrade for that purpose.

  • DSB
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    edited September 2016 #5

    I'd get a 13 pin socket put on the car.

    David 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #6

    There's one 13 pin socket.  Otherwise the car and the van are a good match.

    ...if the caravan has a 13 pin plug then get the car converted to a 13 pin socket ..... far superior to the 12N & 12S regardless of the fridge supply and battery charging

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #7

    I'm not clear what is being suggested here. Is it:-

    A) Fit full 13 pin wiring to the car, or

    B) Stick a 13 pin socket on the end of the existing 7 pin wiring?

    While both will "work" I would not want the later on my vehicle.

  • Flutel
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    edited September 2016 #8

    So - Can I still retain the (detatchable) towbar that comes with the car and just get the old socket taken off and a new 13 pin socket fitted?

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2016 #9

    So - Can I still retain the (detatchable) towbar that comes with the car and just get the old socket taken off and a new 13 pin socket fitted?

     The tow bar should be fine but the electrics on the car to convert to 13pin will need a reputable towbar profesional to alter, i would think

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2016 #10

    Yes, and have it done professionally so that all electrical systems work. 

    Edit. JVB you beat me to it - must learn to type more quickly. 

  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #11

    It will probably cost less than £150 to have it fully (re)-wired upto a 13 pin socket and whilst your are at it might as well have all the pins wired such as fridge, charging etc. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #12

    It cost me £100 to have my car's 12N converted to a 13 pin socket including the fridge and charging relay and its associated wiring.

  • Woody19
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    edited September 2016 #13

    Take care with the Octavia as some models have a surprisingly light noseweight limit.

    If it has the 2L 140bhp CR TDi engine then it is a good idea to get the TSP activated by the installer. On my Passat the TSP becoming active when it detects the trailer is connected is two of the lights on the dials: without TSP active they go out together
    but when it is active one of them stays on 2 seconds longer. I suspect your Octy will be the same.

  • Flutel
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    edited September 2016 #14

    TSP???

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #15

    Trailer stability program (From Telegraph)


    This is standard with a factory-fitted towbar on many VWs, including the Golf, Touran, Golf Plus and Passat. The wiring system confirms the trailer/caravan is present and the Electronic Stability Program (ESP) senses if it has started to weave. When the
    oscillations reach a critical level, the ESP will pulse the front brakes on the opposite side to which the trailer is swinging, to reduce the effect. The bigger the weave, the bigger the braking effect; to prevent the driver making things worse, engine torque
    is also reduced. There was some debate about the effectiveness of this sort of device when it was introduced on the Vauxhall Astra a few years ago. On VW's Ehra-Lessien test track, it was very effective indeed, although one journalist managed to spin car and
    caravan by severely provoking it at high speed.


  • Flutel
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    edited September 2016 #16

    Smile Ah, Thanks...Gotta remember to ask the socket installer to activate it!

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #17

     to prevent the driver making things worse, engine torque is also reduced.


    That is not something I would see as an advantage.