MPG When Towing

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2016 #32

    All fuel economy figures depend, of course, on the speed of progress. Some will hustle along more than others with a commensurate drop in economy

  • volvoman9
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    edited September 2016 #33

    The best i can hope for is the low twenties but thats a 2.9 ltr twin turbo 6 cyl petrol 4x4 towing a 1750kg t/a van.

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  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #34

    Unless all the figures being claimed are measured brim to brim or similar, and using the same fuel, driver, route, weather etc they are otherwise fairly meaningless. Computer read out fugures are also not accurate. There are simply too many variables, tyre
    rolling resistance, fuel quality, engjne and transmission oil viscosity, weather conditions, use of ancillaries etc etc etc. I get an average of 44mpg solo with my passat alltrack dsg which includes some town commuting. Towing a 1600kg t/a van so far on our
    Austrian trip has given brim to brim figures of between 28 and 25mpg.     

  • Wildwood
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    edited September 2016 #35

    I have checked the cars consunption against the computer. Until I changed the front tyres it was reading a couple of mpg high. Having got new tyres which increased the diameter I checked again and they are now as accurate as brimming. Even the computers figures depend on tyres.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #36

     ..... Computer read out fugures are also not accurate.  .....     

    They might not be especially accurate, but they give a good comparison of various journies, and as long as it's always inaccurate by the same amount, you're laughing. Cool I
    did a few tanks of brim to brim mpg vs the trip on my R Class when I first got it, and they were similar enough for me to use the trip as a general guide. My Smarts don't have a trip, but know that a tank will do around 300 miles which is high 40s mpg

  • DSB
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    edited September 2016 #37

    I always work my mileage out from when I fill up the car (right to the top).  I use a phone app to record mileage - Fill Up (Fuel Log).  There are a number of apps that do the same sort of thing.

    David 

  • JohnM20
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    edited September 2016 #38

    With my 180bhp Mondeo I get an average of about 48mpg solo on all types of roads and between 27 and 31 towing 1300kg, depending very much on road type and weather conditions, particularly the wind direction. The mpg is as indicated by the car's computer
    which, as we all know, always show on the high side. This, I guess, is because the speedo will always show a faster speed than is actual and all this type of information is interlinked so mpg's and average speeds etc will always be out by the same percentage
    as the speed.

  • paul56
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    edited September 2016 #39

    I'm willing to bet that VWs get loads and loads and loads of miles to the gallon according to the trip computer. 

    I never check the mpg while towing with our 180 bhp Kuga but now at 18k miles it's averaging just a shade over 37mpg according to the computer - I can live with that. 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2016 #40

    After 20K miles my Kuga has averaged out at a whisker over 40mpg on mixed solo/towing.

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2016 #41

    2013 Freelander 2 190bhp, about 37mpg solo and 27mpg towing 1350kg single axle.

  • petertr
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    edited September 2016 #42

    I get about 50mpg on a long run in my Seat Exeo, and it drops to about 28mpg when towing a 1400kg 4 berth.

    It was worse, in both respects, before it was remapped from 142 to 192Bhp

  • ALANkW
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    edited September 2016 #43

    I wouldnt believe what the computer says  .Full tank to full tank is the closest you will get

    My trip towing says 25mpg reality 19mpg  Hyundai santa fe 195bhp towing 1500kg from weston s mare to padstow 

  • Wildwood
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    edited September 2016 #44

    Our Mazda is as accurate as checking against tankfulls will allow. Did it with three consecutive fills and it was still within one mpg. This was after fitting new front tyres as before that it was reading a bit high.

  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #45

    The computer read out on my Passat is more accurate when towing than soLo. On our recent trip to Austria the brim to brim figures were within 1mpg of the computer however the solo figures are adrift. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #46

    Does the mpg matter? I'd have thought that the ability to safely tow your caravan was more important than a few more miles to a tank.

  • volvoman9
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    edited September 2016 #47

    Does the mpg matter? I'd have thought that the ability to safely tow your caravan was more important than a few more miles to a tank.

    I have to agree MM for me its always been about haveing a towcar that was more than capable of doing the job regardless of the mpg..I,ve always said that if you want good mpg then dont tow a caravan full stop.Putting a caravan on the back of any car makes a nonsense of any fuel figures issued by the manufacturer which in many cases are pure fantasy anyway.

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  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #49

    MM, i generally agree and if solo mileage is low a few mpg makes b8gger all saving. From reading numerous posts over the years In practice the fuel usage or economy for most when towing is in the range 22-28mpg almost irrespective of car/van combination.
    I have said many times that changing a car just to reduce fuel costs is a waste of money UNLESS there are other significant reasons to do so. However for those of us like me who commute 300 miles every week, at some point economy has to be considered otherwise
    i would use my sons 15mpg petrol RR Sport...... and that is solo! 

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #50

    How do you rate that All Track you have. Did you need a special tow bar to cope with the higher ride height over the standard model?

    Cheers.

  • ClubMemberF125896FF9
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    edited September 2016 #51

    On our trip to Spain this year. Kia Sedona 2.9 cr, towing 1400 van. Didn't bother checking mpg, just how far to next garage.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2016 #52

    I towed down Autoroute 7 the other day from Lyon to Avignon - at 70 mph most of the way and against a wind coming up from Africa, the fuel needle fell so fast I thought the tank must have sprung a leak.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #53

    I towed down Autoroute 7 the other day from Lyon to Avignon - at 70 mph most of the way and against a wind coming up from Africa, the fuel needle fell so fast I thought the tank must have sprung a leak.

    I thought that years ago when we went to Devon (or Cornwall Embarassed) towing our Lunar Delata with a 3.0 Omega. the weather was horrible
    & we averaged 16.6mpg! Surprised

  • paul56
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    edited September 2016 #54

    We visited North York Moors site, Whitby a couple of weeks ago - going took 1/4 of a tank of diesel but the return journey was straight into the wind - journey only took an extra 10 mins but around 1/3 of the tank had disappeared. I never bother to check
    mpg. Choose to tow 1450kg and there are consequences.

  • Wildwood
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    edited September 2016 #55

    I agree the wind is a major factor on fuel consumption. On a trip down to Chester Fairoaks into a strong wind we recorded 25 mpg. Comi

    ng back with a tailwind about the same we got 26.

  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #56

    I do like much about the Alltrack however the towbar was already fitted - factory spec removable. It tows well and flies up the hills with 1.6 tonnes of van behind it however i still miss the Audi quality, driving dynamics and sound of the Bose and V6! Its
    functional but an enthusiastic drivers car it aint.  It is unlikely to be a keeper - i am changing jobs soon and the new job gives me access to a new Merc every 12 months at very advantagous finance rates so will probably be selling it in a few months.

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #57

    Thanks flatcoat. 

    Anybody got the bi turbo? 

  • Mr H
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    edited September 2016 #58

    Recently on a trip to the Dordogne we averaged 32 in our Hyundai Tucson 2.0 diesel (Over 1000 miles). Normally I average 45 when not towing.

  • flatcoat
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    edited September 2016 #59

    Ah, you are talking about the latest version! i imagine that is a great  car and understand the driving dynamics are much better and closer to Mondeo standards. However I priced one up with leather and other bells/whistles and it was well into Q5/Discovery
    Sport territory so I doubt VW will sell many. 

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #60

    It is indeed a similar price.

    Just looking at some alternatives to the Disco Sport. If they kept the priceof the DS the same but stuck the 3 lit motor in it I wouldn't even be looking elsewhere as I have a Freelander now and have been delighted with it. The price of the DS is making me look at alternatives. Even the Porsche Macan is in similar price territory as the DS!

    Not ready to change yet but just beginning to do a bit of research.

    Thanks for your help.

  • ElliesFolks
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    edited November 2016 #61

    2006 Citroen Xsara Picasso 1.6HDi 92bhp towing an old Lunar Sunbeam @ around 900kg.

    My average mpg is between 62 - 65 without the shed on the back. On a recent trip to Devon (180 miles each way) with the caravan I had 32.8 going down (cruise control set at 62) and 38 coming back (cruise control set at 59).

    It will be interesting to see what my new car (Korando 2.2 LE) will do.